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No PS3 pricecut for Christmas, says Sony
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article published on 13 October, 2008
Sony Computer Entertainment president Kaz Hirai has restated that hopeful gamers will not see a PlayStation 3 price cut this year and that the console is a "very good value proposition".
"The answer is yes, if you're asking, 'Are these the prices we're going with this Christmas?'" Hirai added. "When you really compare apples to apples, then I think we have a very good value proposition."
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13. October 2008 @ 12:15 |
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Who even cares. Its even more cheaper to purchase a PS3 than a blu-ray player.
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13. October 2008 @ 12:33 |
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Sony has all the specs to say they have the best value. There is really no arguement against that from another company. The problem is making that message understandable for the myriad of rabbid soccer moms that will invade retailers with NO knowledge of any console and what it offers.
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13. October 2008 @ 12:34 |
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The PS3 is great for its price. A price cut would be ridiculous, as the PS3 is the cheapest way for a Blu-Ray player and more. The people out there aren't thinking reasonably, Sony will probably lose money if they cut the price.
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13. October 2008 @ 12:54 |
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the consumer cares, lower prices are alwyas better so it means you can get more games/accessories
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13. October 2008 @ 13:06 |
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A blu player can be had for $149 on "black friday".. whatever that is (according to other posters).. and they are between £250-300 here.. Less than a ps3..
Looks like sony want to hang on to the coveted 3rd place. At least it keeps their bloggers busy making up numbers and pulling the wool.
Life just wouldn't be the same if they had a success with a media format.. that's just so not sony's style.
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So, in effect, Sony are perfectly happy with the price that the PS3 currently sells for, with the current price point allowing the console to sell in large numbers, but still giving Sony the chance to make some sort of profit on it. The Playstation 3 has already cost Sony $3 billion, so profitability has got to be a key concern at this point in time, even if it means sales take a bit of a hit.
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13. October 2008 @ 13:11 |
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thats the thing varnul, the US get rebates, and special deals on thanks givings etc, we in the UK get ripped off as it is.
drop that PS3 to £225, and sony are laughing.
(be it even a core model, so long as it has blueray and the wifi)
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13. October 2008 @ 13:31 |
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Sure its a great value...unless you're still not caring about blu-ray yet.
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13. October 2008 @ 15:16 |
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the ps3 now has dts hd decoder wich the samsungg p1500 has not, ps3 will remain to be the greatest deal when it comes to blu-ray. the ps3 has a fine price, i mean it doens't have a ring with red ligths and .. wait a minute only that makes it worth the extra money.
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A blu player can be had for $149 on "black friday".. whatever that is (according to other posters).. and they are between £250-300 here.. Less than a ps3..
Looks like sony want to hang on to the coveted 3rd place. At least it keeps their bloggers busy making up numbers and pulling the wool.
Life just wouldn't be the same if they had a success with a media format.. that's just so not sony's style.
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So, in effect, Sony are perfectly happy with the price that the PS3 currently sells for, with the current price point allowing the console to sell in large numbers, but still giving Sony the chance to make some sort of profit on it. The Playstation 3 has already cost Sony $3 billion, so profitability has got to be a key concern at this point in time, even if it means sales take a bit of a hit.
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13. October 2008 @ 18:38 |
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No price cut b4 Christmas ? I still betting on a price cut at Chtistmas in this recession (to help sales) !
When the chips are down, you can count on miltex !
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13. October 2008 @ 18:42 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
thats the thing varnul, the US get rebates, and special deals on thanks givings etc, we in the UK get ripped off as it is.
drop that PS3 to £225, and sony are laughing.
(be it even a core model, so long as it has blueray and the wifi)
yeah, black friday is day after thanksgiving.
biggest shopping day of the year in this country, and biggest sales too.
you say core model and it makes me think of the 360 "core" or maybe "arcade."
nothing wrong with it, except they've made it impossible for ps3.
sony opted for hdd in every box, so games often require relatively large installs.
honestly, the hdd can't be costing them much; standard 2.5" and all.
playstation 3 is great, but it probably is too expensive.
a price cut is always a good thing,
and i would welcome one even though i just recently bought a ps3.
they haven't Actually dropped the price of the thing at all since launch,
opting instead to remove $100 worth of equipment (ps2 emotion engine.)
bundling games are the only thing they've done,
but at least the one i got was metal gear solid 4.
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13. October 2008 @ 19:04 |
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well i say core from the 360 but call it what ever, HDDs cost nowt these days, include a 40GB one, keep wifi, reduce USBs, take out bluetooth, other more unneccesacery things, wait for thr 45nm chips to kick in, and get to £225, and they will be lapping up sales.
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13. October 2008 @ 19:40 |
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Now that Sony is entrenched into 3rd place it seems that their strategy has shifted from trying to sell the most hardware but rather trying to sell hardware at a cost that actually makes them a profit like Nintendo.
I read an article about 6 months ago about how they were breaking even on sales of the 40GB PS3. Manufacturing costs had to have come down somewhat since then and yet the price of the system is still the same. I wonder if they're making a small profit on each unit sold yet.
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13. October 2008 @ 20:29 |
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Originally posted by miltex:
No price cut b4 Christmas ? I still betting on a price cut at Chtistmas in this recession (to help sales) !
I'm thinking the same thing also.Sony not going to tell everyone there going to be a price cut this early.If it haven't happen during black Friday then its not going to happen this holiday.
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13. October 2008 @ 21:12 |
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If Sony doesn't cut their price by at least Christmas Microsoft and Nintendo will decimate them. They keep this "we're not gonna lower the price" attitude, but we and they know that things are in trying times right now and people just don't have $400 to spend on a piece of hardware that may not satisfy them. I hope they don't drop the price, just so Microsoft can keep grabbing market share. We need to support REAL gamer machines like the 360.
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13. October 2008 @ 21:28 |
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i think its a dumb move by $ony not to give the ps3 a price cut seeing how the global economy is nowadays.
now, this christmas belongs to the 360.
since like someone mentioned, most soccer moms are the ones that invade malls to shop for a deal not for no specs, they barely want kids to play videogames to begin with.
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13. October 2008 @ 22:28 |
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and to think of all the poor kids who will have to suffer through wii sports on Xmas day instead of enjoying a true next gen experience. At least with the 360 they could have some of the features this generation offers... Assuming mom can accurately navigate the sku's well enough to minimize the chance of an RROD and to finally understand what a HDD is and it's value to everyone who calls themself a gamer.
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13. October 2008 @ 22:41 |
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A lot of people think sony is crazy for not dropping the price of the PS3 since Microsoft had across the board cuts. I have been preaching this for a while and I will continue to. Sony can not afford to drop the price and it will not happen anytime soon. Why not??? Ok lets see...People say the PS3 is the best bargain yet people wonder why they dont drop the price. Ok how bout the Blueray player, cell processor, built in Wifi. This is new technology and it drives the production cost of the PS3 up. People talk about the 360 but they give the consumer a choice of what to buy and how much they want to spend. That is the price you have to pay for next generation technology.
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Who even cares. Its even more cheaper to purchase a PS3 than a blu-ray player.
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A price cut would be ridiculous, as the PS3 is the cheapest way for a Blu-Ray player and more.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but please stop posting with these lies about the PS3 being the cheapest way to go blue-ray.
It is not. I just came from walmart. My cousin went to buy NBA 2k8 for his PS3 and while there we say blueray players as low as $240 and i am sure if i really tried i could find one for less than $200 US dollars. Facts....keep them real.
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Sony has all the specs to say they have the best value. There is really no arguement against that from another company. The problem is making that message understandable for the myriad of rabbid soccer moms that will invade retailers with NO knowledge of any console and what it offers.
The best value is in the eye of the consumer. Everyone is different and the consumers decide which is the best value.
Wii--------number 1 in sales
Xbox360----number 2 in sales
PS3--------number 3 in sales
The consumers have spoken.
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13. October 2008 @ 22:53 |
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Who ever keeps on bringing up a recession you forget its Mainly only the US in the Economical shitter, but what else is new we have had 16 1-4 year recession's. in 1873 A 23 year depression, and in 1929 a 10 year depression.
Besides we were promised games, yet i still don't see decent exclusive's don't even bring up MGS. thats one where are the others.
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13. October 2008 @ 22:59 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
well i say core from the 360 but call it what ever, HDDs cost nowt these days, include a 40GB one, keep wifi, reduce USBs, take out bluetooth, other more unneccesacery things, wait for thr 45nm chips to kick in, and get to £225, and they will be lapping up sales.
The controllers operate via bluetooth, so getting rid of it probably isn't a good idea ^.^' And you would be surprised how many usb ports you will need to use; 4 isn't enough some of the time and I don't want to get a hub and risk overloading the port and frying one of the usb's.
There isn't too much more they can cut off of the 40gig which a lot of people didn't want, which is why they gave it the axe in favor of an almost identical one but with a 160gb hdd. I saw a 40gig for the first time a few weeks ago at best buy out of the box and imo it looked very cheaply made compared to my 60gig and its fit and finish was an immediate turnoff.
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14. October 2008 @ 04:57 |
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Considering what's in the box, the PS3 is already pretty cheap, so I also don't see a reason for Sony to drop the price.
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14. October 2008 @ 06:36 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
well i say core from the 360 but call it what ever, HDDs cost nowt these days, include a 40GB one, keep wifi, reduce USBs, take out bluetooth, other more unneccesacery things, wait for thr 45nm chips to kick in, and get to £225, and they will be lapping up sales.
The controllers operate via bluetooth, so getting rid of it probably isn't a good idea ^.^' And you would be surprised how many usb ports you will need to use; 4 isn't enough some of the time and I don't want to get a hub and risk overloading the port and frying one of the usb's.
There isn't too much more they can cut off of the 40gig which a lot of people didn't want, which is why they gave it the axe in favor of an almost identical one but with a 160gb hdd. I saw a 40gig for the first time a few weeks ago at best buy out of the box and imo it looked very cheaply made compared to my 60gig and its fit and finish was an immediate turnoff.
yeah after i wrote that i thought about that aswell LOOL!
its true they have cut it down alot tbh, this is the core vs the 60GB.
maybe they should wait for the 45nm chips to start coming out, then use them and reduce the price of this core, and at the £300 price pull out an 80GB full fat version (aka 60GB with a bigger HDD).
i dunno, im not in to marketing, that why im posting on aD and dont have a job LOOL!
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14. October 2008 @ 07:48 |
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A price cut would be ridiculous, as the PS3 is the cheapest way for a Blu-Ray player and more.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but please stop posting with these lies about the PS3 being the cheapest way to go blue-ray.
It is not. I just came from walmart. My cousin went to buy NBA 2k8 for his PS3 and while there we say blueray players as low as $240 and i am sure if i really tried i could find one for less than $200 US dollars. Facts....keep them real.
I clearly said 'and more'. You buy the PS3 for Blu-Ray, great gaming, music, internet browsing and possible having it as a computer since you can run Linux on it. To me, the PS3's price is great for what it is.
EDIT: OK, I just looked at the sales and I DO see that the PS3 is very expensive but it's great for its price. I would see why mum's would buy the 360, as they know it's cheap.
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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
The best value is in the eye of the consumer. Everyone is different and the consumers decide which is the best value.
Wii--------number 1 in sales
Xbox360----number 2 in sales
PS3--------number 3 in sales
The consumers have spoken.
Yes the consumers have spoken and this is what they actually say (since it can always change)
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Wii-
1st America
1st Europe
1st Japan
PS3-
3rd America
2nd Europe
2nd Japan
360-
2nd America
3rd Europe
3rd Japan
Wii = 1st with all 1st places
PS3 = 2nd with 2 / 2nd places & 1 3rd (but gaining every month)
360 = 3rd with 2 / 3rd places and 1 / 2nd (losing ground every month & dead RROD 360's being counted as working consoles = funny #'s ~ FACT)
This coupled with the fact that the PS3 has outsold the 360 in 2006, 2007 and so far the majority of 2008 shows a different scope than what you have said. If you want to just go by overall number than that is one way to look at it. But when you break down each localization it shows a clearer more exact over view. Either way though, at the end of the day it works out best for all of us. Price cuts = more competitive pricing (hopefully), more games, more options & more capabilities to be offered by all the companies involved.
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Originally posted by oner:
Yes the consumers have spoken and this is what they actually say (since it can always change)
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Wii-
1st America
1st Europe
1st Japan
PS3-
3rd America
2nd Europe
2nd Japan
360-
2nd America
3rd Europe
3rd Japan
Wii = 1st with all 1st places
PS3 = 2nd with 2 / 2nd places & 1 3rd (but gaining every month)
360 = 3rd with 2 / 3rd places and 1 / 2nd (losing ground every month & dead RROD 360's being counted as working consoles = funny #'s ~ FACT)
This coupled with the fact that the PS3 has outsold the 360 in 2006, 2007 and so far the majority of 2008 shows a different scope than what you have said. If you want to just go by overall number than that is one way to look at it. But when you break down each localization it shows a clearer more exact over view. Either way though, at the end of the day it works out best for all of us. Price cuts = more competitive pricing (hopefully), more games, more options & more capabilities to be offered by all the companies involved.
you really love to try to bash the 360 don't you unbiased moderator.
where did you get them numbers from?
try to quote links not made up nonsense.
UK PS3 install base over three times what it was a year ago Quote:
30 Sep 2008
Despite that, PS3 sales throughout the last year have increased dramatically, keeping in line with 360 sales during the period. Both consoles sold around a million units between last September and now, with the PS3 install base rising from 0.4 million to 1.4 million.
Lifetime British Console Sales FiguresQuote:
29 September 2008
ChartTrack have released some hard, useful sales data for the British market, in the form of lifetime sales figures for the current generation of both home and portable consoles. As of this month, the PS3 has sold 1.4 million units. The 360 has sold 2.3 million. The Wii, however, has both trumped, nearly outnumbering the competition combined at a healthy 3.6 million sold (Wii). And the handhelds? Nowhere near as close. The PSP has sold 2.9 million units, while the DS has sold a whopping 7.1 million.
you do realise that "actual" sales are different to most sources that quote units shipped to retailers!
Global Sales Quote:
360
consoles sold
20,647,463
PS3
consoles sold
11,648,355
Wii
consoles sold
23,530,801
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he was showing 2008 sales, not over all sales....
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