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Memorex 4X, all discs unreadable?!?!
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Tincan
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13. February 2004 @ 10:28 |
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I purchased a pack of 100 Memorex 4X professional DVD-R discs from UK, but they've proved to be a source of frustration.
Pioneer DVR-105 doesn't recognise the disc properly, the disc keeps spinning like mad but doesn't show up in any media info utility.
Toshiba 6112 kicks out the disc right after insertion.
Nec 1300 reads the disc (Media ID shows SMC as manufacturer), but doesn't even begin the burn process.
What the heck is going on?? I've tried all kinds of no-name brands, but never have I encountered a batch of discs that all seem to be totally unreadable!
I ordered these from overseas and sending them back means an extra cost as well. I contacted Memorex, but have had no response yet. Has anyone heard about this? Are there batches of Memorex 4X going round that are this fooked up?
I know for a fact that loads of people are using these discs with their DVR-105 with no problems.
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Tincan
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13. February 2004 @ 10:30 |
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Sorry, manufacturer is CMC MAG...
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14. February 2004 @ 18:34 |
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Hi Tincan, CMC MAG makes disc for many companies. However
they are one of the companies that make poor quality blank media. Your Memorex blanks are probably -R media. Memorex +R media is usually made by Ricoh(Ritek). If at all possible, I would try to return them or get some type of credit. Sorry I can't give you a better answer.
Jerry
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ricster
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16. February 2004 @ 02:45 |
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I had weird problems with Memorex DVD-R 4x. When I first got my burner (NEC 1300) a friend gave me one to try. It was fine so I bought another 20. They came in cellophane-sealed cake boxes of 10 and were all perfect. I was so pleased that I'd found a disc that worked for me so I ordered another 50 from a different supplier. These arrived in cake boxes of 10 but were not sealed. Also, one of the Memorex circular card inserts was missing and 4 discs were physically marked. I just assumed that the supplier probably got them in a much larger quantity and simply made up their own boxes, or that these were somebody else's rejects. Anyway, not one of these discs could be recognised by the NEC. I still had a few of the originals and these continued to work fine. I even ran both discs through DVD identifier and the output was the same (CMC MAG I believe). In the end I returned them for a refund. I still don't understand why they never worked but I was suspicious by the packaging.
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Tincan
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16. February 2004 @ 10:29 |
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Well, the testing is now over, and the verdict is out.
This batch of Memorex 4X DVD-R is a pile of crap. Tried 5 different burners, all with the most recent firmware, and none of the drives was able to burn one of these babies.
A word of warning, be very careful when you buy Memorex CMC MAG AF1 discs! You just might get a similar batch...
I purchased 100 coasters (have only tested about 30 discs, though) and will NEVER buy Memorex DVD-R again. Btw, these came in tubs of 10. Sending them back where they came from.
T.
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ricster
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16. February 2004 @ 21:23 |
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Same here. I will never buy them again. I only buy Ritek G04's now. Not had any problems with these.
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proftiti
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16. February 2004 @ 22:29 |
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hi
i've got the same problem !
250 dvd-r memorex (10 pack) bought at digitalpromo.co.uk
I live in France so It's very complicated for me to send all bad dvd's. I tryed to call memorex France but they don't want to make an exchange. They saied " return to sender"
:(
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ricster
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16. February 2004 @ 22:46 |
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Very interesting. Mine came from Digital Promotions too. In fairness to them they gave me a fast full refund, but I had to pay for postage.
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Tincan
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17. February 2004 @ 05:51 |
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Now this is REALLY interesting...my batch is from DigitalPromo as well...the sad thing is that the buyer has to pay for the postage cost, although it's basically bad media. I contacted Memorex as well, and the reply was "contact the buyer".
This is NOT how it's supposed to be, and as it seems that there is a larger entity of bad Memorex going round, I will surely contact Memorex Europe again. What I'm looking for is a valid e-mail address, not just the feedback form on their webpage. The reply based on the form was a semi-automatic message containing the "check your hardware" kinda BS, nothing specific and certainly nothing referring to the fact that the media itself could be bad.
Very interesting indeed...
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Tincan
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17. February 2004 @ 05:54 |
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Made a mistake in the heat of the moment; contact the SELLER that is...
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ricster
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17. February 2004 @ 06:08 |
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I had no idea this was a common problem. I did pose the question in these forums a while ago but had little response. If the media is faulty then you're right - you shouldn't have to pay the postage. I had assumed that it was some kind of weird compatibility issue.
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17. February 2004 @ 14:24 |
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Hi guys, Sorry to see so many having the same problems. Here is a good site to check blank media by Name and who made it. It should help some of you from getting stuck again.
www.dvdrhelp.com
They have listings on media, media and burner compatibility and comments from other users. Hope this helps for future reference. I stick with Ritek media and haven't had a problem since I switched. At usually less than a $1 each its worth the cost not to have the problems. Good luck to all.
Jerry
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Tincan
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18. February 2004 @ 20:54 |
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The thing is, I've been using dvdrhelp for a long time now to check the media compatibility. These Memorex discs are supposed to work ok with Pioneer DVR-105, that's the point.
It has the same media ID, it looks similar. Propably this batch is just screwed up, a pile of shiny beer mats. What's funny, Memorex Europe, the company, seems to take no responsibility in this doohiki. Return them to the retailer, is the answer.
Go figure. The customer gets screwed AND pays the extra costs of sending the discs back. Hooray. You can be sure no Memorex media touches my computer desk from this day on, that much I've learned.
Z.
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surfmike
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18. February 2004 @ 21:44 |
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I agree, Memorex DVD-R, and DVD+RW are not good. I forked out money for these. I thought it was a hardware issue. I got some really cheap dvd-r at comp usa. 10 for 3.99 with cases. The problem is solved. I still dont know what to do with the 20 Memorex coasters, I could sell them on ebay as used golf ball frisbes.
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ricster
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18. February 2004 @ 21:49 |
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Tincan is right. This disk is supposed to be compatible. I've used another batch with total success. That is the strange thing. The media codes are identical but the second batch seems defective. I can only assume that the suppliers will eventually return them to the manufacturer. That's a poor show from Memorex. You'd think they would show some concern since their name is on the product.
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rgm
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19. February 2004 @ 07:13 |
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Hello... maybe my problem is related to yours...
I have an iMac 800 15" with the first superdrive that came out. I was able to rip DVD's perfectly and I burned about five. They all read fine. The next four that I burn would give me an error after burning them and playing them. The apple dvd player would say that the disk was scratched or dirty. Last night I tried one of the dvd's that had burned succesfully and as I was falling asleep the error came up. The weird thing is that all of these disks are Memorex DVD-R 4x bought in the USA.
PS: i also had a problem with a Maxell disk where the same error showed up after burning.
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19. February 2004 @ 13:04 |
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Well i must say that Memorex must use a lot of diff source's to make there DVD-R as i purchased 100 of them thinking what a deal from Staples $9.98 w/case 10 packs frist 6 had no prob. Then Hell broke lose they would record fine it's just the play back 45min in to the movie starts frezzin then stops playing the movie so i down loaded DVDinfoPro ran media test the box that i had made with no prob read as ProDiscSCG02. Open a diff box it reads Media as CMC MAG AF1.So i new the movie was good as i ck it of hard drive played fine.Went out and purchased a 10 pack od Fuji DVD-R same movie that was giving prob.worked great i have found unless it says right on the box made in Japan i am not buying them as you should ck as i was going to buy the 100 pack untill i read made in Taiwan. Now this was Fuji Media the 10 pack said made in Japan.So make sure it say made in Japan & For the Memorex took them back for return of my money i don't need any more coasters. I will only buy Fuji or Ritek say with theses brands and save your self a LOT of Headaces
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brent1a
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19. February 2004 @ 19:43 |
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I read up on media before I bought my drive and spent many hours deciding which discs to get. I have the Plextor PX-708A and I've been using Memorex DVD+R's manufactured by both CMC MAG and Ricoh. My first 25 were CMC MAG and I thought I had wasted my money too. I fugured 2 major things tho' 1. My drive doesn't support 8x varirec burning for a lot of discs yet and 2. You can't burn a disc to it's max. I use AutoShrink with DVD Shrink and I have my Shrink pre-set amount set to 4205MB Apparently a lot of dvd players have serious trouble reading all the way to the edge of a burnt DVD. So it took 5 coasters and I haven't had any since and I've burned at least 50 Memorex DVD+R's. They're fine, IMO, you just have to know how to sweet talk 'em!
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ricster
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19. February 2004 @ 21:39 |
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Brent1a - I don't know about the +R's - this is all about the -R's. No manner of sweet talking will make this defective batch respond. The point is this - I sat at my machine with 2 cake boxes of identical looking media with identical headers. I took a disc from the good batch and burned it. I took a disc from the second batch and it was not recognised. I went back to the first batch and it was fine. Not one of the second batch worked. I repeated this many times. Personally, I will not touch them again simply because I cannot take the risk.
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Tincan
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20. February 2004 @ 00:08 |
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Once more I will back up what Ricster tries to put forth; the batch of Memorex DVD-R that we have purchased is screwed up/defective, however you want to express it.
It's not a matter of reading through compatibility lists, or using nick-nack software to do fancy things to your data.
I've tried 5 (five) different burners so far, and not one has been able to burn one of these discs. In my opinion, that's hardly "incompatible media". To me, that's "faulty media".
I'm just eager to find out how many people have the same troubles, that is, how common this problem is. It's clear already that Ric and I are not the only ones suffering from this.
The point, once again, is that as these were bought from an online store, all the costs of returning the discs are paid by the customer. In other words, I pay for non-working media plus the postage, and then I pay for the return costs as well. Nice.
Still waiting to hear a proper response from Memorex.
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brent1a
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20. February 2004 @ 05:34 |
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It sounds like you guys just got the short end of the stick. Sorry to hear that. I guess a complete batch of bad discs is possible just as with 6 packs of bad beer and so on. I think a batch of bad beer would piss me off more though, JK.
I believe that you may never hear anything from Memorex if at all and your best bet would be to report their US based side of the company to the Better Business Bureau.
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20. February 2004 @ 06:12 |
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All i can say once again is that we are only talking about Memorex DVD-R. Bottom line there JUNK and as saying how maneny DVD+R you have burn well that's all go as the DVD+R are NOT the same as the DVD-R.No matter wear you get them DVD-R Memorex are junk.I have talked to Memorex and they say there are some probs. with the DVD-R Media.The same movies that i had trouble with Burned and played great that cause i am useing Fuji DVD-R and won't chg .They say right on the lable Made in Japan. I will NOT have any more coasters
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20. February 2004 @ 17:54 |
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Hi again guys, I refer often to the dvdrhelp site for compatibility problems on media. But you have to start to look at the overall performance of a certain manufacturer to get the big picture. I had a bad experience with Khypermedia blanks(also made by CMC-Mag)in the +R media. Anytime I see a bad post about a media name, I look to see who made it. This company doesn't have a good track record. I agree that Memorex should stand behind anything with their name on it, but they have no control over quality. Since CMC-MAG discs are so unpredictable it was possible that when tested by the people on the DVDRHELP site, they got a better batch. I know it still doesn't help your original problem, but I do feel your anger after making 15 coasters out of 25 with CMC-MAG Khypermedia blanks. Keep pounding on Memorex's door until they answer. Good luck.
Jerry
PS--I only use Ritek now with no problems.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 20. February 2004 @ 17:56
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bcrichie
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16. March 2004 @ 15:27 |
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You guys seem like you know what you're talking about...I have a similar question...
I successfully burned about 5 DVDs using DVD Backup, DVD2OneX, and Toast 6. I had the same exact problems with Memorex Discs when I bought them in bulk (Error message: "Could not record because there is a problem with the source material. Result Code = -18774.")
I returned Memorex discs and bought 50 Fuji DVD-R. I AM STILL GETTING THAT SAME ERROR MESSAGE. I'm really frustrated now. Can anyone help? Thanks!
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AfterDawn Addict
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16. March 2004 @ 17:29 |
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bcrichie, I've never used any of the programs you listed. but the error message suggests you have a problem with the SOURCE area. This would be a problem with the original DVD or the way the files are on your HD. I suggest you download DVDshrink (free) and DVD Decrypter also free. And check the guides for them from the guide tab at the page top. These programs will rip the dvd to your HD in the proper format. Then you just burn back to the blank with something like Nero or Recordnow Max. Your problem may not have been the blank media.
Jerry
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