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gera229
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4. November 2008 @ 10:38 |
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So is that graphic card u showed me last long in lifetime and last long in hours in gaming without messing up right? like at very high like a farcry for like 15 hours with working smoothly and has smooth fps which is at least 60 for very high farcry right? And is the card u told me 750mhz core clock and 1800mhz memory clock? right? Ok I will get the case u told me about them. Thank you. peace.
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4. November 2008 @ 10:40 |
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That depends on the resolution you used. Maxed out with Anti-Aliasing applied, the HD4870 is likely to score around 40fps in Far Cry 2 at 1920x1200, but will make the 60 you are after at resolutions of 1680x1050 and lower (22" monitor or smaller)
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4. November 2008 @ 18:44 |
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So is that graphic card u showed me last long in lifetime and last long in hours in gaming without messing up right? like at very high like a farcry for like 15 hours with working smoothly? And is the card u told me 750mhz core clock and 1800mhz memory clock? Because i see it does good in cooling but i don't know about the speeds and is it better and faster than the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125225 and if it's not and this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125225 doesn't overheat and is able to do very high on a 1680x1050 for 15 hours working smoothly minimum well i don't play that much but that's considered good for me than I will get this one instead the first one u told me about. And and the sapphire card u told me about they say it doesn't have a crossfire bridge? Does it matter and can you buy one for it if it does matter and connect it easily not hardly? And what is it for and what does it do? Thank you. Peace.
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4. November 2008 @ 19:10 |
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Get the proper cooler on the Sapphire card, it'll be better. That card can handle gaming for as long as you like.
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4. November 2008 @ 19:15 |
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Ok is it better than the gygabyte one u told me about though? And faster is it? And even if i don't upgrade the cooler would it still handle gaming as long as i would like without getting idle or or freezing up or slowing down or something? So like more than 15 hours and stuff in a row right? And would it last for years in lifetime? Like how long? I see that it has no warranty. And what are the speeds of it in core clock and memory clock? And also the 620hx only has 2 pci-e connectors and is that enough or more than enough? How much is required really? Are there graphics cards that required it to connect 2 on one card. Is there more than 2 on one card though like 3 or more on one card not 2 or 3 cards but 1? If not then that's probably enough? And are the pci-e only for graphics cards? Because http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106083 does this required power connectors from the PSU? or any objects like that. If it does then I won't have enough of them the PCI connectors from the PSU right? And if that's true ima just get the 1000hx one.
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From the Sapphire website:
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Sapphire VGA products carry a 2 year warranty with all enquires carried out through your initial place of purchase. This can only be carried out by the original purchaser Please contact your Dealer/Reseller for Warranty / RMA service. They will require proof of purchase which includes the original invoice/documentation.
The 620W Corsair HX has two 6-pin connectors, which is how many you need for an HD4870. They come as 6+2 pins, so all you need do is separate them, which is easy using the clip provided.
Graphics cards are the ONLY components that require these sorts of power connectors, so the 620W HX will be fine. Before you ask, the CPU uses an 8-pin connector too, but rather than splitting into 6+2, this can split into 4+4, so that's how you tell the difference.
The only difference with the more expensive card you posted is it has a bigger cooler, and realistically, that isn't necessary, it's pretty much a waste of $50.
The BASE memory clock for these cards is 900mhz. However, they use GDDR5 rather than the traditional GDDR3, which means that rather than doubling (DDR = Double Data Rate), you quadruple the speed, so the actual memory speed is 3600mhz, which is very high. However, please don't read too much into this, since I've stated before - memory clock specifications and the like are meaningless, it is the real world performance that counts.
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5. November 2008 @ 09:20 |
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Ok what if i was to buy this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106083 would this require the pin connector from anothe wire? Oh and the graphics cards i showed that's 50 dollars more they say it's over clocked instead of 900 mhz they say it's 1000 mhz and instead of 640 core cock it's 680 does that make a difference? So what's a perpheral connector what ur talkign about?
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5. November 2008 @ 09:25 |
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That fan requires a normal molex power connector, of which the Corsair HX has loads. No problem there, however, those slot fan cards tend to be pretty useless, there's no real reason to buy one as the 4870 doesn't exhaust into the case, it has its own dual slot cooler. Realising that the particular 4870 is overclocked, makes it a better deal. However, I've no idea how reliable those are as I haven't owned one myself.
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5. November 2008 @ 09:28 |
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So are the connectors perispheral right? Oh and what does IDLE temperature mean? And they say this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125225 is GDDR5 at 1800mhz is that true?and if it is so does that mean it's faster and better but just hotter? Can you help me search info about the cards and tell me if 50$ would be a rip or a good deal it is loud but better cooling and it handles most games by only a little better and some games a little worse but only a couple games worse so not much worse overall wins though. Some reviews say they didn't have enough fps with the sapphire is that what the other hd 4870's would have i mean would they have as much fps as the sapphires, less, or more? I need help researching about it. And heat doesn't really matter right? I thought the hotter the slower? What does heat make worse? Oh and im planning to get a 20" 1680 x 1050 monitor with the sapphire graphics card. Is that a good choice?
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5. November 2008 @ 12:33 |
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If they say 900, 1800 or 3600, it's all the same, it's 3600mhz memory.
Heat is not an issue with the 4870s, you won't get any problems from it, with any cooler unless your case is rubbish, and the RC-690 isn't.
All brands of a particular card (e.g. Sapphire 4870 vs Visiontek 4870) perform about the same, unless they're overclocked (like the $50 more expensive one) but even then, that's less than a 10% difference in speed, not much.
A 20" monitor is a bit of a waste with such a powerful PC, I'd recommend a 24" as a suitable companion.
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5. November 2008 @ 12:43 |
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mate whats your final buget, uses and are you OCing, also are you looking to get just the tower, or monitor/OS/speakers/keyboard/mouse aswell?
if just tower, whats the monitor you will be using?
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5. November 2008 @ 18:55 |
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5. November 2008 @ 19:11 |
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so everything. ok now whats the budget, and your uses and are you Overclocking?
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5. November 2008 @ 19:14 |
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The Sapphire (normal, not $50 extra) and Gigabyte are identical.
For the DVD drive, get the newer 22x one, there's no reason not to, and it's faster! :)
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5. November 2008 @ 19:14 |
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nope not planning to overclock.. ok also tell me about the cd drives. And if the sapphire toxic is less than 10% difference is 50$ for it a rip?
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5. November 2008 @ 19:16 |
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See my post above. I wouldn't pay $50 for extra 10% performance, as you can overclock the card yourself and get the same result, usually with no problems.
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5. November 2008 @ 19:18 |
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ok now what about the cd drives?
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5. November 2008 @ 19:21 |
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Again, see the post I wrote earlier. You clearly didn't spot it.
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5. November 2008 @ 19:24 |
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Oh yea lol sorry. So what is better sapphire vs gigabyte? i see the gigabyte is worth more but don't get why. And the graphics cards wouldn't really do any difference in performance u wouldned really see any difference between the sapphire toxic and original sapphire right?
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5. November 2008 @ 19:30 |
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They're both the same, pick whichever you like.
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5. November 2008 @ 19:31 |
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Idk because the sapphire cools better but why is the gigabyte more expensive though? And is OS like everything together? like i don't know what i means.
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5. November 2008 @ 19:33 |
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Only the extra expensive Sapphire one has better cooling. The cheaper Sapphire and the Gigabyte are the exact same card, even built by the same company.
OS = Operating system, i.e. Windows XP, Windows Vista, Linux etc.
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5. November 2008 @ 19:36 |
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5. November 2008 @ 19:51 |
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which one lasts longer sapphire or gygabyte and why is gygabite more expensive?
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