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13. November 2008 @ 10:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
But the sapphire has less warranty does it? And it runs cooler.
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13. November 2008 @ 10:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The Sapphire has a shorter warranty, but I don't trust most graphics companies to actually give you a warranty in the first place. ATI themselves have their own warranty department you can speak to about faults, so I don't look into what the actual 'brand' offers.
As for the Sapphire running cooler, the $50 extra one might, but the cheaper Sapphire runs at exactly the same temperature at the Gigabyte. The card that probably runs the coolest of the lot is the Asus one. However, as I stated before, heat is not a problem for these cards unless they go over 100ºC, and none of them will, unless you manage to get a cable trapped in their fan while building your PC. Even if that happened and the card reached 100 degrees, it would just shut your PC down, it wouldn't cause the PC any harm. Trust me, I've done it, I've had a graphics card run at 90ºC for most of its life (an X1900) and now it's well over two years old, it still works perfectly. Forget about heat.



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K I'll think about it cuz yea Im affraid the sapphire has less warranty. And your x 1900 went at 90 degrees and not over that and worked perfectly? How long was it like on for hours? What if u gamed for 24 hours in a row ( not what i do but just asking) would it go over 100 degrees? And what's better hd 4870 or x1900 xtx? cuz the xtx is worth more but is it a rip?

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The X1900XT-X is ancient, so there's no point buying it, the 4870 is 5 times as fast. I could game with either card for 24 hours and it'd never go over 90C.



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13. November 2008 @ 21:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok i never knew u replied no need to look here actually.
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Sam u know the gtx 260 right? U know the links i showed u in the bar graph comparisons? Are those games like the car game this onehttp://techreport.com/articles.x/15651/9 new games that came out not too long ago? I know crysis warhead is new. If it is new then the hd 4870 wouldn't be as good as the gtx260 in the future right? What if the gtx 260 would always work better with the newer games? Or are there any new games that came out not too long ago where the hd 4870 beat the gtx260? Or should i just get the 1gb version of hd 4870? And if I do would the heat be controlled the same or would it run hotter? Would it last long with the same performance as when it was cool for like 30 hours gaming non stop in a row when i say last longer. Would i last long in lifetime? How much years? What temperatures does it run? Thanks. Peace.

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14. November 2008 @ 09:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
it varies per game, and it's random, how old the game is doesn't matter.
If the HD4870 wasn't the best card to buy, why would I have recommended it? I'm not trying to mislead you here. Just listen to advice you're given for once.



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So even the hd4870 can perform better on newer games? Ok and sam should I just get the 1gb of gigabyte? Is it the same heat or a little hotter? Does it last for like if i was to game 30 hours non stop straight in a row and it be under 99 degrees so 98-97 degrees and less? And would it last long in lifetime? How much years? Thanks. peace.
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14. November 2008 @ 10:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 1GB card is only really necessary if you're using a 24" monitor or bigger, with only a 22", you won't see a difference.





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Sam take a look at this http://techreport.com/articles.x/15651/9 and answer my other questions. thanks. And when a card gets hot does the performance get slightly lower than it was when i was cool? Is there any good motherboard with 2pci express 2.0 slots, 2 pci slots, and 2 pci x1 express slots? Well at least 2 of the ones i listed. If there isn't I will just stick with the one u told me about since it's my only choice.

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14. November 2008 @ 20:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have read that article several times already. I don't see what else is to be answered, I answered that whole post with my last message. Graphics cards don't slow down when they get hot.



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14. November 2008 @ 21:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok ima just go for the 1gb since the price really doesn't matter for me. But should i get sapphire or gigabyte? I'm thinking of gigabyte. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102795
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125243

sam so did u find a good motherboard with the slots I asked u about? If u didn't ill just stick with the 102$ one.
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You won't need two PCIe slots, that board has one slot which is perfect for using an HD4870.



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sam answer about the lan thing. Is it possible to add another one? And also answer the gpu which one to get. Do u in your opinion think gigabyte is better than sapphire? do u?

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14. November 2008 @ 21:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
They are the exact same thing using the exact same cooler. Go with the cheaper one.
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14. November 2008 @ 21:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ide go with gigabyte it might be have better performance but same speeds. Sam read this>>>>>>> thanks my budget went lower than it was. yea im sorry I did reask questions. I mean different way though so i made sure u understood them. but anyways thanks.
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14. November 2008 @ 21:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Dude, who are you recommending this to? I thought you were asking the questions?

The Gigabyte and Sapphire are the EXACT SAME THING. There is NO performance difference. Sam already explained this to you with the RAM, more money does not equal better performance.
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This is why everyone else just left your thread. I'm trying to help you here.

BUY THIS. This is 30 dollars cheaper and the EXACT SAME ATI REFERENCE DESIGN CARD.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102795
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14. November 2008 @ 21:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok but I see from other forums that sapphire's been losing it's fps rate at times.
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14. November 2008 @ 22:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok W/E

I give up dude. There is NO WAY it would lose FPS. There is always a margin of error, but it;s the exact same card.


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14. November 2008 @ 22:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yea i'mm thinking a lot I'm actually looking at the results real people have actually experienced with. U know those bars with comparisons those are only maximum results not lifetime. But thanks to all that helped me. peace.
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14. November 2008 @ 23:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sam someone told me about this motherboard in another forum. I guess i should go for this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358 or this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...1-299-_-Product . The price is reasonable.

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i'd say P5Q PRO, sam will say the GA-EP45-UD3P
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15. November 2008 @ 02:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol spamuel ur doing that so i make my own choice. Oh gosh I really need to know for sure which one I should really get.
 
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