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Pioneer 400GB Blu-ray discs will play on PS3

article published on 3 December, 2008

The manufacturer Pioneer has confirmed that its upcoming 16-layer Blu-ray discs will play back on most current standalone Blu-ray players including the Sony PlayStation 3. The discs boast an impressive 400GB capacity and are finally headed into production by 2010 after being introduced earlier this year by Pioneer. Current Blu-ray discs consist of either single layer 25GB discs or ... [ read the full article ]

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3. December 2008 @ 22:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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40-layer 1TB discs in 2013
How long doe sit take to write to one of those? Imagine getting a coaster out of one of these . . .
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3. December 2008 @ 22:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What would really be the point of these other than full system backups or home/small business server backups. Granted you could put hundreds of h264 or HD divx movies on these. Then again they will be a boon for the pirates that could sell multiple movies on one disk. Especially in the Asian market.
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3. December 2008 @ 22:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So how much will each disc cost???

$200.00 per disc? $300.00?

Just imagine paying $200.00 (or more) for a 16-Layer BD-R disc and have the burning process FAIL on you.
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3. December 2008 @ 22:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's like the holy grail of home/business backup. Wow!

For instance my 3Tb media server could easily be backed up twice on a dozen of these.
It would be nice to have that kind of portability as well.
Imagine taking 400Gb of your media with you on vacation in a disposable fashion?
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3. December 2008 @ 23:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I hope these have bullet-proof anti-scratch coatings and still last 10+ years. I would hate to see 400GB of data go poof because of a little scratch.

Wishful thinking, these disks will cost something around $75 or less (in bulk) and not like $200+ or something per disk. When optical media becomes more expensive then a hard drive, it loses any use sort of cost efficiency for home users backups (businesses might start preferring this over tape backups, who knows).

Anyway, it's nice to see Pioneer having good luck adding all those layers to Blu-ray.
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3. December 2008 @ 23:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ivymike:
So how much will each disc cost???

$200.00 per disc? $300.00?

Just imagine paying $200.00 (or more) for a 16-Layer BD-R disc and have the burning process FAIL on you.
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4. December 2008 @ 00:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
whats next after these disc are out a 100-layered disc that would be like around 2-3 TB or something, how many layers can they put on a disc
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4. December 2008 @ 00:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if they can make a Blu-Ray disk with 16 layers then why can't they make a DVD with more than 2?
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4. December 2008 @ 01:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by engage16:
if they can make a Blu-Ray disk with 16 layers then why can't they make a DVD with more than 2?
Cause Blu-ray is the future. Who cares about DVD any more.

To bad we weren't asking this question while ago.

Is it because the laser used in DVD players can only read 2 layers deep ?
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4. December 2008 @ 01:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is gettin rediculous. A 400 GB disc? C'mon. How much will one of those cost? $100.00 and thats probably low. The only reason for those disks would be to store lots of files people download from puretna. Of course, I dont know anything about that site. Thats just what I have heard........
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4. December 2008 @ 05:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by ivymike:
So how much will each disc cost???

$200.00 per disc? $300.00?

Just imagine paying $200.00 (or more) for a 16-Layer BD-R disc and have the burning process FAIL on you.
ROFL


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4. December 2008 @ 07:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd much rather see cheaper blank 25/50GB discs. DVDs are still the most cost-effective backup solution when it comes to pennies per gigabyte.

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4. December 2008 @ 09:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by nonoitall:
I'd much rather see cheaper blank 25/50GB discs. DVDs are still the most cost-effective backup solution when it comes to pennies per gigabyte.
I agree. This is great for future expansion but give me cheaper prices on media now. I will stick with DVD's and usb drives, SD Cards, etc.. for now.
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4. December 2008 @ 11:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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40-layer 1TB discs in 2013
How long doe sit take to write to one of those? Imagine getting a coaster out of one of these . . .
just do a multiple session burn... do our hard drives have 400GB data that needs to be immediately stored?
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4. December 2008 @ 12:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think this may be better suited for the elimination of bulky multi-disc box sets. I'd love to have a few seasons of my favorite tv series in HD and all on one disc.

I'm sure were not the first people to wonder about failed burning either... Perhaps the discs won't be available as writable media until burners are fast and accurate enough to truly make this work.
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4. December 2008 @ 12:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i agree. and elimating box sets would be good. some of these shows can fit on one Disc even at 51 gigs!

but they dont do it.
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4. December 2008 @ 15:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ivymike:
So how much will each disc cost???

$200.00 per disc? $300.00?

Just imagine paying $200.00 (or more) for a 16-Layer BD-R disc and have the burning process FAIL on you.
I'm sure CD doubters had the same thoughts.

They can have my 5.25 floppy when they pry it out of my cold, dead fingers! I just don't trust those new 3.5 floppys. Never will!

All first to market media are expensive, but I don't see that being the ballpark at all - especially after production quality improves. That's what happens in the tech sector - early adopters help pay for the initial development as they continually work to reduce costs and improve the product.

BTW, I've never had a burn process fail (CD or DVD) unless the fault was my own (burning at too high a speed, etc.)
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Originally posted by ivymike:
So how much will each disc cost???

$200.00 per disc? $300.00?

Just imagine paying $200.00 (or more) for a 16-Layer BD-R disc and have the burning process FAIL on you.
dont even mention it
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10. December 2008 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how long do you think a 1TB burn would be? a week?
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26. January 2009 @ 04:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe 8x is the highest commercially available burning speed right now, at 36 MB/s. At that speed, it would take 8 hours, 5 minutes, and 27 seconds to burn a 1 TB disc. :P
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yuck.....
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9. February 2009 @ 20:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by joonbugg:
This is gettin rediculous. A 400 GB disc? C'mon. How much will one of those cost? $100.00 and thats probably low. The only reason for those disks would be to store lots of files people download from puretna. Of course, I dont know anything about that site. Thats just what I have heard........
Then about 30 cents a disk a few years after they're realeased. Once the machinery is upgraded to mass-produce 'em, the actual cost of the material for the disc is irrelevant.

Heck, blank 25GB bluray discs were $30 each 6 months ago, now I can get 'em here at Cosco (Canada) 3 pack for 30 bucks. End of summer they'll probably be 5 bucks each. Summer after that a 100 spindle for 30 bucks... etc. etc.. Multi-layer blurays will follow the same path.
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