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PS3 is a 'sinking ship', says CNNMoney

article published on 13 December, 2008

Citing yesterdays disappointing November hardware sales, CNNMoney has called the Sony PlayStation 3 a "sinking ship." The numbers show that the PS3 sold 19 percent less consoles year-on-year from the same period in 2007, and CNNMoney believes that a substantial price cut is necessary if the console wants to see a growth in sales anytime soon. After being outsold 840,000 to 380,000 ... [ read the full article ]

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14. December 2008 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Aaron4451:
Look, I think it should be considered a "sinking ship" due to the graphics! It worse then the PS1 & PS2! The firmware in the PS3 is 1.50% and the PS1 & PS2 is 1.80%.
Is this an attempt to flame the PS3..? It's obvious that the PS3 has the best graphics. It's almost the same as the 360, but when you can choose the best settings PS3 has better graphics.
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14. December 2008 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by kikzm33z:
Originally posted by Aaron4451:
Look, I think it should be considered a "sinking ship" due to the graphics! It worse then the PS1 & PS2! The firmware in the PS3 is 1.50% and the PS1 & PS2 is 1.80%.
Is this an attempt to flame the PS3..? It's obvious that the PS3 has the best graphics. It's almost the same as the 360, but when you can choose the best settings PS3 has better graphics.
Can anyone attempt to decipher what in the hell was meant by Aaron? Because I sure don't get it...but anyway ~ Uncharted 1, GT5P, MGS4 & Killzone 2 (to name a few) all say HI!

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Originally posted by Oner:
Can anyone attempt to decipher what in the hell was meant by Aaron? Because I sure don't get it...but anyway ~ Uncharted 1, GT5P, MGS4 & Killzone 2 (to name a few) all say HI!
Sounds like he equated the firmware version to the graphics for some reason.

Personally, I have never seen a firmware upgrade improve graphics in a game and newer technology is bound to have better graphics with a lower firmware version (for the most part) simply due to it being younger.
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Originally posted by Fab_Rat:
In defense to the PS3, in order to get the Xbox 360 to be anything like the PS3 as far a features, you end up spending more than what the 160GB PS3 sells for. The Xbox doesn't have wireless built in, or a High Definition player, (the HD-DVD player is extra). The PS3 is WI-FI ready, and already has Blu-Ray built in. Plus the Xbox is pretty much running at capacity as far as hardware is concerned. The PS3 has an 8 core processor that is only using 7 cores. The GPU on the Xbox is also running a shared RAM system, unlike the PS3. Give it time, and the PS3 will be wiping the floor with XBOX due to the lacking hardware. Xbox will have to come out with a new system just to keep up.

I dont think so if that were the case the wii would be getting their asses kicked and obviously they are not.
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14. December 2008 @ 21:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Finally back after like a year... My old name was vinny13... Who knows what happened to that account >:

Anyways, I've still been viewing the site with my mouth shut, and I find it funny how I remember so many people would beg for a price drop and complain until it happened, and then when it finally did, everyone was happy for ONE day. Then the next day after the drop the same people would go back to complaining and say they'll buy at the next drop.

Just stupid.

Soon enough the PS3 will be $200 and no one will buy it because by then it'll be old technology, and I doubt it'll end like the PS2 sadly, unless it gets that cheap with that many games that aren't crappy EA ports ;)

Basically there's no use in waiting anymore. It's not like it's launch date anymore with no good games and a high price tag. Buy it while the good stuff is fresh.

And when the next price drop comes, probably like $350, I can't see to many people complaining about that because that's what most people spent on a defective easy-bake oven (I don't mean to flame but most of the people that complain about the price rave about other or their console and how much cheaper it is, both ways) lol

Console prices aren't issues for me, it's about the games. I just bought a brand new Super Nintendo for $90 :)
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14. December 2008 @ 23:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ps3 needs to sink. u can get a BluRay player for 159 now. sooo. that advantage alone isn't a bargining chip.

and MGS4 came out in april. who the hell cares about that game now. its old as balls!

LBP didn't move any systems. the game looks retarded and from what i read the user created states are moderated to the point of nonexistence!

Sony has to drop the price on that thing down to 299 to at least compete. sinking 400 dollars in this lousy economy for a system that's not doing as well as 360 in terms of games, wont last to long.

thats just what i think.

Resistance 1 and 2 and another Uncharted game just arent gonna sell enough systems. just not gonna do it. how are you gonna go up against Gears Of War 2?

anyway. as long as they keep the PSP alive. i can give to schitts about the PS3.
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The one thing that really pisses me off is the fact that Sony is using their PS3 to push blu-ray in hopes to gain hardware sales. No one cares about Blu-ray, not for the time being at least. That's their biggest problem and it's too damn expensive. I have a PS3 because it was given to me as a gift, but I wouldn't buy another with my own money.

Commercials about blu-ray this, blu-ray that, PS3 internal blu-ray player, ECT on and on. We know that Sony beat HD-DVD, now they need to cool it and drop their ad campaigns of blu-ray. We understand that the PS3 has an internal blu-ray player, they are just becoming too predictable. What they should be focusing on is on expanding their library and producing quality games. Anyone can mass produce games, but are they worth wasting our time in playing and buying them? Quantity will beat quality sometimes, but the 360 has proven that quality will surpass quantity. I'm not talking about the 360's RROD. I'm mainly talking about the software. Everyone knows that the 360 has a high hardware failure rate, but that doesn't stop them from buying one. Games, it all comes down to the quality of games. That's why I own a 360. I'm not a fanboy. I'm just saying it how it is, whether we like it or not its the truth.
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In defense to the PS3, in order to get the Xbox 360 to be anything like the PS3 as far a features, you end up spending more than what the 160GB PS3 sells for. The Xbox doesn't have wireless built in, or a High Definition player, (the HD-DVD player is extra). The PS3 is WI-FI ready, and already has Blu-Ray built in. Plus the Xbox is pretty much running at capacity as far as hardware is concerned. The PS3 has an 8 core processor that is only using 7 cores. The GPU on the Xbox is also running a shared RAM system, unlike the PS3. Give it time, and the PS3 will be wiping the floor with XBOX due to the lacking hardware. Xbox will have to come out with a new system just to keep up.


all those reasons you listed are the reasons the ps3 is priced so much higher than its competitors and the reason why they are not selling ps3's like hotcakes.

Reality check..........u do a lot of talk about the cell processor and what is written down on paper but I like see less talk of capabilities and more performance shown. Really don't care about the graphics but I am tired of people saying the ps3 is more powerful. Note.....wasnot the saturn more powerful than the psone? Yep but bad design made it hard to program for the saturn. When ps3 games look so great that its like comparing the graphics on ps3/xbox360 to the lesser capable graphics of the wii, then tell me about what the ps3 can do.

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What and AWESOME RELIABLE source!

CNN is owned by Time Warner Company
Microsoft has 25% of Time Warner Company stock

You guys can connect the dots (^_^)
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Originally posted by gleone:
"WII is already dead to developers because they've decided not to make games for it, for the most part. You'll see Nintendo releasing the bulk of the WII games other than a few half-baked ports of top sellers like Madden, etc."
Which developers is it dead to? Those that cater to the hardcore? Probably. I think over 25 million units worldwide and still selling isn't something to overlook. They're NOT gonna run out of developers. The WII isn't "Hardcore" it's in another league and not worth comparing to XBOX and PS3. I'm going to assume most people don't play it everyday. It's mostly put away or gathering dust.. but when you have guests of different ages and backgrounds that's where it shines. I have the cheesy little WII sports game and bust-a-move. That's it. It all just sits quietly below my plasma next to my giant collection of XBOX games and a few PS3 games. But I find that when I have guests over, most want to play bowling on the WII. So I dust that baby off, fire it up, and we all swing that controller like idiots. I'll even show grandma what's up. She deserves no handicap so I drop strikes on her like Baghdad. Anyways, the stupid gimmicky WII name actually fits it's purpose.

I'm hardcore with the XBOX, less on PS3, and people friendly with the WII. Still, my weapon of choice is XBOX for killing friends online and talking s**t to them at work/school after. I only play PS3 online to own people I don't know personally because nobody owns it. OK, I have a few friends that own a PS3, but they never have any of the games I play online. PS3 is a sinking ship compared to PS2. I like some of the games, but for me I rather play co-op or against somebody I know and XBOX so far dominates online.
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Originally posted by kyo28:
What and AWESOME RELIABLE source!

CNN is owned by Time Warner Company
Microsoft has 25% of Time Warner Company stock

You guys can connect the dots (^_^)
I was going to say the same thing...

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Originally posted by kyo28:
What and AWESOME RELIABLE source!

CNN is owned by Time Warner Company
Microsoft has 25% of Time Warner Company stock

You guys can connect the dots (^_^)
Their views may be expressed in a biased way but their numbers their using to make their judgements out not lying(ndp gathered the info their basing their aritcle off). I do agree to those who said just a few months ago it was a battle between the 360 and ps3 and now its dead and over for the ps3. Its too early to say that and their views are exxagerated but the ps3 isnt looking so hot with its poor sales during peak sales season. Nothing matters in reference to the poor sales. High price is just an excuse for poor sales. As is the poor economy. The way i see it excuses satisfy the people who make them. All of the big 3 started on an equal playing field with the same goal and that is too sell the most console and make the most money. MS dicked up RROD trying to rush it out first that is their fault and nobody elses. PS3 misjudged the consumers wants and want to pay for the "premium" technology and Nintendo set out to do what they did. People need to stop excusing poor sales for the ps3 and referencing the rrod and other flaws of other consoles.If you want to talk about the wii sucking if thats your opinion (i agree), if you want to talk about the rrod and how unacceptable it is then do so(i agree) but dont sit here and say the numbers are cooked and so forth and so on. Because for some reason the only people saying that are saying in takin a stand for the ps3. It is what it is the ps3 is in last due to price and a slew of reasons that we could argue til we turned blue in the face. Its sony's job to figure out why it has poor sales and our right to talk about why it is that way. But its pointless for us bloggers/posters to say these numbers are cooked. 98% of information we recieve in life is filtered its a little over the top to go conspiracy theory on the console war.

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I once had a visit from Sony telling me to stop chipping their consoles cause it was losing them money. In those days they were top of the pile and making loads of money.

They can't blame the likes of me now. I'd suggest they leak a chip for the ps3 and watch it shoot to the top of the charts once again.

Oh they can come and see me again with an apology ;)
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Originally posted by kyo28:
What and AWESOME RELIABLE source!

CNN is owned by Time Warner Company
Microsoft has 25% of Time Warner Company stock

You guys can connect the dots (^_^)
Their views may be expressed in a biased way but their numbers their using to make their judgements out not lying(ndp gathered the info their basing their aritcle off). I do agree to those who said just a few months ago it was a battle between the 360 and ps3 and now its dead and over for the ps3. Its too early to say that and their views are exxagerated but the ps3 isnt looking so hot with its poor sales during peak sales season. Nothing matters in reference to the poor sales. High price is just an excuse for poor sales. As is the poor economy. The way i see it excuses satisfy the people who make them. All of the big 3 started on an equal playing field with the same goal and that is too sell the most console and make the most money. MS dicked up RROD trying to rush it out first that is their fault and nobody elses. PS3 misjudged the consumers wants and want to pay for the "premium" technology and Nintendo set out to do what they did. People need to stop excusing poor sales for the ps3 and referencing the rrod and other flaws of other consoles.If you want to talk about the wii sucking if thats your opinion (i agree), if you want to talk about the rrod and how unacceptable it is then do so(i agree) but dont sit here and say the numbers are cooked and so forth and so on. Because for some reason the only people saying that are saying in takin a stand for the ps3. It is what it is the ps3 is in last due to price and a slew of reasons that we could argue til we turned blue in the face. Its sony's job to figure out why it has poor sales and our right to talk about why it is that way. But its pointless for us bloggers/posters to say these numbers are cooked. 98% of information we recieve in life is filtered its a little over the top to go conspiracy theory on the console war.

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I agree as you stated all the consoles have their flaws comprimising sales.

Wii ---Lower end graphics and lacking some of the ps3/xbox360 games
xbox360---rushed and poor hardware design resulting in legend of RROD
PS3---Plagued by overpriced view of what sony thinks consumers want
caused by the Blueray drive, and cellprocessor(the most overhy-
ped chip to date)
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The same could be said about certain opinions which have no proof or basis behind them while others provide links, articles and valid numbers....me, I'd the rather proof whether it be actual sales figures (trusted on top of that) that support was is said or even if with my own eyes that with titles like Uncharted, MGS4, GT5P & Killzone 2 that definitely shows quite a bit of advancement over the competition. And yes that is directly because of a supposed "overhyped" processor ;) but to each his own.

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Originally posted by Oner:
The same could be said about certain opinions which have no proof or basis behind them while others provide links, articles and valid numbers....me, I'd the rather proof whether it be actual sales figures (trusted on top of that) that support was is said or even if with my own eyes that with titles like Uncharted, MGS4, GT5P & Killzone 2 that definitely shows quite a bit of advancement over the competition. And yes that is directly because of a supposed "overhyped" processor ;) but to each his own.
I guess that depends on what your definition of "quite a bit" is. You cant tell me that sony didnot hype that cellchip up saying how much more powerfull it was than the 360's processor. They didnot make it like it was just a bit more powerful but as they said a lot that is was almost twice as powerful.. None of those games you listed shows quite a bit of advancement that proof any of that to the extent that sony would have made the consumers believe.
I am not saying PS3 graphics on those particular titles are not better, they very well may be but sony hasnot proved themselve to the extent that they boasted. Please dont ask me to find proof that sony has stated that the PS3 would be almost twice as powerful as the xbox360 b/c you know it can be easily found from reliable sources. All i am saying is that as of this present date, sony stretched the truth b/c you know and everyone else out their that is a realist that the graphics on the two consoles are still comparable. I am not saying what might be down the road a year from now but if the graphics are not comparable(meaning close) and you can show proof that i am wrong i will surely admit my mistake and eat this entire laptop i am typeing on. LOL

Also wanted to note that Killzone 2 hasnot been released yet and usually we expect newer games to be released that may be better graphicwise than previous title dont we? Those other titles you listed, GT5P, uncharted, were both said to have beatiful graphics i agree, I did the research but not better than Gears of War. And as i stated earlier i am a realist and i have played MGS4 with my own hands and eyes in 1080p on a phillips HDTV and i admit i was impressed. I told my cousin those were the best graphics i had seen on a console to date. I keep it real, i am not going to lie about that. I just want you to do the same. But at the same time with me not playing those other titles in person i have read online from countless sites, reviews, people just like you saying they agreed that MGS4 was PS3 best graphics to date. I personally experience MGS4 for a week so i can say i have seen and played PS3's best graphics to date. Do you have any opinion that would argue with that?...........With that said MGS4 is still a comparable game to some of xbox360's best. It is not a huge leap in graphics but i keep it real enough to say i loved the graphics and to me they were cleaner, crisper and more detailed than anything i had seen period. That includes all PS3 games and xbox360 games. Those other title you listed, besides the unreleased killzone2, have great graphics but dont show an advancement over the competition as you stated. They are not on MGS4's level.

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I have all 3 systems. I know some people may have seen post this before. I play my PS3 daily, I also used to play my 360 daily, and as for the Wii since the 3rd week I owned it. I haven't touched it. I can agree with most on that Sony should put their console in a better price range of may $250 - $350. They don't need to keep upping the hard drive when people can purchase their own and put it in. It defeats the purpose of giving consumers that option. As for the PS3 online play, I enjoy it. Free is just for me period. I know some will agree and others will find some way that Free = crap. Most of the time the lags online are from whom ever is hosting that game. If they are using a connection that's in use else where in their local network then you'll see a drop off and it's not the servers fault or Sony's.

As for my 360 it has it's perks but between the RROD and pay M$ for gaming online. I haven't played it as hard as before. Yes there are more users on M$ XBL but that doesn't always mean because you pay it's better. All in all I like my PS3 better. I don't see the system sinking as the article said but I do believe Sony needs to be smart entering the new year. M$ already has the year lead. They need to get away from the Blu-Ray promotion and promote the console better.
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I have to agree.

I own a nintendo wii and a xbox 360.

I don't see a use for a ps3 at all.

Not only for blu-ray.

But for games as well.

I find it funny that this quote unquote console says it is the most powerful machine around if that where true then we wouldn't have to install 6 and 8 gig files on the hard drive of the console to get the performance from the software for that console.

Sure microsoft's xbox 360 gives you the option of installing the games to the hard drive using the nxe but you dont have to.

Where with the ps3 you have to.
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The PS3 has used only a small chunk of it's power where as the 360 is already maxed out is it not? From what people say...

According to Gamespot,"KillZone 2 has the best graphics of any console game to date".

The only problem with the PS3 is that programing for it is harder because of new tech. 360 apparently uses old stuff that the devs know how to work, like a pimped out PS2?

Then you have the lazy-ass devs like EA and some other losers that port their crappy games and make them look even crappier on a PS3 which makes the console look bad.

And just about every gaming site is biased towards 360 too...

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Originally posted by susieqbbb:

I find it funny that this quote unquote console says it is the most powerful machine around if that where true then we wouldn't have to install 6 and 8 gig files on the hard drive of the console to get the performance from the software for that console.

Sure microsoft's xbox 360 gives you the option of installing the games to the hard drive using the nxe but you dont have to.

Where with the ps3 you have to.
Well on the PS3 there's room to install the games and on most 360s there isn't. I don't see the problem.

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Originally posted by susieqbbb:
"I find it funny that this quote unquote console says it is the most powerful machine around if that where true then we wouldn't have to install 6 and 8 gig files on the hard drive of the console to get the performance from the software for that console.

Sure microsoft's xbox 360 gives you the option of installing the games to the hard drive using the nxe but you dont have to.

Where with the ps3 you have to."
This argument is getting as pathetic as RROD. RROD has in fact decreased, and an 120GB 2.5" HDD is as cheap as $60. At least I don't have pay $160 for the same size, and trust me, if I do happen to get a 360, I'll want the biggest HDD possible cause I'll be storing a heap load of games on it. And that for me is mandatory. Who knows, I might get a solid state drive for my PS3 in the future to see load times for some games decrease.


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Originally posted by lxhotboy:
Originally posted by Oner:
The same could be said about certain opinions which have no proof or basis behind them while others provide links, articles and valid numbers....me, I'd the rather proof whether it be actual sales figures (trusted on top of that) that support was is said or even if with my own eyes that with titles like Uncharted, MGS4, GT5P & Killzone 2 that definitely shows quite a bit of advancement over the competition. And yes that is directly because of a supposed "overhyped" processor ;) but to each his own.
I guess that depends on what your definition of "quite a bit" is. You cant tell me that sony didnot hype that cellchip up saying how much more powerfull it was than the 360's processor. They didnot make it like it was just a bit more powerful but as they said a lot that is was almost twice as powerful.. None of those games you listed shows quite a bit of advancement that proof any of that to the extent that sony would have made the consumers believe.
I am not saying PS3 graphics on those particular titles are not better, they very well may be but sony hasnot proved themselve to the extent that they boasted. Please dont ask me to find proof that sony has stated that the PS3 would be almost twice as powerful as the xbox360 b/c you know it can be easily found from reliable sources. All i am saying is that as of this present date, sony stretched the truth b/c you know and everyone else out their that is a realist that the graphics on the two consoles are still comparable. I am not saying what might be down the road a year from now but if the graphics are not comparable(meaning close) and you can show proof that i am wrong i will surely admit my mistake and eat this entire laptop i am typeing on. LOL

Also wanted to note that Killzone 2 hasnot been released yet and usually we expect newer games to be released that may be better graphicwise than previous title dont we? Those other titles you listed, GT5P, uncharted, were both said to have beatiful graphics i agree, I did the research but not better than Gears of War. And as i stated earlier i am a realist and i have played MGS4 with my own hands and eyes in 1080p on a phillips HDTV and i admit i was impressed. I told my cousin those were the best graphics i had seen on a console to date. I keep it real, i am not going to lie about that. I just want you to do the same. But at the same time with me not playing those other titles in person i have read online from countless sites, reviews, people just like you saying they agreed that MGS4 was PS3 best graphics to date. I personally experience MGS4 for a week so i can say i have seen and played PS3's best graphics to date. Do you have any opinion that would argue with that?...........With that said MGS4 is still a comparable game to some of xbox360's best. It is not a huge leap in graphics but i keep it real enough to say i loved the graphics and to me they were cleaner, crisper and more detailed than anything i had seen period. That includes all PS3 games and xbox360 games. Those other title you listed, besides the unreleased killzone2, have great graphics but dont show an advancement over the competition as you stated. They are not on MGS4's level.

Morreale basically explained what I would have but as for Uncharted







And those where captured using a digital camera OFF of an HDTV...there where quite a few gaming sites that said it was the best graphically & gameplay wise on ANY system at the time (yet somehow it didn't win anything).

And some for GT5P which hands down there is absolutely nothing that comes close to that on a console, hell I would even go as far as PC...but I know I will get reamed for that remark ;)







Now that is not to say these games (even MGS4) are way beyond anything in comparison as I have seen faults in them (and many other titles for all platforms) but it is hard to agree with how these titles have been "downplayed" so much.

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Quote:
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Originally posted by kyo28:
What and AWESOME RELIABLE source!

CNN is owned by Time Warner Company
Microsoft has 25% of Time Warner Company stock

You guys can connect the dots (^_^)
Their views may be expressed in a biased way but their numbers their using to make their judgements out not lying(ndp gathered the info their basing their aritcle off). I do agree to those who said just a few months ago it was a battle between the 360 and ps3 and now its dead and over for the ps3. Its too early to say that and their views are exxagerated but the ps3 isnt looking so hot with its poor sales during peak sales season. Nothing matters in reference to the poor sales. High price is just an excuse for poor sales. As is the poor economy. The way i see it excuses satisfy the people who make them. All of the big 3 started on an equal playing field with the same goal and that is too sell the most console and make the most money. MS dicked up RROD trying to rush it out first that is their fault and nobody elses. PS3 misjudged the consumers wants and want to pay for the "premium" technology and Nintendo set out to do what they did. People need to stop excusing poor sales for the ps3 and referencing the rrod and other flaws of other consoles.If you want to talk about the wii sucking if thats your opinion (i agree), if you want to talk about the rrod and how unacceptable it is then do so(i agree) but dont sit here and say the numbers are cooked and so forth and so on. Because for some reason the only people saying that are saying in takin a stand for the ps3. It is what it is the ps3 is in last due to price and a slew of reasons that we could argue til we turned blue in the face. Its sony's job to figure out why it has poor sales and our right to talk about why it is that way. But its pointless for us bloggers/posters to say these numbers are cooked. 98% of information we recieve in life is filtered its a little over the top to go conspiracy theory on the console war.

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I agree as you stated all the consoles have their flaws comprimising sales.

Wii ---Lower end graphics and lacking some of the ps3/xbox360 games
xbox360---rushed and poor hardware design resulting in legend of RROD
PS3---Plagued by overpriced view of what sony thinks consumers want
caused by the Blueray drive, and cellprocessor(the most overhy-
ped chip to date)


the question what does rrod stand for.
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Originally posted by Oner:
And some for GT5P which hands down there is absolutely nothing that comes close to that on a console, hell I would even go as far as PC...but I know I will get reamed for that remark ;)






I forgot about GT5P lol

I showed my dad and my friends (diehard 360 fanboys, jealous of my PS3 ;]) the game and they thought the cars in the intro movie and in-game were real :P

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Originally posted by wolf123:
the question what does rrod stand for.
Red Ring of Death

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Originally posted by Morreale:
I forgot about GT5P lol

I showed my dad and my friends (diehard 360 fanboys, jealous of my PS3 ;]) the game and they thought the cars in the intro movie and in-game were real :P
You liked those then you will like these...



















Sorry for the size of the pics but I just found them.

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