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lfcgazza
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30. December 2008 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,
im a newbie to this site, but i am a member of many forums and have been for quite some time....so hopefully i wont piss anybody off with silly questions.....or will i??
I have read quite a few posts on a few differnet sites to try and answer my query.....but no luck nailing the problem down....so here goes......
i have a chipped wii console (PAL i believe) with a Wiikey V2 soldered in it (the latest chip?!?)
I have burnt many downloaded ISO's from newsgroups with varying degrees of success....im now getting slightly pissed off now because some work and some dont!!!
here is a list of burns i have made in the order they were done...
the writers are ..Lite-On SHW 1635S and Pioneer DVR 110D (firmware 1.41)
all discs were burnt successfully but either were or were not recognised on the Wii

DNW = did not work
SUC = success

Family Party (PAL), Datawrite Mach 4, Pioneer, IMGBURN, x4, DNW
Family Party (PAL), Datawrite Mach 4, Pioneer, Nero, x4, DNW
Mario Olympics (PAL), Datawrite Mach 4, Lite-On, Nero, x6, DNW
Mario Olympics (PAL), Datawrite Mach 4, Pioneer, Nero, x4, SUC
Kung Fu Panda (PAL), Datawrite Mach 4, Pioneer, Nero, x4, DNW
Leg of Zelda (PAL), Datawrite Mach 4, Lite-On, Nero, x6, DNW
Pro Evo 2008 (PAL), Datawrite Mach 4, Pioneer, Nero, x4, DNW
Family Party (PAL), Unbranded, Pioneer, Nero, x4, DNW
Family Party (PAL), Verb AZO x16, Pioneer, Nero, x4, DNW
Carnival Mini-Golf(PAL), Verb AZO x16,Lite-On, Nero, x6, DNW
Bomberman Land (PAL), Verb AZO x16, Pioneer, IMGBURN, x4, SUC
Carnival Min-Golf (PAL), Verb AZO x16, Pioneer, IMGBURN, x4, DNW
Brunswick Bowling (PAL), Verb AZO x16, Pioneer, IMGBURN, x4, SUC
Mario Galaxy (NTSC), Verb AZO x16, Pioneer, IMGBURN, x4, SUC
waaaahhhoooooooooooo 2 on the trot....
Safari Africa (PAL), Verb AZO x16, Pioneer, IMGBURN, x4, DNW
Sonic Unleashed (PAL), Verb AZO x16, Pioneer, IMGBURN, x4, DNW

so so far 12 coasters with just 4 successful.......
any help would be greatly appreciated...
apologies for the long post......

Gazza!!!

i have no idea what im doing...but i will get there!!!
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lfcgazza
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30. December 2008 @ 15:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
do i need to patch these first with wiibrick blocker by anychance??
if so. why?
many thanks
Gazza!!!

i have no idea what im doing...but i will get there!!!
LoKo498
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30. December 2008 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Should we use the WiiBrickBlocker_v1_3R2 for everygame just incase?
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30. December 2008 @ 15:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what firmware is your wii? If any of the games are "trucha signed" they will not work on 3.3 or later FW. There is no way of knowing if the discs are trucha when you DL them. Also, many people on the forum suggest using verbatim discs at 4x with imgburn, that usually equals success. ---Chikn
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30. December 2008 @ 16:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a 3.2 FW Wii chipped with a wiikey, and I have the same problem. Games that do no work, I run them with Backup Loader from the Homebrew Channel. I guess it depends on the type of game downloaded, wether it's for a chipped wii or for Backup Loader. I am probably wrong...

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lfcgazza
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1. January 2009 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi again,
after a couple of days on the beer.....i tried the wiibrickblocker on one of the iso's i had tried to burn before (Family Party), burned the disc....and............hey presto it worked.........
i have used wiibrickblocker on every iso i had downloaded and have now succesfully burned 6 games on the bounce............just need more iso's to download....
so i recommend you use wiibrickblocker v1.32r on every iso !!!!
happy gaming
Gazza!!!

i have no idea what im doing...but i will get there!!!
lfcgazza
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1. January 2009 @ 12:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ChiknLitl:
what firmware is your wii? If any of the games are "trucha signed" they will not work on 3.3 or later FW. There is no way of knowing if the discs are trucha when you DL them. Also, many people on the forum suggest using verbatim discs at 4x with imgburn, that usually equals success. ---Chikn

have not checked....
can i still update the wii firmware??
i have a wiikey c2 soldered....
thanks
Gazza!!!

i have no idea what im doing...but i will get there!!!
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1. January 2009 @ 15:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know if discs with brick blocker will work on Wii FW 3.3 or higher, someone else can probably answer that. Does Brickblocker trucha sign the disc? Either way you should be able to get around the trucha signing by running them through GeckoOS. Do you have HBC installed? If so have you tried to run any of the "bad" burns through GeckoOS? That may give some insight as to whether it's a bad burn or a funny rip.

I wonder if the Wiikey 2, D2Pro and other chips with system update blocking stop discs with updates from even checking what FW the Wii is at and then the disc won't run. I have a D2Pro for D2E with the latest FW and US Wii at FW 3.3 but I haven't had any trouble so my theory might be shot.
lfcgazza
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2. January 2009 @ 03:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi chiknltl,
im not sure what you mean about geckoOS...im assuming this is some homebrew? Anyway since my last post i have downloaded and burnt a further 4 games without a problem...so all i can say is that the problem must have been in the updating.....
think i read somewhere that the wii firmware updates wouldn't affect the chip installed, but i aint taking any chances (until i read something to the contrary)
all the best
Gazza!!!

i have no idea what im doing...but i will get there!!!
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2. January 2009 @ 11:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So far no updates effect or detect our mod chips. GeckoOS is an application you can use in the HomeBrew Channel to launch game discs and other games. Glad to hear you got it working consistently. ---Chikn
lfcgazza
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7. January 2009 @ 05:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi Chikn,
i have found that im on firmware 3.2E with wiikey version 2 chip....
is there any point updating the firmware???
do i really need to use wiibrickblocker if updates dont effect the chips?
many thanks
Gazza!!!

i have no idea what im doing...but i will get there!!!
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7. January 2009 @ 08:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I believe you only need to use brickblocker if you play out of region games, PAL if your Wii is NTSC, or vise-versa. The Wiikey 2 has a system update blocking feature as well. There are a couple of newer games out now that will update you to 3.4 FW but I think there are work arounds, otherwise no real benefit. ---Chikn
lfcgazza
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7. January 2009 @ 10:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ChiknLitl:
I believe you only need to use brickblocker if you play out of region games, PAL if your Wii is NTSC, or vise-versa. The Wiikey 2 has a system update blocking feature as well. There are a couple of newer games out now that will update you to 3.4 FW but I think there are work arounds, otherwise no real benefit. ---Chikn

just to clear things in my head (very small...thatz why it needs clearing)....
will the games i burnt without using wiibrickblocker actually work then??.....if i put these in the wii in the disc channel it says "Wii update" or something....can i run them if i update?
Gazza!!!

i have no idea what im doing...but i will get there!!!
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7. January 2009 @ 14:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, if the games are from your region it is SAFE to update. That is not to say that you WANT to update. If you are at FW 3.2 and the game has a 3.4 update you may not want to update to 3.4. If you are at 3.2 and the game has a 3.2 update on it the game will notify you that you need to update the first time you put it in, it will search for the update, then once it finds that the system is already at 3.2 it will move on to the game loading screen. It's good to know what games have what updates on them. Do not update with an out of region game. You can Brick your Wii. ---Chikn
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lfcgazza
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7. January 2009 @ 17:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ChiknLitl:
Well, if the games are from your region it is SAFE to update. That is not to say that you WANT to update. If you are at FW 3.2 and the game has a 3.4 update you may not want to update to 3.4. If you are at 3.2 and the game has a 3.2 update on it the game will notify you that you need to update the first time you put it in, it will search for the update, then once it finds that the system is already at 3.2 it will move on to the game loading screen. It's good to know what games have what updates on them. Do not update with an out of region game. You can Brick your Wii. ---Chikn

thanx for your input.....on that i think i will play it safe and not bother updating at all....those discs r in the bin and wiibrickblocker has pride and place on my desktop ready for the next ISO
cheers
Gazza!!!

i have no idea what im doing...but i will get there!!!
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