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Which Should I Buy? PS3 or XBOX 360?
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11. January 2009 @ 22:52 |
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Originally posted by skysniper:
Originally posted by Smurff:
i own both, and the graphics on the 360 are better.
most games on ps3 only support 720p where ass almost every game on 360 supports 1080p and usually at worst 1080i.
oner, you forgot to mention ps3 bluray drive failure rate, bricked consoles from botched updates, etc. etc.
$50 a year isn't horribly bad for using xbox live gold, but the PSN is free, both cost money for extra content, game packs and what not....
it's a personal choice really, but like it was mentioned before there are alot of cross platform games and some exclusive games, perhaps think of what your looking for in the long run.
ps3 are in HD, and wtf do u mean blueray drive failures, i have heard no probs about the drive, ur making stuff up, and then over heating, the 360 has that all covered, i bearly get lukewarm from my ps3, yet i feel my friends 360 and i can practicly can roast a marshmallow over it. and bricked consoles, the 360 ahs the highest failure rate, the 360 has been noted as the disposable console.
DUDE GO FOR PS3, it plays bluera, games have more content (bc 50 gb can fit on a BD disc) wide media center, no over heating, and u got home (its ok for socializing, not daily basis) custumizable themes (i made my own :D ), dont rly waorry baout the whole HD thing and grphics, they are basicly the same, and both have 1080P output, (also my friend has been thru 2 360s already)
~>skysniper~> you retarded or something? 720p is HD, so is 1080i and 1080p. I made the statement about game supported quality based on reading the back of the game boxes.
the ps3 does get hot dumbass, lift it up and feel the shelf under it after you power it off. oh and FYI here's the thread on BD-drive problems > http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/672905 since you can't read well i linked it for you.
as for disc size, there's something called compression, 9GB is fine to fit titles on jacknuts, lets see PS2 on average used under 4.7GB on a disc, the Xbox 360 uses under 9GB, the PS3 would require a smaller amount if they used better compression and utilize storage space.
before someone goes and claims 'fanboy' for either unit, look at my profile and you can see console history so there is no fanboyism. so quit making your own sh!t up.
~>Taurus~>, since your not really into online gaming then that can be factored out, so it would come down to gaming and/or other functionality (ie. BD or not), both units can be networked w/ home PC's to access media. ps3 has built in B/G wireless, 360 doesn't. both support RJ45 if u don't have wireless. if your interested in backup games, then the 360 is the only choice, as you can't on ps3.
hope some of this helps out, hopefully you have a HDTV or something so you could atleast take advantage of the graphics.
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Originally posted by Smurff:
~>skysniper~> you retarded or something? 720p is HD, so is 1080i and 1080p. I made the statement about game supported quality based on reading the back of the game boxes.
the ps3 does get hot dumbass, lift it up and feel the shelf under it after you power it off. oh and FYI here's the thread on BD-drive problems > http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/672905 since you can't read well i linked it for you.
as for disc size, there's something called compression, 9GB is fine to fit titles on jacknuts, lets see PS2 on average used under 4.7GB on a disc, the Xbox 360 uses under 9GB, the PS3 would require a smaller amount if they used better compression and utilize storage space.
1.) Yes, it WAS an idiotic post, but dun' worry about it.
2.) I thought the whole thing about how many 1080p games each system has was covered in the previous page? Someone said something about Microsoft listing games as 1080p even if those games are simply being upscaled to that resolution whereas Sony listing games' native resolutions, and those being 1080p actually BEING 1080p.
3.) Yes, the PS3 gets hot, but don't take it so literally. The guy's being... well... and as for your statement, that's a very subjective statement. I personally only feel hot air coming out from the vents; everywhere else on the unit is fairly cool.
4.) Your statement about PS3 disc sizes is also misleading. The PS2 and Xbox both use regular DVDs (dual-layer? That I'm not sure about), so of course the usual filesize is less than 4.7 GB. In the same way, the 360 uses almost exclusively dual-layer DVDs, so of course the filesize is under 9 GB. As for the PS3, though, the usual size is about the same. There's a lot more space to be used with Blu-Ray, but that doesn't mean that all of it's being used. More often than not, most game data takes up the same amount of space as their counterparts on the 360. (I could be wrong on this, though, so feel free to correct me.) The only PS3 games I know that exceed that DL-DVD limit are exclusive titles like Resistance, Uncharted, and, of course, Metal Gear Solid 4.
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I still don't know what you're talking about... but whatever, I guess..
Yes, exactly. :)
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Originally posted by Smurff:
Originally posted by skysniper:
Originally posted by Smurff:
i own both, and the graphics on the 360 are better.
most games on ps3 only support 720p where ass almost every game on 360 supports 1080p and usually at worst 1080i.
oner, you forgot to mention ps3 bluray drive failure rate, bricked consoles from botched updates, etc. etc.
$50 a year isn't horribly bad for using xbox live gold, but the PSN is free, both cost money for extra content, game packs and what not....
it's a personal choice really, but like it was mentioned before there are alot of cross platform games and some exclusive games, perhaps think of what your looking for in the long run.
ps3 are in HD, and wtf do u mean blueray drive failures, i have heard no probs about the drive, ur making stuff up, and then over heating, the 360 has that all covered, i bearly get lukewarm from my ps3, yet i feel my friends 360 and i can practicly can roast a marshmallow over it. and bricked consoles, the 360 ahs the highest failure rate, the 360 has been noted as the disposable console.
DUDE GO FOR PS3, it plays bluera, games have more content (bc 50 gb can fit on a BD disc) wide media center, no over heating, and u got home (its ok for socializing, not daily basis) custumizable themes (i made my own :D ), dont rly waorry baout the whole HD thing and grphics, they are basicly the same, and both have 1080P output, (also my friend has been thru 2 360s already)
~>skysniper~> you retarded or something? 720p is HD, so is 1080i and 1080p. I made the statement about game supported quality based on reading the back of the game boxes.
the ps3 does get hot dumbass, lift it up and feel the shelf under it after you power it off. oh and FYI here's the thread on BD-drive problems > http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/672905 since you can't read well i linked it for you.
as for disc size, there's something called compression, 9GB is fine to fit titles on jacknuts, lets see PS2 on average used under 4.7GB on a disc, the Xbox 360 uses under 9GB, the PS3 would require a smaller amount if they used better compression and utilize storage space.
before someone goes and claims 'fanboy' for either unit, look at my profile and you can see console history so there is no fanboyism. so quit making your own sh!t up.
~>Taurus~>, since your not really into online gaming then that can be factored out, so it would come down to gaming and/or other functionality (ie. BD or not), both units can be networked w/ home PC's to access media. ps3 has built in B/G wireless, 360 doesn't. both support RJ45 if u don't have wireless. if your interested in backup games, then the 360 is the only choice, as you can't on ps3.
hope some of this helps out, hopefully you have a HDTV or something so you could atleast take advantage of the graphics.
Smurff, I appreciate your reply. However, even though you admit that your opinion is not born out of fanboyism, your post does in fact lean heavily towards the 360 while bashing the PS3. This is evident in my not being able to find one favorable thing you've said about the PS3. I am not trying to make you my enemy, nor am I trying to tip the scales in favor of the PS3; but I do believe in fairness. Thanks, man.
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12. January 2009 @ 08:01 |
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Originally posted by Smurff:
Originally posted by skysniper:
Originally posted by Smurff:
i own both, and the graphics on the 360 are better.
most games on ps3 only support 720p where ass almost every game on 360 supports 1080p and usually at worst 1080i.
oner, you forgot to mention ps3 bluray drive failure rate, bricked consoles from botched updates, etc. etc.
$50 a year isn't horribly bad for using xbox live gold, but the PSN is free, both cost money for extra content, game packs and what not....
it's a personal choice really, but like it was mentioned before there are alot of cross platform games and some exclusive games, perhaps think of what your looking for in the long run.
ps3 are in HD, and wtf do u mean blueray drive failures, i have heard no probs about the drive, ur making stuff up, and then over heating, the 360 has that all covered, i bearly get lukewarm from my ps3, yet i feel my friends 360 and i can practicly can roast a marshmallow over it. and bricked consoles, the 360 ahs the highest failure rate, the 360 has been noted as the disposable console.
DUDE GO FOR PS3, it plays bluera, games have more content (bc 50 gb can fit on a BD disc) wide media center, no over heating, and u got home (its ok for socializing, not daily basis) custumizable themes (i made my own :D ), dont rly waorry baout the whole HD thing and grphics, they are basicly the same, and both have 1080P output, (also my friend has been thru 2 360s already)
~>skysniper~> you retarded or something? 720p is HD, so is 1080i and 1080p. I made the statement about game supported quality based on reading the back of the game boxes.
the ps3 does get hot dumbass, lift it up and feel the shelf under it after you power it off. oh and FYI here's the thread on BD-drive problems > http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/672905 since you can't read well i linked it for you.
as for disc size, there's something called compression, 9GB is fine to fit titles on jacknuts, lets see PS2 on average used under 4.7GB on a disc, the Xbox 360 uses under 9GB, the PS3 would require a smaller amount if they used better compression and utilize storage space.
before someone goes and claims 'fanboy' for either unit, look at my profile and you can see console history so there is no fanboyism. so quit making your own sh!t up.
~>Taurus~>, since your not really into online gaming then that can be factored out, so it would come down to gaming and/or other functionality (ie. BD or not), both units can be networked w/ home PC's to access media. ps3 has built in B/G wireless, 360 doesn't. both support RJ45 if u don't have wireless. if your interested in backup games, then the 360 is the only choice, as you can't on ps3.
hope some of this helps out, hopefully you have a HDTV or something so you could atleast take advantage of the graphics.
im based my post on wat i have seen, and if u wanna be an ass about it go ahead 360 fanboy, i hope u get hit by a retard riding a bike.
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Originally posted by skysniper:
im based my post on wat i have seen, and if u wanna be an ass about it go ahead 360 fanboy, i hope u get hit by a retard riding a bike.
I'd recommend getting back off that high horse, cease the insults and quit the annoying text speak. Comments like these are the reason comparison threads are always very short-lived.
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Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by skysniper:
im based my post on wat i have seen, and if u wanna be an ass about it go ahead 360 fanboy, i hope u get hit by a retard riding a bike.
I'd recommend getting back off that high horse, cease the insults and quit the annoying text speak. Comments like these are the reason comparison threads are always very short-lived.
srry, i just hait when fanboys react like that, the have no self control.
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12. January 2009 @ 17:06 |
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Dude, look at your own posts first. There's no need to freak out like that, especially when your original post is just as flamboyant and fanboyish as the response to it. Just chillax a bit, yeah?
That said, though, I DO notice that my brother's 360 has been sent to Microsoft about... three times now? which is amazing, considering that our launch SNES lasted 'til the PSOne, the launch PSOne lasted 'til the PS2, the launch PS2 lasted 'til the PS3, and even the Xbox lasted until the 360... and still works (can't say the same for the PS2, though... too many good times, I s'pose).
Granted, we've had the 360 for about a year now (compared to half a year for the PS3), so it's had a longer time to freak out, but still... in only a year, it's gone through three swaps, whereas the PS3 hasn't gone through a single repair.
...but watch. The moment I post this, the PS3'll dissolve into a million pieces or something. :/
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12. January 2009 @ 17:16 |
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Originally posted by skysniper:
Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by skysniper:
im based my post on wat i have seen, and if u wanna be an ass about it go ahead 360 fanboy, i hope u get hit by a retard riding a bike.
I'd recommend getting back off that high horse, cease the insults and quit the annoying text speak. Comments like these are the reason comparison threads are always very short-lived.
srry, i just hait when fanboys react like that, the have no self control.
just if i missed this, i was in a rush looking at my posts, but if if u refered to the high horse as the bike, *bleep*.
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Originally posted by KajNrig:
Dude, look at your own posts first. There's no need to freak out like that, especially when your original post is just as flamboyant and fanboyish as the response to it. Just chillax a bit, yeah?
That said, though, I DO notice that my brother's 360 has been sent to Microsoft about... three times now? which is amazing, considering that our launch SNES lasted 'til the PSOne, the launch PSOne lasted 'til the PS2, the launch PS2 lasted 'til the PS3, and even the Xbox lasted until the 360... and still works (can't say the same for the PS2, though... too many good times, I s'pose).
Granted, we've had the 360 for about a year now (compared to half a year for the PS3), so it's had a longer time to freak out, but still... in only a year, it's gone through three swaps, whereas the PS3 hasn't gone through a single repair.
...but watch. The moment I post this, the PS3'll dissolve into a million pieces or something. :/
true true the old consoles lasted longer then anythign else, and ur lucky for anything to last for more then a month or so. (had ps2 and a ps1)
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12. January 2009 @ 17:55 |
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Originally posted by skysniper:
Originally posted by skysniper:
Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by skysniper:
im based my post on wat i have seen, and if u wanna be an ass about it go ahead 360 fanboy, i hope u get hit by a retard riding a bike.
I'd recommend getting back off that high horse, cease the insults and quit the annoying text speak. Comments like these are the reason comparison threads are always very short-lived.
srry, i just hait when fanboys react like that, the have no self control.
just if i missed this, i was in a rush looking at my posts, but if if u refered to the high horse as the bike, *bleep*.
And people wounder why these threads get locked before they get started.
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I'm actually having quite a lot of fun with this thread.
It's like watching a ram fight a brick wall.
...which made me realize that we didn't register one detail: backwards compatibility.
Sure, PS2 is no longer a go (be it through hardware OR software emulation), but there's still full PSOne emulation possible on the PS3. On the 360, you've got software emulation for original Xbox titles. If either of those two points plays a lot in your decision, then there you go.
And if you DO want PS2 backwards compatibility, then you can always score an older-model PS3 off of Ebay (either the 60GB, 20GB, or 80GB, correct?). I remember you saying that you had a PS2, so you might still want to play those games.
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yea, 360 and wii are only consoles that can play old games, stupid sony had to get rid of ps2/ps1 compatibility, and get rid of 2 usb ports and the card readers.
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Originally posted by skysniper:
yea, 360 and wii are only consoles that can play old games, stupid sony had to get rid of ps2/ps1 compatibility, and get rid of 2 usb ports and the card readers.
That doesn't make sense what Sony did. Why did they decide to do that?
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Originally posted by taurusxx5:
Originally posted by skysniper:
yea, 360 and wii are only consoles that can play old games, stupid sony had to get rid of ps2/ps1 compatibility, and get rid of 2 usb ports and the card readers.
That doesn't make sense what Sony did. Why did they decide to do that?
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i think they did it to drop the price, i think the alst ps3 with all the works was the motorstrom bundle.
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...uh, PSOne emulation is still all there, as I just mentioned. It uses software emulation and it works very well, from what few titles I've played on it.
As for PS2 emulation, though, yes, there's no more backwards compatibility. The hardware emulation I could understand, seeing as how the Emotion Engine was just too cost-ineffective, but software emulation shouldn't be that hard to implement. There's always the slim possibility that Sony'll release a download through firmware updates (like with Home) or something, but still... it shouldn't be that big of an issue to just ship the software with the new systems. Maybe it's got something to do with RSX/Cell access that we don't know about?
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Originally posted by KajNrig:
Software emulation shouldn't be that hard to implement. There's always the slim possibility that Sony'll release a download through firmware updates (like with Home) or something, but still... it shouldn't be that big of an issue to just ship the software with the new systems. Maybe it's got something to do with RSX/Cell access that we don't know about?
That was the rumor awhile ago anyway, I doubt they'd get rid of bwc completely without having a plan as I'm sure they're going to want to sell ps2 games over the PS store. It's likely they're working on it though god knows when or if it will come to light.
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i beleive if they do release them (ps2 games) over the PSN it'll be ported similar to stuff that Xbox does (Xbox Originals Downloads). It is kind of dumb to ditch the BWC, but then again it's not entirely needed, NES/SNES didn't have BCW nor did N64 or GC....nor SegaCD/Sega Saturn...but that's neither here nor there.
OriginalPoster>if you'd clarify more what your current setup is, and perhaps what is most important to you it'd be easier for people to help guide you into which system would be best for you.
the PS3's w/ PS2 BWC are:
[NTSC]20GB (Model #s CECHBxx) No Wifi, No Card Readers, Hardware PS2 Emulation, 4 USB Ports, SACD support
[NTSC]60GB (Model #s CECHAxx) Wifi, Card Readers, Hardware PS2 Emulation, 4 USB Ports, SACD support
[PAL]60GB (Model #s CECHCxx) Wifi, Card Readers, Software PS2 Emulation, 4 USB Ports, SACD support
[NTSC]80GB (Model #s CECHExx) Wifi, Card Readers, Software PS2 Emulation, 4 USB Ports, SACD support
sll other model #s are not reported to have PS2 BWC.
I don't have a ps3 that has BWC for ps2, but i use my ps2 for the games i still have for it. hope that info helps anyone who's curious.
EDIT> those models #s are no longer in production, but you can still find them around; the model #s now in production (80GBs) no longer support Ps2 BWC.
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Originally posted by Smurff:
i beleive if they do release them (ps2 games) over the PSN it'll be ported similar to stuff that Xbox does (Xbox Originals Downloads). It is kind of dumb to ditch the BWC, but then again it's not entirely needed, NES/SNES didn't have BCW nor did N64 or GC....nor SegaCD/Sega Saturn...but that's neither here nor there.
OriginalPoster>if you'd clarify more what your current setup is, and perhaps what is most important to you it'd be easier for people to help guide you into which system would be best for you.
the PS3's w/ PS2 BWC are:
[NTSC]20GB (Model #s CECHBxx) No Wifi, No Card Readers, Hardware PS2 Emulation, 4 USB Ports, SACD support
[NTSC]60GB (Model #s CECHAxx) Wifi, Card Readers, Hardware PS2 Emulation, 4 USB Ports, SACD support
[PAL]60GB (Model #s CECHCxx) Wifi, Card Readers, Software PS2 Emulation, 4 USB Ports, SACD support
[NTSC]80GB (Model #s CECHExx) Wifi, Card Readers, Software PS2 Emulation, 4 USB Ports, SACD support
sll other model #s are not reported to have PS2 BWC.
I don't have a ps3 that has BWC for ps2, but i use my ps2 for the games i still have for it. hope that info helps anyone who's curious.
EDIT> those models are no longer in production, but you can still find them around.
80gb's are still in production but are stripped of the bwc now, the last bwc 80 gigs were the ones bundled with mgs4.
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I own both the PS3 and the Xbox 360. At the moment I play the 360 a lot more, but both of them are great consoles. I'm pretty sure if you get either one you will be pleased. Flip a coin and get after it.
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Originally posted by Brily:
I own both the PS3 and the Xbox 360. At the moment I play the 360 a lot more, but both of them are great consoles. I'm pretty sure if you get either one you will be pleased. Flip a coin and get after it.
My decision in buying a console can't be simplified into "flippping a coin". It's not as easy as that. A lot of factors must be weighed before arriving at an intelligent answer.
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Originally posted by taurusxx5:
Originally posted by Brily:
I own both the PS3 and the Xbox 360. At the moment I play the 360 a lot more, but both of them are great consoles. I'm pretty sure if you get either one you will be pleased. Flip a coin and get after it.
My decision in buying a console can't be simplified into "flippping a coin". It's not as easy as that. A lot of factors must be weighed before arriving at an intelligent answer.
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What are the big factors you are weighing? Here is a solution: Buy them both.
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Originally posted by Brily:
Originally posted by taurusxx5:
Originally posted by Brily:
I own both the PS3 and the Xbox 360. At the moment I play the 360 a lot more, but both of them are great consoles. I'm pretty sure if you get either one you will be pleased. Flip a coin and get after it.
My decision in buying a console can't be simplified into "flippping a coin". It's not as easy as that. A lot of factors must be weighed before arriving at an intelligent answer.
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What are the big factors you are weighing? Here is a solution: Buy them both.
Brily, even though I do appreciate your reply, what you said was real gay.
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Originally posted by taurusxx5:
what you said was real gay.
Comments like that that reveal a lot about a poster.
Is there a reason to keep this thread open any longer ?. If you want to make an 'informed' decision you would be better off reading a handful of the latest console threads in the News forum. Plus just look at what games are available/going to be available/what games you want to play and buy that console.
Plus you could read the umpteen previous PS3 vs Xbox 360 'threads'. ..and take note that they're probably all closed..
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Hey, now. There are some gay people around here, y'know. Like me.
...nah, not really, but still, no need to whip that out.
And Oner's got a point. If you haven't come to a decision by now, then what was the point of this thread? If you list some criteria for purchase - like lasting value (questionable...), quantity and quality of RPG/shooter/action/horror games, etc. - then it'll be easier to give you a straighter answer than "Well, the PS3 does this, but the 360 does this."
But yeah, I think this thread should've answered most of your questions regarding each system by now.
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Originally posted by creaky:
Originally posted by Brily:
My decision in buying a console can't be simplified into "flippping a coin". It's not as easy as that. A lot of factors must be weighed before arriving at an intelligent answer.
Comments like that that reveal a lot about a poster.
Is there a reason to keep this thread open any longer ?. If you want to make an 'informed' decision you would be better off reading a handful of the latest console threads in the News forum. Plus just look at what games are available/going to be available/what games you want to play and buy that console.
Plus you could read the umpteen previous PS3 vs Xbox 360 'threads'. ..and take note that they're probably all closed..
Yes I do agree... comments like the one Brily said do reveal alot about him as a poster.
And posters like him are also the reason why threads are closed. Brily, why don't you stop making these comments and behave like a normal human being? We all appreciates your comments but you gotz to stop makin' them negative comments that make other peoples mad. Seriously though my brova!
Now check it... I understand a bit of sarcasm does break the ice in a forum every now and then, but you can't make comments like "flip a coin between a ps3 and 360". Doing so will make others look and respond to you funny. Come on now, brova... seriously! Even though Obama is in office, there's still racism by white devils, america is falling, we're in an economic depression, etc. Now is not the time to be horsing around. People want the best bang for the buck. We don't need more bs than what's been handed to us already. I'm not singling you out or nuffin, but I'm just lookin' out for you... and if you want, you can email me so we can just chill. Appreciates your reply my brova, but keep it clean, ya heard!... have a good one.a
Peace out brah!
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