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Comcast, AT&T to help RIAA?
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 28 January, 2009
Last month we reported that the RIAA was set to stop lawsuits, and would instead pressure ISPs to send warnings to alleged pirates eventually shutting down service to those that received three warnings.
According to sources talking to CNet, AT&T and Comcast appear to be the first ISPs to willingly join the RIAA's monitoring program and begin sending warnings to alleged pirates as the ... [ read the full article ]
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iamgq
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28. January 2009 @ 16:00 |
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In the words of David Chapelle--RIAA is f@ch!nk up
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b18bek9
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28. January 2009 @ 16:07 |
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I have At&t and if this does go through i'll be switching my service asap i guess i should keep my eyes open for this bullshiet. Not like i'm a pirate or nothing but i dont like where its going monitoring my internet and all that to me is an invasion of privacy and if they are throttling as well then its time to say goodbye to crappy service. I gotta look to see who in the bay area has a decent service.
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jetyi83
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28. January 2009 @ 16:14 |
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agreed, i just switched to att, but if this goes through back to suddenlink i go.
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EnigmaCM
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28. January 2009 @ 16:48 |
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I feel the same way. I have comcast and although they have not come out and announced it, I have been noticing up and down throttling on my service. I had paid a month ahead of my due date and all of a sudden for three days straight my internet went from little to no service with no warning and no blackouts. On the same days, I piggybacked on my neighbors service (with their permission of course) and they had full service. I don't pirate and I don't think I abuse their service but if i signed up to use their "unlimited" service next to a business line (three laptops and two desktops are connected) then i don't see what their problem is. So if this goes through, I might be getting a new ISP as well
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Ragnarok8
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28. January 2009 @ 17:09 |
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I expect them to lose quite a few customers on this.
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warriorp
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28. January 2009 @ 17:27 |
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well if they do ill be going to bayou internet. the owner specifically said he wont be dealing with stuff like that. so as soon as the announcement comes then im outtie.
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28. January 2009 @ 18:14 |
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And how are they going to determine you are a "pirate" without invading your privacy. If they are assuming a customer that downloads alot is a pirate then that is bullsh!t. I have been known to download 5+ gigabytes in 1 day does that automatically make me a pirate? I just downloaded Windows 7 beta (both 32bit and 64bit) within an afternoon recently. I also frequently download lots of data when I work on computers outside of my house. So unless they are looking into where I make my download connections (ie. invading my privacy) then they are making assumptions, both of which are wrong.
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vballstud
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28. January 2009 @ 18:29 |
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Didn't Comcrap already restructure their Internet Service by only permitting "x" amount of bandwidth usage per month? I thought about going back to them until they told me that they now have limits on bandwidth. There was no way that I could stay within their limits being unemployed and playing Xbox Live all the time. Especially now that I stream Netflix frequently.
If Comcast didn't have a monopoly in most areas that they're in, they'd be losing a helluva lot more business with all the poor decisions they've made in the last couple of years.
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28. January 2009 @ 19:27 |
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Comcast and At&t are partner to or own alot of media inserts of coarse they re going to help...
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EnigmaCM
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28. January 2009 @ 19:45 |
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Originally posted by vballstud:
Didn't Comcrap already restructure their Internet Service by only permitting "x" amount of bandwidth usage per month? I thought about going back to them until they told me that they now have limits on bandwidth. There was no way that I could stay within their limits being unemployed and playing Xbox Live all the time. Especially now that I stream Netflix frequently.
If Comcast didn't have a monopoly in most areas that they're in, they'd be losing a helluva lot more business with all the poor decisions they've made in the last couple of years.
See that is my point exactly. Comcast had a 250 gig limit a month. Ok, to the average user that might a good amount but as you stated (trust me i am in the same boat as you) I surf a lot, I view a lot of videos on You Tube, Meta Cafe etc, I play Xbox Live and I once in a while stream movies via Netflix plus the free (and legit non copyright infringing movies that are available to download absolutely free I can easily run out of bandwidth that they so implied was enough. I got 4 computers on wireless, a fifth one connected direct plus I seldom use the PSP for surfing....in other words, by my usage I am or could be labeled a "pirate" in their eyes. Whatever happened to "unlimited"? Now because of that gap I restrict everyone and myself to fall under the 250 gig mark but i should not need to. Either offer what you promised to give (unlimited internet) or raise the cap a bit, 250 gigs no matter how it is legitimized or abused is not enough for people like us that use the internet as such
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Run4two
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28. January 2009 @ 20:04 |
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It would be ludicrous for them to think of piracy as a result of high usage. I replaced my hard drive on my ps3 with a 320 gig and started re downloading all the games and demos I had before. It was over 100 gig worth. Am I now on the "big brother watch" list?
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windsong
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28. January 2009 @ 21:39 |
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20 yrs from now..hard drive companies will not sell hard drives to end users (you and me)...only to companies. Games, movies, etc will be "streamed" and you'll have to login using a fairly draconian authentication system.
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28. January 2009 @ 21:51 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
20 yrs from now..hard drive companies will not sell hard drives to end users (you and me)...only to companies. Games, movies, etc will be "streamed" and you'll have to login using a fairly draconian authentication system.
If every device can stream HD quality media from mostly free services(think TV+internet) then the mainstream end user would not necessarily need to bother with their own storage systems.
Yes their would be plenty of subscription based services but you would have alot of advert based ones and adverts can range from stickers on the corners of a broadcast or commercials.
I think we will be better off then as the media mafia would have aged more into rehab than the crack smoking juvenile tweenty something they are now.
But more importantly for tech enthusiasts they will always have access to "expensive" new or 2nd hand crap so for people that give a damn not much will change but preahps the police begin able to make raids on your unlicensed home media server....
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david89
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28. January 2009 @ 23:10 |
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this suck and isps say you can't use over 250 gigs of bandwidth every month without being legal is false what about bands like nine inch nails that offering 450 gigs worth of 3 high def concerts that where filmed and all the other stuff this is just away to control the end user and make us have pay more use internet and how we use it because they (isps) can't comeup with new ways make money.
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28. January 2009 @ 23:45 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
20 yrs from now..hard drive companies will not sell hard drives to end users (you and me)...only to companies. Games, movies, etc will be "streamed" and you'll have to login using a fairly draconian authentication system.
That will never happen. people want big hard drives, the reason a lot of people own computers is because they can store all their stuff on it and access it easily.
Where there is a demand you can rely on someone being there to make money.
It's the same with ISP's, there is a market for torrent friendly ISP's.
Over here we have ISP's offering plans with names like 'torrent flood'
with unlimited off peak data.
These kind of ISP's do very well.
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ntense69
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29. January 2009 @ 02:13 |
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yea what about the bandwith that the picture sharing sites have that you post a picture onto one your nics on a website that uses bandwith too. and uploading photos n stuff via other sites takes up bandwith.
hell i would subscribe to a isp supplied music download and be able to rip and burn what i want and not worry about them invading my privacy whose next timewarner and charter cox......
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EnigmaCM
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29. January 2009 @ 02:30 |
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Originally posted by Run4two:
It would be ludicrous for them to think of piracy as a result of high usage. I replaced my hard drive on my ps3 with a 320 gig and started re downloading all the games and demos I had before. It was over 100 gig worth. Am I now on the "big brother watch" list?
If you have Comcast and you go over that 250 gig cap, you will get a call on a sunday morning (happened to me, at 8am if you can imagine that since they are based in NY and thought I might of been awake at that time) by their legal team indicating you have gone over and need to either a) tone it down, b) see if by any chance you might be leaking bandwidth through a virus or c) make sure your wireless network is secure and no one else is leeching. That would be your first and only warning to not go over the limit. If you are caught doin so again, your service is terminated and you will not be allowed to reconnect after 12 months. So keep in mind your 100 gigs of info you downloaded is counting against you. Now you would think they could provide a meter of sorts or something but IMO they are just waiting for someone to fail this cap to come down hard on them without warning.
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TSRSteve
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29. January 2009 @ 10:38 |
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How does this move benefit Comcast or AT&T in the slightest way? Do they think they're going to save money or resources by throttling or disconnecting paying customers? I just don't see what they're getting out of it. I wouldn't hesitate to cancel my internet and phone service because of this.
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29. January 2009 @ 11:49 |
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Originally posted by TSRSteve:
How does this move benefit Comcast or AT&T in the slightest way? Do they think they're going to save money or resources by throttling or disconnecting paying customers? I just don't see what they're getting out of it. I wouldn't hesitate to cancel my internet and phone service because of this.
Because they are partner with or own parts of the media industry, they'll get money either way..
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EnigmaCM
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29. January 2009 @ 12:16 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by TSRSteve:
How does this move benefit Comcast or AT&T in the slightest way? Do they think they're going to save money or resources by throttling or disconnecting paying customers? I just don't see what they're getting out of it. I wouldn't hesitate to cancel my internet and phone service because of this.
Because they are partner with or own parts of the media industry, they'll get money either way..
Exactly. In my area alone it is either Comcast or AT&T, WOW cable does not yet service my area and there is just nothing else around here so i am pretty much stuck with one or the other. I bet this is the situation for most Comcast/AT&T customers
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29. January 2009 @ 12:23 |
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Originally posted by EnigmaCM:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by TSRSteve:
How does this move benefit Comcast or AT&T in the slightest way? Do they think they're going to save money or resources by throttling or disconnecting paying customers? I just don't see what they're getting out of it. I wouldn't hesitate to cancel my internet and phone service because of this.
Because they are partner with or own parts of the media industry, they'll get money either way..
Exactly. In my area alone it is either Comcast or AT&T, WOW cable does not yet service my area and there is just nothing else around here so i am pretty much stuck with one or the other. I bet this is the situation for most Comcast/AT&T customers
THats what happens we you don't regulate and don't make sure he liens can be used by anyone willing to pay for them.
Frankly the lines should be "owned" by the government or local municipalities, the lines are rented out to the service providers who are contracted to maintain everything on the lines within a limit of their operating base, it would not take much to put out routing devices as so phone, net and cable tv are separated and work on the end user box.
No we let the corporations own everything here....even the government....
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Xplorer4
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29. January 2009 @ 14:15 |
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What really sucks for me, if this comes true, is that while there may be several ISPs in my area, WOW,Insight,AT&T,EOL,SITCO, and I would imagine Verizion will be selling internet before to much longer in our area. However the apt complex I live in only allow you to have ATT Internet/Phone, and Dish Network(who AT&T is sub-contracting for u-verse) for full tv service.
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navi1199
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29. January 2009 @ 18:06 |
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well at least comcast now has a better excuse for throttling user's bandwidth to a near unsable state...
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wdtv
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30. January 2009 @ 10:15 |
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I live in the chicago area and got a letter from Concast a few weeks ago. It said that my internet service is going from 6mbps to 12mbps for no extra charge. Granted I don't see a difference at all.
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atomicxl
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30. January 2009 @ 12:18 |
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Ehh, its whatever to me. I like music and don't have any issue paying for it.
As far as bandwidth caps... Xbox Live and Hulu aren't gonna get you anywhere near 250gb a month unless you literally are playing and streaming 24/7 for like 20+ days.
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