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Sony releases Aussie PS3 sales numbers
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article published on 6 February, 2009
Following Nintendo's and Microsoft's disclosure of their Australian hardware sales for 2008, Sony has joined them releasing their numbers today.
Sony Computer Entertainment Australia says they sold 213,000 units for the year, making total install base 460,000 for the country.
The company did confess however that 70,000 of those units were not sold, and instead were given away during ... [ read the full article ]
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6. February 2009 @ 18:50 |
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Not too bad actually compared to the 360. A 147,000 unit difference. And MS had exactly a 1-year head start in Australia. Pull out the 70,000 for 2008 and they sold 143,000 in Australia. Seems like they are somewhat on track. Hopefully they will have the rumored price cut this year.
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6. February 2009 @ 18:55 |
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Originally posted by emugamer:
Not too bad actually compared to the 360. A 147,000 unit difference. And MS had exactly a 1-year head start in Australia. Pull out the 70,000 for 2008 and they sold 143,000 in Australia. Seems like they are somewhat on track. Hopefully they will have the rumored price cut this year.
This is just counting 2008, no head start...
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6. February 2009 @ 19:37 |
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Originally posted by emugamer:
Not too bad actually compared to the 360. A 147,000 unit difference. And MS had exactly a 1-year head start in Australia. Pull out the 70,000 for 2008 and they sold 143,000 in Australia. Seems like they are somewhat on track. Hopefully they will have the rumored price cut this year.
This is only 2008 sales, the 'head start' isn't included.
Wii: 1 000 000
Xbox 360: 537 000
PS3: 390 000
PS3 is slowely getting off track. If the PS3 still wants to be part of the game they need a price reduction and more exclusives. Those two elements are currently in the Xbox 360, which is why I chose it over the PS3 and I'm very happy with it.
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6. February 2009 @ 20:01 |
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the ps3 game library is pretty dissapointing actually. there are a few great games, (uncharted) but i play more ps2 games on it than ps3, I am just lucky to have a backward compatable one or i would rarely use my ps3.
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7. February 2009 @ 00:22 |
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Imagine if the 360 was delayed 2 years because they didn't want to sell a beta to the public.
Wouldn't the PS3 bad price or not be carrying the industry?
The PS3 has issues but they are being dealt with like slow falling dominoes so it comes down to the 360s aging hardware and fail issues versus the PS3s lack of games one of them will only get better in time.....
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7. February 2009 @ 01:05 |
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Maybe, but that's not what happened.
The key phrase there is "Slow moving". I may feel the need to buy a PS3 by 2012, provided they have a few more exclusive titles.
Oh, you mean the hardware issues that were recently addressed? Yeah, Jasper.
And the 360 isn't even that far behind the PS3 in terms of processor and graphics power, there's barely a difference in most games... In the PS3's favor, anyway.
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Originally posted by nintenut:
Maybe, but that's not what happened.
The key phrase there is "Slow moving". I may feel the need to buy a PS3 in 2011, provided they have a few more exclusive titles.
Oh, you mean the hardware issues that were recently addressed? Yeah, Jasper.
And the 360 isn't even that far behind the PS3 in terms of processor and graphics power, there's barely a difference in most games... In the PS3's favor, anyway.
No they are not not(in fact I think the 360 has a better/easier time at graphics but the PS3 is catching up in detail and magnitude) but more over the disc size is a huge issue as MP games can not be put on multi discs and whats the 360 number 1 or 2 game type?
I consider the fail rate to be 10-15% now, the 360 is still a Frankenstein in terms of hardware design.
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7. February 2009 @ 01:33 |
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That is a good point, I can see that being a problem eventually...
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7. February 2009 @ 02:30 |
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Originally posted by Paladore:
the ps3 game library is pretty dissapointing actually. there are a few great games, (uncharted) but i play more ps2 games on it than ps3, I am just lucky to have a backward compatable one or i would rarely use my ps3.
I bought a wii in 2008, and have had a ps2 for some years. If the currernt ps3 would have been able to play ps2 games, I would have bought a ps3 instead of the wii (no matter what the price, since the money spent on games will quickly make the price for the console quite insignificant anyway).
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Originally posted by nintenut:
That is a good point, I can see that being a problem eventually...
We've already had 1 MP game to get a heavy down grade for the 360, one of the racing games anyway, so its a issue but most devs would rather not go all out only to dumb it down on their preferred console. However the PS3 is catching up and it will be interesting to see if they start sergeing in software sales and how the industry will adapt. Once devs lean to the PS3 the 360 days are numbered, for now the coding/optimizing issues and number of units out are the sticking point that slows them getting to it.
The 360 is am monster and its worst feature is the mish mash design, but the core elements of the brand it make it strong for industry and consumer alike.
But once the tipping point hits the market will get interesting...
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7. February 2009 @ 10:40 |
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Originally posted by emugamer:
Not too bad actually compared to the 360. A 147,000 unit difference. And MS had exactly a 1-year head start in Australia. Pull out the 70,000 for 2008 and they sold 143,000 in Australia. Seems like they are somewhat on track. Hopefully they will have the rumored price cut this year.
This is only 2008 sales, the 'head start' isn't included.
Wii: 1 000 000
Xbox 360: 537 000
PS3: 390 000
PS3 is slowely getting off track. If the PS3 still wants to be part of the game they need a price reduction and more exclusives. Those two elements are currently in the Xbox 360, which is why I chose it over the PS3 and I'm very happy with it.
Could someone clarify what is being stated in the article? I could be totally off here.
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In comparison, Nintendo has sold over 1 million Wii units and Microsoft has sold 537,000 Xbox 360 units.
The term has sold indicates to me that the 1 million Wii's and 537k 360's are total customer base sales. Especially since it follows Sony's customer base sales in the article.
2008:
PS3: 143,000
Install base for the country:
Xbox 360: 537,000
PS3: 390,000
MS had a year head start and they are 147,000 units ahead. Roughly the amount of units sold in Australia in 1 year.
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7. February 2009 @ 12:27 |
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I just want to say that I love the Wii and HATE the PS3!!
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Originally posted by emugamer:
Not too bad actually compared to the 360. A 147,000 unit difference. And MS had exactly a 1-year head start in Australia. Pull out the 70,000 for 2008 and they sold 143,000 in Australia. Seems like they are somewhat on track. Hopefully they will have the rumored price cut this year.
This is only 2008 sales, the 'head start' isn't included.
Wii: 1 000 000
Xbox 360: 537 000
PS3: 390 000
PS3 is slowely getting off track. If the PS3 still wants to be part of the game they need a price reduction and more exclusives. Those two elements are currently in the Xbox 360, which is why I chose it over the PS3 and I'm very happy with it.
Exclusives and price aren't the problem imo, its just very poor marketing. Consumers don't know about its exclusives and what other features the ps3 has besides the fact that it plays games and is a bluray player. And they repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot because of this crappy marketing; more recently with the killzone demo which required a preorder to obtain before the game comes out. Like you see xbox and wii commercials everywhere for their exclusives and the occasional multiplat but there's jack all for the ps3's exclusives and pretty much none for the console itself anymore.
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Originally posted by emugamer:
Not too bad actually compared to the 360. A 147,000 unit difference. And MS had exactly a 1-year head start in Australia. Pull out the 70,000 for 2008 and they sold 143,000 in Australia. Seems like they are somewhat on track. Hopefully they will have the rumored price cut this year.
This is only 2008 sales, the 'head start' isn't included.
Wii: 1 000 000
Xbox 360: 537 000
PS3: 390 000
PS3 is slowely getting off track. If the PS3 still wants to be part of the game they need a price reduction and more exclusives. Those two elements are currently in the Xbox 360, which is why I chose it over the PS3 and I'm very happy with it.
Exclusives and price aren't the problem imo, its just very poor marketing. Consumers don't know about its exclusives and what other features the ps3 has besides the fact that it plays games and is a bluray player. And they repeatedly shoot themselves in the foot because of this crappy marketing; more recently with the killzone demo which required a preorder to obtain before the game comes out. Like you see xbox and wii commercials everywhere for their exclusives and the occasional multiplat but there's jack all for the ps3's exclusives and pretty much none for the console itself anymore.
Agreed.
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That's just plain business economics.. Advertising is expensive and marketing departments need to show an effective return on the outlay.
You don't often see turkeys advertised unless it is the time of year when people eat them, same with the ps3.. it's a turkey and sony know it. They are trying to maximise profits from sales by cutting the advertising budget. That's the same reason there is no price cut.. they are happy to make profit from every one sold. They have publicly said they don't care about the "console war".. the typical stance of any business when it has already well and truly lost it's customer base. It will sell to those who want it, and nobody else. People have different requirements from a games console.. usually they will have a blu player if they are that kind of consumer, so that feature is pointless.. add to that the way it isn't styled to fit in a multimedia setup.. standard rackmount styling would have been better IMHO if that was the market they were aiming at.. as it is I would have a hard time finding where it does actually fit. Is it a games console or an expensive dvd player? The lack of exclusive game titles leads me to believe sony also have the same dilemma.
Simple fact.. he retailers and the buying public see it as an overpriced lump of hardware with very few "special" features to justify ownership. Like trying to sell frozen turkeys in July.. not a lot of point really XD
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Why not advertise games in a 5 minute block on the games themselves before the start menu, skipable of coarse, having 5-10 non big game titles(all the big game titles will have plenty of adverts), it could work but their would need to be a assaitaion of some kind to lick wounds, take fees and sort out the lulzy mess.
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Well, the fact that PS3 is (still) retailing here in Australia for around $700 and the other two consoles are about half that price might be crippling their sales just a bit :|
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The company did confess however that 70,000 of those units were not sold, and instead were given away during a Bravia LCD promotion.
hahahaha The part missing in this statement is that u had to get the massive Sony Screens too even be offered the PS3. I saw this offer promotion last year and the TV you had to buy to get the ps3 for free was priced a RRP $10,000
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bottom line is PS3 may not have enough exclusives to some people but the reason most PS2 supporters havenot bought a PS3 is not b/c PS2 still has games. Its b/c PS3 is too expensive compared to its competition regardless of having a blueray player and the Legend of the cell processors capabilities.
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10. February 2009 @ 06:02 |
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Originally posted by i_am_alex:
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Anyway the PS3 is costly that drives down sales first and foremost.
I mean look at the 360 even with as high of a fail rate as 60% off the production line(30% off the shelf) people lapped it up becuse of its price..or because frat boys are drunkards......but..
hehehehehe :P
And lets not bring up the WII and its drooling consumers :P
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Actually, considering the size of Australia, and their layout of major cities mainly on their coasts, this is actually a GOOD number for PS3, especially in relation to our country. While we might not see the numbers great increasing here, step back and take a look closer at them and you'll see it, yes it's still lagging BUT improving and heading ever so slowly in the right direction . .
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The company did confess however that 70,000 of those units were not sold, and instead were given away during a Bravia LCD promotion.
hahahaha The part missing in this statement is that u had to get the massive Sony Screens too even be offered the PS3. I saw this offer promotion last year and the TV you had to buy to get the ps3 for free was priced a RRP $10,000
That's not true. I work in AV Retail. The late 2008 Bravia promotion was that a free PS3 was given with every full HD (even the 32" V Series) LCD TV capped at a limit of 35,000. It must have been the promotion for Dec '07/Jan '08 that made up the difference for the rest.
http://www.sony.com.au/article.jsp?id=4047
Also, those that are saying that the below sales figures are for 2008 only...
Wii: 1,000,000+
XBox 360: 537,000
PS3: 390,000 (+70,000 given away in promotion)
That is completely incorrect. The article clearly states that that those figures are the total install base for the Country. I am not sure about other stores but I know where I work, we sell about four PS3's to every one XBox 360. However, the Wii is definitely the most popular game console.
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Originally posted by BTFan:
Originally posted by emugamer:
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Not too bad actually compared to the 360. A 147,000 unit difference. And MS had exactly a 1-year head start in Australia. Pull out the 70,000 for 2008 and they sold 143,000 in Australia. Seems like they are somewhat on track. Hopefully they will have the rumored price cut this year.
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This is only 2008 sales, the 'head start' isn't included.
Wii: 1 000 000
Xbox 360: 537 000
PS3: 390 000
PS3 is slowely getting off track. If the PS3 still wants to be part of the game they need a price reduction and more exclusives. Those two elements are currently in the Xbox 360, which is why I chose it over the PS3 and I'm very happy with it.
Originally posted by emugamer:
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In comparison, Nintendo has sold over 1 million Wii units and Microsoft has sold 537,000 Xbox 360 units.
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The term has sold indicates to me that the 1 million Wii's and 537k 360's are total customer base sales. Especially since it follows Sony's customer base sales in the article.
2008:
PS3: 143,000
Install base for the country:
Xbox 360: 537,000
PS3: 390,000
MS had a year head start and they are 147,000 units ahead. Roughly the amount of units sold in Australia in 1 year.
Originally posted by Ryu77:
Also, those that are saying that the below sales figures are for 2008 only...
Wii: 1,000,000+
XBox 360: 537,000
PS3: 390,000 (+70,000 given away in promotion)
That is completely incorrect. The article clearly states that that those figures are the total install base for the Country.
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