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13. March 2009 @ 05:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just to try and explain what I understand to be the situation with missing channels (Sky sports,Movies, LFCTV Adult, ZeeTV etc ).

This is the start of the introduction of Nagra 2/3, and they will gradually change over all channels to the new encryption. They will start with the channels with the least amount of subscription (MUTV, Zee TV, Adult Channels) and then work there way through until all channels are on the new encryption. I am not sure how long this is expected to take, so we will just have to enjoy what we have while we have it.

As far as I know, (which is not very far) this new encryption has not been broken anywhere yet (but I stand to be corrected on that), and nobody knows if it will be or when it will be. There are a lot of rumours going around saying that it has been broken, but there has been no proof of this anywhere.

If the new encryption is broken, it may not be possible to update your current box (it may be but it may not be), so if and when the encryption is broken there might be a need to purchase a new type of box.

This is just my own current understanding of the situation, I am not an expert on this and stand to be corrected, just thought I would post this in an effort to explain the current situation

Whatever you say, say nothing when you talk about you know what for if you know who might hear you, you know what youll get. Youll be sent off to you know where for you would not know how long. Maybe I could search through the threads so you dont have to ??

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 4. April 2009 @ 04:32

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satguy99
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13. March 2009 @ 05:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nagavision 2 was cracked 2 years ago and nagravision 3 is very close to being opened in a software format,,,I expect a result over the summer, there sould be no need to change receivers provided your receiver is no more than 2-3 years old,
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13. March 2009 @ 12:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think you are wrong in your assumption that is for foreign sat and not on the cable scene

you cannot crack what is not in place fully as yet and n3 has never been cracked if you google the information its all freely available

here is just 1 example have a read and let me know what your thinking is on this

http://www.elitecoders.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10081

http://www.ftabins.net/showthread.php?t=75167&page=7

thats just the tip of the reports
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13. March 2009 @ 14:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for that Fergusrb, a bit of reading for me there!!



Whatever you say, say nothing when you talk about you know what for if you know who might hear you, you know what youll get. Youll be sent off to you know where for you would not know how long. Maybe I could search through the threads so you dont have to ??
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16. March 2009 @ 05:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Updated!

Whatever you say, say nothing when you talk about you know what for if you know who might hear you, you know what youll get. Youll be sent off to you know where for you would not know how long. Maybe I could search through the threads so you dont have to ??
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16. March 2009 @ 16:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is the alledged story behind the cracking and subsequent court case relating to Nagra 2 and others being cracked. Other media estimates put the cost of the allegded operation by NDS @ $5m.

http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2008/04/murdoch

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2002/mar/13/media.citynews

Perhaps without alledged big money corporate hacking sponsorship, Nagra 3 will remain as uncracked as NDS/Videoguard has?
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16. March 2009 @ 16:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Update for Ireland

Adult channel
Playboy
Tvx
The box
Zee tv
Chelsea
Celtic
Lfc
Mutv

These channels have now moved to N3 so it wont matter how many times you scan your box you will not get them back and its only a matter of time before more move up the tree and at the present time there does not look like there is likely to be a fix for a while to come so enjoy what you have for the moment


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Inquitus
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16. March 2009 @ 17:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its still regional, no new cards or N3 on ch*rus / U*C in North Dublin anyways.
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16. March 2009 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its only a Ntl prob not chorus at the present time


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17. March 2009 @ 15:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I still have all these channels in Dub , where do u think these will stop working ?

Originally posted by CyborCop:
Update for Ireland

Adult channel
Playboy
Tvx
The box
Zee tv
Chelsea
Celtic
Lfc
Mutv

These channels have now moved to N3 so it wont matter how many times you scan your box you will not get them back and its only a matter of time before more move up the tree and at the present time there does not look like there is likely to be a fix for a while to come so enjoy what you have for the moment
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17. March 2009 @ 19:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Are you on Chorus or Ntl ?



Whatever you say, say nothing when you talk about you know what for if you know who might hear you, you know what youll get. Youll be sent off to you know where for you would not know how long. Maybe I could search through the threads so you dont have to ??
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17. March 2009 @ 22:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
some n*l areas still have those channels,not a full coverage yet of total wipe.
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18. March 2009 @ 18:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am suprised how quiet the forums are, think most people won't realise this is happening until the sports and movies channels go.



Whatever you say, say nothing when you talk about you know what for if you know who might hear you, you know what youll get. Youll be sent off to you know where for you would not know how long. Maybe I could search through the threads so you dont have to ??
robocab
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18. March 2009 @ 20:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Lads, I've been gone for a year to Oz just back to find out whats been going on, I spent all day yesterday fixing and updating 3 box's at home, N3 is finally here, it's like judgement day for all the freeviewers (including myself) i've been just reading forums all day this is my first post, ScOuser had a few interesting comments earlier on another thread, so are we going to let the Nt Hell Reign supreme or are we gonna rise up and defeat the beast.I think the Latter I'de say we'll loose our channels for a while but we'll be back up and running by the end of the summer,watch this space
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18. March 2009 @ 21:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Precisely mate.
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19. March 2009 @ 16:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by robocab:
Hi Lads, I've been gone for a year to Oz just back to find out whats been going on, I spent all day yesterday fixing and updating 3 box's at home, N3 is finally here, it's like judgement day for all the freeviewers (including myself) i've been just reading forums all day this is my first post, ScOuser had a few interesting comments earlier on another thread, so are we going to let the Nt Hell Reign supreme or are we gonna rise up and defeat the beast.I think the Latter I'de say we'll loose our channels for a while but we'll be back up and running by the end of the summer,watch this space
Would love to see ScOuser's comments.
Can you direct me to them please.
He is always very interesting.
dexsan
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21. March 2009 @ 10:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by CyborCop:
Update for Ireland

Adult channel
Playboy
Tvx
The box
Zee tv
Chelsea
Celtic
Lfc
Mutv

These channels have now moved to N3 so it wont matter how many times you scan your box you will not get them back and its only a matter of time before more move up the tree and at the present time there does not look like there is likely to be a fix for a while to come so enjoy what you have for the moment


Kryptview has a fix and all of them are working again.
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21. March 2009 @ 11:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dexsan:
Originally posted by CyborCop:
Update for Ireland

Adult channel
Playboy
Tvx
The box
Zee tv
Chelsea
Celtic
Lfc
Mutv

These channels have now moved to N3 so it wont matter how many times you scan your box you will not get them back and its only a matter of time before more move up the tree and at the present time there does not look like there is likely to be a fix for a while to come so enjoy what you have for the moment


Kryptview has a fix and all of them are working again.
well please state what frequencies you got all your channels back on.


dexsan
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21. March 2009 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
they have a new fix out you flash the box with it and all the channels are back.
dede36
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21. March 2009 @ 12:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dexsan:
they have a new fix out you flash the box with it and all the channels are back.
can you tell me if the fix will work for starview and where can i find it...thanks
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21. March 2009 @ 12:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dede36:
Originally posted by dexsan:
they have a new fix out you flash the box with it and all the channels are back.
can you tell me if the fix will work for starview and where can i find it...thanks
I'm sure they're working on a starview fix but kryptview won't work on starview no.




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Jockg
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21. March 2009 @ 12:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Kryptview has a fix and all of them are working again.Do you know were I can get it, thanks
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21. March 2009 @ 12:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jockg:
Kryptview has a fix and all of them are working again.Do you know were I can get it, thanks
http://eko.4shared.com




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21. March 2009 @ 12:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for the response I guess I have to start going back to the pub to watch the footie
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21. March 2009 @ 14:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dexsan:
they have a new fix out you flash the box with it and all the channels are back.
yeah just spotted that.


 
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