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Microsoft likely to raise Xbox Live price, says Pachter
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 19 October, 2009
Wedbush Morgan videogame industry analyst Michael Pachter has made some more interesting comments this week on GameTrailer's Bonus Round, stating that Microsoft is ready to move on from PC gaming, and that the company will eventually raise the price of Xbox Live Gold subscriptions.
"Microsoft wants you to never play a game again on your PC and play everything on your 360," says Pachter. ... [ read the full article ]
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xnmalletx
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19. October 2009 @ 14:51 |
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I like xbox live so much better than PlayStation network but if we see an xbox live price hike then Sony had better get more consoles ready. I can't see a price cut coming from Microsoft, that would be a terrible financial decision. The price is perfect where it is. They will need some damn good justification for this. I just can't see anyone paying any more for xbox live service. This guy is just trying to make a lucky guess. Nobody has any idea what Microsoft will do, no matter how much of an analyst you are.
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19. October 2009 @ 15:15 |
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I would think that they would be lowering the price or make it free like the Wii and PS3. I have not played the Wii online, but with the PS3 and 360, once you are playing the game there is no diference to justify a price. Much less an increase.
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jookycola
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19. October 2009 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by glassd:
with the PS3 and 360, once you are playing the game there is no diference to justify a price. Much less an increase.
That's what I say. How can someone like Live! over the PlayStation Network? they are the same exact thing.
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19. October 2009 @ 15:59 |
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They both have their own benifits but I think that I am in the majority that just wants to play online against others. If one service could get people to stop shooting me, I would pay for that. I dont realy care what the market place or PS store page looks like or how they are layed out. No doubt, Live kicked PS2 online's butt and was worth the $. Now, not enough difference.
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19. October 2009 @ 16:27 |
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If this does happen it looks like I'll be playing my 360 offline and my PS3 online. Like someone posted above the game doesn't have any difference, but I like Live's interface better then PSN.
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19. October 2009 @ 16:38 |
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you would have to be and ID10T to raise the price on Live its already too much.
Shrinking your fan base and charging more for it, nah i think not.
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19. October 2009 @ 17:11 |
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Originally posted by glassd:
with the PS3 and 360, once you are playing the game there is no diference to justify a price. Much less an increase.
That's what I say. How can someone like Live! over the PlayStation Network? they are the same exact thing.
I have both and have played on both. Only difference I see is that more people have mics on XBL. Other than that, gameplay is the same.
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19. October 2009 @ 17:30 |
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i can't see paying more than the 50 USD per year i own both and i can say that live is a better service,dont get me wrong PSN is good but live is better. you really get what you pay for.but with that being said even i would stop playing live if they hike the price.
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19. October 2009 @ 18:04 |
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I think we should all remember that Pachter has zero affiliation with Microsoft. When he predicts sales and other things, he's at least basing it off of some current research and statistical trends. This seems to be him 100% blowing smoke out of his ass with no real factual basis at all.
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19. October 2009 @ 20:02 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if something like this happens. I suppose I'll just have to play my 360 offline and use PSN to go online.
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19. October 2009 @ 20:18 |
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i would have a great difficulty wanting to pay for LIVE.
they (microsoft) already is making live gold suscriptions almost needed. so u get Demo's a week early and some discounts on DLC stuff.
but if they are gonna do a dick move by raising the price. they can keep it. i already pay 40 bux a month for internet. why should i dole out another 50 or whatever they wanna charge for multiplayer which should be free in the first place. FaceBook and Twitter are hardly worth the bother. anyone can update facebook from a Cell phone or the obvious Choice a Computer. so to hell with Msoft if they hike it up. its just not worth it to me. bad enough companies are so greedy they make everything where u have to buy 2 copies of a game and have 2 systems, 2 lcd tvs, 2 internet connections, or a home network. just to play against each other because making a split screen game doesn't sell copies. (i.e. driving games) im just sayin. don't be greedy Msoft. there is enough people out there that do not have a problem with the current prices. dont scare them away by raising the price.
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xnmalletx
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19. October 2009 @ 20:33 |
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Originally posted by atomicxl:
I think we should all remember that Pachter has zero affiliation with Microsoft. When he predicts sales and other things, he's at least basing it off of some current research and statistical trends. This seems to be him 100% blowing smoke out of his ass with no real factual basis at all.
Exactly, he has nothing to back it up.
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jookycola
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19. October 2009 @ 23:51 |
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Originally posted by Se7ven:
i can't see paying more than the 50 USD per year i own both and i can say that live is a better service,dont get me wrong PSN is good but live is better. you really get what you pay for.but with that being said even i would stop playing live if they hike the price.
A better service? Please explain. How is Live better than PSN when they do the same exact thing, and perform just as well? Do you own both or are you just a Live Subscriber making a one sided observation? I own both and i don't see a difference in performance at all. Only i can see is, one i'm paying for and one i'm not. Do you think just because you pay for Live you are automatically getting a better service? Just curious.
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20. October 2009 @ 00:02 |
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Originally posted by Se7ven:
i can't see paying more than the 50 USD per year i own both and i can say that live is a better service,dont get me wrong PSN is good but live is better. you really get what you pay for.but with that being said even i would stop playing live if they hike the price.
A better service? Please explain. How is Live better than PSN when they do the same exact thing, and perform just as well? Do you own both or are you just a Live Subscriber making a one sided observation? I own both and i don't see a difference in performance at all. Only i can see is, one i'm paying for and one i'm not. Do you think just because you pay for Live you are automatically getting a better service? Just curious.
Same here. I don't know why I have to pay for Xbox Live when PSN is just as satisfying to me and it's free. What's making me even more mad is that for like the past month, all I've been playing is GT5:P and now Demon's Souls (awesome game) and so my payed for Live subscription is going down the drain because I find the 360 line-up to be boring, and my console is modded so I can play whatever I want. Even Forza 3 doesn't excite me because I like playing with a steering wheel and Logitech just doesn't wanna support the 360 :(
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20. October 2009 @ 00:08 |
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Originally posted by Se7ven:
i can't see paying more than the 50 USD per year i own both and i can say that live is a better service,dont get me wrong PSN is good but live is better. you really get what you pay for.but with that being said even i would stop playing live if they hike the price.
A better service? Please explain. How is Live better than PSN when they do the same exact thing, and perform just as well? Do you own both or are you just a Live Subscriber making a one sided observation? I own both and i don't see a difference in performance at all. Only i can see is, one i'm paying for and one i'm not. Do you think just because you pay for Live you are automatically getting a better service? Just curious.
Same here. I don't know why I have to pay for Xbox Live when PSN is just as satisfying to me and it's free. What's making me even more mad is that for like the past month, all I've been playing is GT5:P and now Demon's Souls (awesome game) and so my payed for Live subscription is going down the drain because I find the 360 line-up to be boring, and my console is modded so I can play whatever I want. Even Forza 3 doesn't excite me because I like playing with a steering wheel and Logitech just doesn't wanna support the 360 :(
That's another thing with XBL. If I don't play I feel like I am wasting money for no reason. Kinda like a rental fee on a car or hotel where you pay for the entire day but are only there for the night.
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20. October 2009 @ 00:33 |
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What happens on the day of the price hike to everyone who just bought a year subscription? Is it still good. If so I will just buy more long term subscriptions. They probably have fine print that allows them to change rates to current subscribers at any time without warning though. I don't know.....just something to look in to .
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20. October 2009 @ 01:39 |
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Microsoft has been wanting to make tons more money via subscription fees for over a decade...even w/ Windows and Office, they've wanted to move to charging users a monthly subscription for using it rather than selling copies of it (zero initial cost to the user, but in the long term, a lot more $$$ to M$ than what the software currently sells for). They haven't figured out quite how to sell this idea, but they DO want to do it. Maybe XBL is their way of testing this idea???
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20. October 2009 @ 01:55 |
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Microsoft is a fool if they really think they can move PC gamers to Xbox only. There's still too many developers out there that will not abandon the PC gaming market anytime soon. And last I checked Microsoft doesn't make many PC games to begin with other than Flight Sims and...that's it. That's why they pushed the developers behind Alan Wake to make it a 360 exclusive, which from the get go was suppose to be PC only for the time being, now it's 360 only! Raising the price will not help them out...I already know people who can barely afford Xbox LIVE fees as it is...begging people for 24 hour trial and 1 months. That said, I'd more than likely pay up because LIVE beats PSN by far. Nobody on PSN has headsets for you to communicate..and 90% of people on Xbox LIVE have headsets. Plus the party system and the new features coming to the Xbox will make Xbox LIVE 20X better than PSN. And those saying PSN and Xbox LIVE are the same...stop smokin crack!!! PSN sucks and Xbox LIVE dominates. Free is not always the best.
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20. October 2009 @ 03:00 |
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Originally posted by fgamer:
Microsoft is a fool if they really think they can move PC gamers to Xbox only. There's still too many developers out there that will not abandon the PC gaming market anytime soon. And last I checked Microsoft doesn't make many PC games to begin with other than Flight Sims and...that's it. That's why they pushed the developers behind Alan Wake to make it a 360 exclusive, which from the get go was suppose to be PC only for the time being, now it's 360 only! Raising the price will not help them out...I already know people who can barely afford Xbox LIVE fees as it is...begging people for 24 hour trial and 1 months. That said, I'd more than likely pay up because LIVE beats PSN by far. Nobody on PSN has headsets for you to communicate..and 90% of people on Xbox LIVE have headsets. Plus the party system and the new features coming to the Xbox will make Xbox LIVE 20X better than PSN. And those saying PSN and Xbox LIVE are the same...stop smokin crack!!! PSN sucks and Xbox LIVE dominates. Free is not always the best.
Except that a very large portion of that 90% w/ headsets are annoying little 12-14yo dweebs that kinda ruin the experience.
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20. October 2009 @ 03:03 |
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Pachters a moron, I don't get why sites continue to post his bs.
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20. October 2009 @ 03:40 |
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Originally posted by Morreale:
Even Forza 3 doesn't excite me because I like playing with a steering wheel and Logitech just doesn't wanna support the 360
What's wrong with microsoft's racing wheel???
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Pachters a moron, I don't get why sites continue to post his bs.
Agreed, this story is full of speculation, it is not news.
I'm not going to even bother to respond to any of the comments about psn being as good as xbox live.
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20. October 2009 @ 04:25 |
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I don't care if he is an expert on guess or this type of crap, if you think taking away PC games from pc gamers and make them get 360 is like taking a baby's toy away from the baby, that baby is not going to be a very happy baby. Yea, I love xbox live, great multiplayer, but i also know many of my friends who LOVES pc games and rather play that over a 360.
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20. October 2009 @ 06:37 |
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I never play my xbox online, i think it's F****D up that you have to pay for the games, pay to play online and pay for all extra stuff for the game online... Just another example that microsoft can and will screw you out of your money. :(
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20. October 2009 @ 08:02 |
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Originally posted by atomicxl:
I think we should all remember that Pachter has zero affiliation with Microsoft. When he predicts sales and other things, he's at least basing it off of some current research and statistical trends. This seems to be him 100% blowing smoke out of his ass with no real factual basis at all.
Exactly, he has nothing to back it up.
I'll 3rd that. Where does he get this info from?
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20. October 2009 @ 08:23 |
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Originally posted by Se7ven:
i can't see paying more than the 50 USD per year i own both and i can say that live is a better service,dont get me wrong PSN is good but live is better. you really get what you pay for.but with that being said even i would stop playing live if they hike the price.
A better service? Please explain. How is Live better than PSN when they do the same exact thing, and perform just as well? Do you own both or are you just a Live Subscriber making a one sided observation? I own both and i don't see a difference in performance at all. Only i can see is, one i'm paying for and one i'm not. Do you think just because you pay for Live you are automatically getting a better service? Just curious.
I feel like you are attacking my post but i don't understand why? but if you feel they are the same that's fine by me i don't care if you are upset about the fee for live just don't pay it and move on.
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