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xM0RGUEx
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31. October 2009 @ 02:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
also guys, should i flash with ixtreme 1.6 or 1.61? are you more prone to being banned with 1.61?

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31. October 2009 @ 02:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
lite-on flashed with 1.6 about a month ago
play some originals and backups
always connected to live
not banned
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31. October 2009 @ 02:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Updated to 1.61 today

been playing online all day

not banned

I don't think the firmware is the issue
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31. October 2009 @ 02:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by jerecho:
Updated to 1.61 today

been playing online all day

not banned

I don't think the firmware is the issue
alright, thank you.

i have one last question and im sorry cuz its pretty dumb.

When I have burned a game and am playing it and say that microsoft has a update for it when i pop the game in. Should i be hesitant to download the update or will i be fine with my stealth patched game?

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31. October 2009 @ 02:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As long as the gamevis stealth you should be okay to update
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31. October 2009 @ 02:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xM0RGUEx:
Originally posted by jerecho:
Updated to 1.61 today

been playing online all day

not banned

I don't think the firmware is the issue
alright, thank you.

i have one last question and im sorry cuz its pretty dumb.

When I have burned a game and am playing it and say that microsoft has a update for it when i pop the game in. Should i be hesitant to download the update or will i be fine with my stealth patched game?
As long as you stealth it properly youll be fine with the updates
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31. October 2009 @ 02:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think I've read every post on this thread so far. Has anyone with 1.61 been banned?
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31. October 2009 @ 02:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
I think I've read every post on this thread so far. Has anyone with 1.61 been banned?
I just finished reading every single post in here and i dont remember if anyone has! Does that mean i have ADD?
All kidding aside, from what ive read its being stated that firmware is not the problem, so im assuming this is because every firmware version in question has a person who has been banned.
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31. October 2009 @ 02:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has firmware ever been the issue. Isn't it usually (always) doing something dumb that gets u banned.
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31. October 2009 @ 02:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by jerecho:
Has firmware ever been the issue. Isn't it usually (always) doing something dumb that gets u banned.
yes
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31. October 2009 @ 02:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My version of Forza 3 is verified by abgx...does this mean it is not a review copy and is safe to play online? I heard a lot of places that people were getting banned from playing a known review copy. Will it be safe if it's verified by abgx?
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31. October 2009 @ 03:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thats what I thought
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31. October 2009 @ 03:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by goyankees:
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
I think I've read every post on this thread so far. Has anyone with 1.61 been banned?
I just finished reading every single post in here and i dont remember if anyone has! Does that mean i have ADD?
All kidding aside, from what ive read its being stated that firmware is not the problem, so im assuming this is because every firmware version in question has a person who has been banned.
Great...just curious. And who knows, I may be ADD.
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31. October 2009 @ 03:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by jerecho:
Has firmware ever been the issue. Isn't it usually (always) doing something dumb that gets u banned.
Never.Always. :)
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31. October 2009 @ 03:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by asdfTT123:
My version of Forza 3 is verified by abgx...does this mean it is not a review copy and is safe to play online? I heard a lot of places that people were getting banned from playing a known review copy. Will it be safe if it's verified by abgx?
SMDH, yes
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31. October 2009 @ 03:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
<-------Or NEW even! I just modded my first box a few days ago...forgive my ignorance for all the veterans that have been cirumventing M$ technology since the beginning.
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31. October 2009 @ 03:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
<-------Or NEW even! I just modded my first box a few days ago...forgive my ignorance for all the veterans that have been cirumventing M$ technology since the beginning.
welcome!
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31. October 2009 @ 03:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by goyankees:
Originally posted by MrGreaser:
<-------Or NEW even! I just modded my first box a few days ago...forgive my ignorance for all the veterans that have been cirumventing M$ technology since the beginning.
welcome!
Thank you, and Happy Halloween to you!
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31. October 2009 @ 03:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just wanted to throw my 2 cents and and say that it's not only gold members that are getting banned. I had let my gold subscription slide about 5 months before I decided to mod my system and I woke up to a ban this morning.

Every game I play has been verified through abgx, and I've never played a game before the actual release date. The only thing I've done on live is talk to a couple of friends while playing games and download some free content for a few games.

I'm running a Samsung with 1.51 on it. Oh well, I knew the risks of doing this, guess I'll just have to buy a legit system now for my official games.

Good... Bad... I'm the one with the gun
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31. October 2009 @ 03:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is it remotely possible that abgx verification can give a false reading? I am just curious (no need to flame, im new).

Also, how many of the members that have survived previous ban waves and did they REALLY back up originals from original disk and not download ico's of their originals.

See the connection im trying to make? Maybe it is abgx from downloaded ico's. I know its always best to back up YOUR originals personally.

(For the record: I did not flash my drive, trying to just figure out what went wrong/right in the scene. I know there are always risk in banning so no need for a lecture on that)
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31. October 2009 @ 04:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't understand what you are trying to say.

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Is it remotely possible that abgx verification can give a false reading? I am just curious (no need to flame, im new).
Yes, there has been a few cases in which a bad rip was uploaded to abgx.

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31. October 2009 @ 04:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by JediOrc:
Is it remotely possible that abgx verification can give a false reading? I am just curious (no need to flame, im new).

Also, how many of the members that have survived previous ban waves and did they REALLY back up originals from original disk and not download ico's of their originals.

See the connection im trying to make? Maybe it is abgx from downloaded ico's. I know its always best to back up YOUR originals personally.

(For the record: I did not flash my drive, trying to just figure out what went wrong/right in the scene. I know there are always risk in banning so no need for a lecture on that)
NON, it is not ABGX that is giving False Positives for security. and just for the record... it's .ISO not .ICO

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31. October 2009 @ 04:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by chris4160:
Originally posted by JediOrc:
Also, how many of the members that have survived previous ban waves and did they REALLY back up originals from original disk and not download ico's of their originals.

See the connection im trying to make? Maybe it is abgx from downloaded ico's. I know its always best to back up YOUR originals personally.

(For the record: I did not flash my drive, trying to just figure out what went wrong/right in the scene. I know there are always risk in banning so no need for a lecture on that)
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Well im trying to make a connection POSSIBILY between abgx and originals. If M $ is not deteccting flash then it has to be the games itself and since many didnt play games before release it has to be the stealth itself...possibily.

So what im thinking, is it possibile for a false verification?
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31. October 2009 @ 04:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by jpizzle:
it's .ISO not .ICO
FAIL on my part LOL. I must be tired... hopefully someone from the scene will figure everything out :-)
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31. October 2009 @ 04:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by JediOrc:
Originally posted by chris4160:
Originally posted by JediOrc:
Also, how many of the members that have survived previous ban waves and did they REALLY back up originals from original disk and not download ico's of their originals.

See the connection im trying to make? Maybe it is abgx from downloaded ico's. I know its always best to back up YOUR originals personally.

(For the record: I did not flash my drive, trying to just figure out what went wrong/right in the scene. I know there are always risk in banning so no need for a lecture on that)
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Well im trying to make a connection POSSIBILY between abgx and originals. If M $ is not deteccting flash then it has to be the games itself and since many didnt play games before release it has to be the stealth itself...possibily.

So what im thinking, is it possibile for a false verification?
Yes and no. There was one case a few months ago where a bad rip was uploaded to abgx and games were not stealthed properly. But it won't give a "false verification" if the upload is good.

The most likely case for people being banned is not checking with ABGX and playing games before release date.
 
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