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MS Ban Hammer - 10.30.09
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shine305
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12. November 2009 @ 21:44 |
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Originally posted by zelda5402:
Originally posted by mshockey:
Originally posted by goatboy84:
May have been answered already but this thread is madness.
What is being banned the profile or the xbox. A friend of mine got banned, bought a new xbox and is back online saying he lost nothing but the system. Others are saying that you will lose game saves.
Anyone have a clue?
I've read every page of this thread and here's some info that should help some people.
Ya, this one has been tossed around a bit. Your profile that is on the HD that got banned will be corrupted. It can be deleted using an unmodded xbox and recovered through live. If you put it on the modded xbox again to play some single player and anything is changed on the HD during play it will corrupt it again and you will have to recover again. When you recover your profile it reverts back to the gamerscore of the last time you were logged into xbox live. This is done to keep people from getting achievements on modded 360's then uploading them to live with legit 360's.
People need to stop talking about gut swapping. When you swap, your new serial number is on the case that you return. M$ looks up that SN on live and BAM!! There's you credit card and information for them to go after. It's fraud and definitely prosecutable. I know that modding isn't really on the level but lets stick to the things that don't involve mailing M$ solid evidence of the crime.
For the people who are thinking that M$ flagged everyone months ago and is banning everyone based on that data, what about the people who bought new 360's after getting banned (not yet knowing how severe it was), modded their new system, then got banned immediately when they logged into live? I'm sure your profile's flagged as well, but it seems a little harsh for them to get banned immediately. I think M$ has to have some way of reading FW or something very similar. Of course, that's all assuming that the people who posted that information weren't dirty informants sent to rile up false theories.
erm that profile info could be anyones... could be sold on craigslist, could be a friend that recovered a tag w.e. I know one of my several peices of crap had like 5 previous owners anyways that shi*'s all stored on the hd anyways.
tru but they still can just ban the consol and you well be back wear you started. they have the serial for all we know they could be doing that already.i say keep it buy another they are so chep right now and we dont know whats going on right now so it would be good to wait a bit anyway
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mack81
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12. November 2009 @ 22:18 |
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I have a liteon with 1.6 and i'm not banned yet, however i am flagged to be banned , i was playing retail of MW2 online tonight for about 3 hours. i've not signed back into live since and i've heard of people playing online ok but as soon as they sign out and back in they get banned.
not to fall into this trap could i hook up my hard drive to a standard unmodded console i have thats got a broken dvd drive, hook up to live and let that console get banned.
Then when the new firmware comes out i can flash my liteon and be back online
would this work?
if i'm flagged to be banned then its gonna come and i dont want my modded console to be banned
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mshockey
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12. November 2009 @ 23:18 |
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Originally posted by mack81:
I have a liteon with 1.6 and i'm not banned yet, however i am flagged to be banned , i was playing retail of MW2 online tonight for about 3 hours. i've not signed back into live since and i've heard of people playing online ok but as soon as they sign out and back in they get banned.
not to fall into this trap could i hook up my hard drive to a standard unmodded console i have thats got a broken dvd drive, hook up to live and let that console get banned.
Then when the new firmware comes out i can flash my liteon and be back online
would this work?
if i'm flagged to be banned then its gonna come and i dont want my modded console to be banned
Most likely not, they have probably flagged your xbox....not your profile, if not both. We don't know this for a fact but I would say it's about 98%. As soon as you get back on the modded 360 it will probably say you've been banned. Stay off it if you want to keep the ability to earn achievements on it.
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mshockey
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12. November 2009 @ 23:27 |
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Originally posted by John_Donn:
Hard to believe you read every page lol, that's like the Bible in length but anyways word on the street is people are getting banned? im confused i have a few questions?
1)why did this happen
2)Do i need new firmware
3)why doesnt this new tekken 6 or call of duty work?
4)can i still save games?
5)is my hard drive corrupt
6)Can i unban my xbox
8)Im getting a ps3
9)i skipped 7
10)Im just so confused?!?!?!
Lol, I know it sounds crazy but I have a lot of people looking to me for answer right now....haha, so far I have none. At least pertaining to how to get back online. I can probably answer yours though...
1) Most likely, M$ can now detect our FW....somehow.
2) New firmware is being worked on...ixtreme LT...no ETA
3) If you still have 1.6 then you need to use an activate.iso disc. Youtube for a tutorial
4)Yes, if you stay offline your xbox will be just like it would otherwise. If you get banned you will have problems.
5)Your hard drive will only be corrupt if you get banned. Actually, only your profile will be. Read my previous post for more info.
6)I have heard of a method...
Originally posted by ronan1990:
i would love to see this been done i have heard and see it done on cable modems and it works on themOriginally posted by BJJ_Playr:
First post here - Great forum.
I was on Craigslist and found a guy that claims he can "unban" your Xbox. I told him I was banned and wanted not to be. This is what he sent me back:
I have a program that can take the consoles id and replace it with another, which is what Microsoft uses to identify banned consoles
Obviously, it's not legit. However I did think you all would be interested as to how quick people are looking to take advantage.
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12. November 2009 @ 23:29 |
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question....u think its the serial or the mac address? can anyone try a wireless adapter to see if the get the connectivity?
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12. November 2009 @ 23:43 |
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I got banned, i turned on my 360 (Samsung MS-28) (flashed at 1.61) and tried to sign in and it said that cr@p about your banned yada yada.. so i take off my hdd and put it on my other 360 (Phillips - BenQ) (also at iXtreme 1.61) and try to connect w/ that one and i got banned on that one too! btw it erased my XBL account off my HDD!
So just be careful and wait for the new FW to be released, trust me, it's not worth it!
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mshockey
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12. November 2009 @ 23:58 |
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Originally posted by kjwgun:
I got banned, i turned on my 360 (Samsung MS-28) (flashed at 1.61) and tried to sign in and it said that cr@p about your banned yada yada.. so i take off my hdd and put it on my other 360 (Phillips - BenQ) (also at iXtreme 1.61) and try to connect w/ that one and i got banned on that one too! btw it erased my XBL account off my HDD!
So just be careful and wait for the new FW to be released, trust me, it's not worth it!
See if you can recover it. I haven't heard of that happening before.
1st ban) Slap...shame on you.
2nd ban) Ok, you lost if for good now.
That would really suck!
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13. November 2009 @ 00:11 |
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Just a thought.
I'm glad I'm banned. My son more so since I replaced his modded console with a legit one. The joy I saw in his eyes when he bought himself a legit GOW2 was far greater than my giving him 30 backup games. I guess I shouldn't have subjected him to such fear and anticipation with a modded console. At least with the modded console he was able to play all kind of games and now knows which types he likes. He will be buying new games with his own pocket money from now on and I'm sure he will be able to buy wisely. If you are going to spend your own money for legit games I guess you'll only be buying 4 or 5 must have games a year. That is not too bad.
Best of luck to all surviving fellow modders out there. Maybe I'll get myself another modded console when the ban dies down. It's fun for a pirate like me...lol.
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Nunta
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13. November 2009 @ 00:12 |
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I cant wait for this new firmware, i hope C4eva can figure it all out, and for all drives. I wish he would give us an ETA because it really sucks not being online, even if you are only playing single player. I like to see my friends on there and chat with them. Also im hanging for the arcade release of perfect dark and quake arena arcade...oh and serious sam hd.
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mshockey
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13. November 2009 @ 01:23 |
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if you buy a used console on ebay then sell it on ebay again after the ban is over you will only lose a minimal amount of money. Do the same thing with the games.
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mdn217
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13. November 2009 @ 02:13 |
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I dont know about your local walmart, but mine has a promo that if u buy an arcade xbox you get a $100 gift card...i bought one and im going to use it for a while on live until this ban wave subsides...
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Kenny25
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13. November 2009 @ 02:24 |
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I've been a XBOX live user since day 1. Had my 360 flashed about 3 weeks ago, before I knew the wave was still going. I've played Arkham Asylum and WET. I don't think I am flagged, I don't play on XBOX Live that often, but since I bought Modern Warfare 2, I've been on quite a bit. I wish I did not have my 360 modded..It's not fun turning on my system and being afraid of being banned every single time.
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kingofall
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13. November 2009 @ 04:09 |
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is that walmart promo still going on? i need another one. my axe just broke mine.
I am here standing. I never sit.
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helpmy360
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13. November 2009 @ 04:22 |
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I'm just going to flat out say my opinion, you all can believe in what I'm about to suggest or not. I've done many things in my life that involve taking apart a lot of things, there is always something that comes up in my mind as to what is plausible. I have concluded in my sense what I feel if I where to make a programmable machine and have the right mind to put in the code an error checking system that sends info packets to my company for fraud prevention reasons (As well as updates to fix the issues), I would certainly do so.
My observation of this ban wave is that, You are flagged (Yes, very obvious, but down to the basics.) You have done one of the following, (Played a game early, flashed w/ the xbox for a power source, played an unstealthed game, done something abnormal that an xbox shouldn't do, etc.) In this you have been flagged, by this time, Microsoft knows about this error, and knows you that you have violated the TOA, by which microsoft hold's your ban until they expect a game to sell very well so that in which return they can receive and increase on their money (Which is also very logical). Before all this, you could have been banned for being a sore thumb sticking out and the reason you get banned faster. After you have been flagged, they put you in their system to be banned next time you sign onto live, regardless of what you do to prevent it. And of course when a ban wave is going on, they will ban anybody who gets flagged in that session of the ban regardless of a wait system.
This is my theory, might be lame, but I believe some of it can be true to some extent, but we'll never know unless we have someone who can reverse engineer what is being done in the xbox to tell us.
Good Luck all, and for the update, I'm not banned yet (1.6 ix, no early games, all abgx checked, ms25 drive, gold membership). We'll see in the next coming months. =)
Edit 11/15/09: Banned, o well. I care less about the save to hd feature let alone live, lucky I can still play backups as well as play on my ps3. Good luck all. =)
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Bloodba7h
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13. November 2009 @ 04:45 |
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2 things:
My box got banned but my girlfriend has an xbox that's been modded but hasn't been online in quite a while (2-3 months.. hopefully avoided the hammer) .. what are her chances? Will it be possible to "unmod" her console so that she avoids the ban?
I have an elite with the bigass HD. I understand my saves are corrupt or something of the sort, but how will that react if I take this HD and stick it in a brand new arcade xbox? I can still save/install/not get banned again?
Thanks for any and all answers guys.
Hopefully we can unmod, I wanna play some MW2 online.
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goatboy84
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13. November 2009 @ 11:50 |
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So I bought a new xbox to use online and use my modded offline. Doing this do I need to even patch games anymore? They will only be played offline. I will be swapping my hdd back and forth. Will this show to Microsoft?
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mdn217
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13. November 2009 @ 11:52 |
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Originally posted by kingofall:
is that walmart promo still going on? i need another one. my axe just broke mine.
yes until the 15th! i wonder if you could buy 2 consoles and get 2 $100 gift cards and return the two consoles and get one for free....?? M$ will never winnnnnnnnnn!!!!!
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qwert99
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13. November 2009 @ 11:52 |
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Patch games to your heart's content. Play them early for that matter.
Swapping the HDD between banned/non-banned is fine.
Originally posted by mdn217:
i wonder if you could buy 2 consoles and get 2 $100 gift cards and return the two consoles and get one for free....?? M$ will never winnnnnnnnnn!!!!!
The Arcade+$100 gift card are going for $300 on eBay. You aren't just getting the 360 for free, you are making $100 profit.
$38 on new discs -- Check
$15 on burn after burn that showed as a DVD -- Check
$11 on new laser -- Check
$28 on new multimeter -- Check
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panispy
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13. November 2009 @ 12:01 |
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Originally posted by shine305:
Originally posted by panispy:
Originally posted by shine305:
Originally posted by Faridk89:
Originally posted by shine305:
unethical it is. but so is selling millons of consoles that you know are going to fail.[/quote
but they also fix them for free which is costing them serious amount of money.... so dont give me that lol
so its ok for them to sell a broken product. they fix it for free to avoid lawsuits and bad press. not because they care because if they did the would have fix it befor they sold them. the fial rate is super high. i have been through 3, my son 2, my bother 3 and lets not about my xbl friends list. every week ther is some one sending out mass msg about how they got the rings. some one on my list has been through 6.what if a resturant made you sick and said its ok i pay your hosptial bill.i know it not that serius. but you get my point dont just let them off the hook
Another idiot, loads of electrical items have faults at first sale, i have just bought a popcorn hour for £300 and its still got beta firmware on it ;)
sorry dont know wear you buy your stuff from. but i have never exprience nothing like the xbox fail rate. i buy tvs,cpu,laptop, dvd players, ipods and have every sytem since the orignal nes now i love my 360 the most. but lets just keep it real that is not normal.and ther still failing 4 years later let me get back to playing my unmodded 360. they baned my other one but thats ok i have a back up i bought 5 months ago only problem is that it frezzes every ten min. i give a good 2 weeks and ill be seeing red lights.
Serious i have had 2 xbox consoles and on my first i never turned it off and it lasted 2 years never a glitch never a freeze, until it was banned. Now thats my fault! Dont be bitter, i know pretty damn well you wont buy a ps3 zzzzz there pants! Its like wii online zzz ;)
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panispy
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13. November 2009 @ 12:06 |
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Originally posted by kjwgun:
I got banned, i turned on my 360 (Samsung MS-28) (flashed at 1.61) and tried to sign in and it said that cr@p about your banned yada yada.. so i take off my hdd and put it on my other 360 (Phillips - BenQ) (also at iXtreme 1.61) and try to connect w/ that one and i got banned on that one too! btw it erased my XBL account off my HDD!
So just be careful and wait for the new FW to be released, trust me, it's not worth it!
Liar!!
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13. November 2009 @ 12:50 |
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ok guys i'd like to say what happend to me.
firstly i have 2 elite consoles both benq drives and both flashed and updated every time new f/w hits xbins.
i was playin cod mw2 the day before it hit shops this was ripped from the genuine copy i pre-ordered which i received early i did several rips and checked all disc data matched (this was with a kreon sammy)
i was online and lagging crazy and freezing i pointed blame towards my console and took off my hdd and went to play on the one in the living room went to log in live and bam! your banned. Fair enough i knew the consiquence so i go back upstairs and sign in and have been on live all week nothing has changed on my hdd nor is the console banned?
(the lagging fault was down to my belkin router)
my point is what i can come up with is that they must send a signal to the hdd and when u sign back in it bans the console that been whichever console the hdd is on when you sign back into live.
my consoles only play stealth and verified games ran through abgx or riped by myself with the kreon and checked. also the one that got banned hadn't had the mw2 game in at all.
does the process of been banned sound correct and has anyone else had similar expirience.
this was also the older console of the 2 and all the poeple i know banned they all have old consoles the ones with later consoles are not but are playing the same games
is this an m$ stunt to get rid of old consoles and boost sales?
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goatboy84
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13. November 2009 @ 13:03 |
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I'm not banned but everyone I know is. So I'm just going to keep the mod offline so I can do hdd swaps with my new system and not lose achievements while playing on the mod. So you're saying I don't have to patch games anymore as the system will never be online again? I don't see how Microsoft would know.
Originally posted by qwert99:
Patch games to your heart's content. Play them early for that matter.
Swapping the HDD between banned/non-banned is fine.
Originally posted by mdn217:
i wonder if you could buy 2 consoles and get 2 $100 gift cards and return the two consoles and get one for free....?? M$ will never winnnnnnnnnn!!!!!
The Arcade+$100 gift card are going for $300 on eBay. You aren't just getting the 360 for free, you are making $100 profit.
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qwert99
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13. November 2009 @ 13:05 |
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Originally posted by goatboy84:
I'm not banned but everyone I know is. So I'm just going to keep the mod offline so I can do hdd swaps with my new system and not lose achievements while playing on the mod. So you're saying I don't have to patch games anymore as the system will never be online again? I don't see how Microsoft would know.
If a console is banned you don't have to ABGX patch at all. You can patch from wave X to wave X all you want.
Since yours isn't banned, you should keep doing all of the 'right' things.
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$15 on burn after burn that showed as a DVD -- Check
$11 on new laser -- Check
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Kenny25
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13. November 2009 @ 13:07 |
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So, now that Microsoft has reached there goals of 1 million banned consoles. Do you guys think the wave is over? Only thing I'm really worried about is the fall update next week.
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Foo2oo3
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13. November 2009 @ 13:32 |
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Originally posted by mdn217:
Originally posted by kingofall:
is that walmart promo still going on? i need another one. my axe just broke mine.
yes until the 15th! i wonder if you could buy 2 consoles and get 2 $100 gift cards and return the two consoles and get one for free....?? M$ will never winnnnnnnnnn!!!!!
All the walmarts here in Michigan only had a one day sale. It was Saturday, Nov 7. Suuuuucks
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