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Secret ACTA Internet chapter leaked: Global DMCA and 'three strikes'
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article published on 4 November, 2009
The highly secretive Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, which has been drafted under non-disclosure agreements and given to different nations with watermarks in case they choose to "leak" it, has had parts of its Internet chapter leaked this week, and is already facing massive criticism from mostly everyone who has read its scary bylines.
Under the new ACTA, the United States and ... [ read the full article ]
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4. November 2009 @ 22:54 |
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"This is just what we know so far. I can't imagine it could get any worse though."
I assume this is sarcasm. I wouldn't be suprised if they were working on software that must be installed on every computer that would scan for anything that might be copywrited in order to delete it...even if you owned it.
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DDR4life
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4. November 2009 @ 23:13 |
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Hmmm, this could be a good thing. Should all these measures actually go into effect, everyone will simply stop using the 'net; stop buying music CDs; stop buying DVDs; stop going to the movies. Then we'll see how the ISPs, the record companies, the riaa, the mpaa, et al deal with the total loss of the consumers they themselves have driven away.
( envisions these idiots crawling back to me, begging for my interest )
^_^ Ha, I can't wait.
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4. November 2009 @ 23:21 |
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-Worldwide DMCA: "Notice-and-takedown" letters must be adopted worldwide, requiring ISPs to take down any "infringing" material. There needs to be no evidence or trial, if the material gets flagged, it must be taken down.
Just how many amendments does that break?
Actually, just how many does it in a WHOLE does it break?
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4. November 2009 @ 23:23 |
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Its only a matter of time before the internet becomes derilict and a new seperate but similar system takes its place if this S*** keeps up. Some government needs to stand upto these ass hats and tell them that the internet is NOT something they are allowed to control.
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Morreale
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4. November 2009 @ 23:51 |
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This is disgusting. Are there people actually for this?
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5. November 2009 @ 00:50 |
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This is the most disgusting thing I have ever read. Ever.
*bleep* everything if this is put in place.
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windsong
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5. November 2009 @ 03:11 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
"This is just what we know so far. I can't imagine it could get any worse though."
I assume this is sarcasm. I wouldn't be suprised if they were working on software that must be installed on every computer that would scan for anything that might be copywrited in order to delete it...even if you owned it.
Instead of having personal hard drives, everything will be "streamed", after your authenticate yourself with your right hand of course.
Guess I will have to go live in some bloody cave somewhere. Preferably where its warm.
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5. November 2009 @ 03:32 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Its only a matter of time before the internet becomes derilict and a new seperate but similar system takes its place if this S*** keeps up. Some government needs to stand upto these ass hats and tell them that the internet is NOT something they are allowed to control.
This is the most likely outcome. A new internet. There are plenty of us that will simply not stand for this shit.
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siber
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5. November 2009 @ 03:53 |
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Sieg Heil!
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5. November 2009 @ 04:40 |
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If all this stuff goes through, I will not be able to justify using the intenet anymore. The DMCA has already given me reason to disconnect my cable tv...now these Nazi-Wannabe bastards are trying to make me turn off the internet. If this goes down, there will be nothing to keep me from moving to the woods with a pile of machine guns and the goggles from the new Modern Warefare.
Anyone else think that uncle sam is starting to look like an evil clown from a rob zombie movie?
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5. November 2009 @ 05:48 |
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Same as the other comments. This is NOT the Internet I imagined would happen or wanted.
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5. November 2009 @ 06:54 |
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God damn it! This is America and we aren't gonna tolerate this. I don't know about anyone else around the world but there is gonna be a serious backlash when this gets enforced. Damn liberal democrats trying to take away our freedoms and rights. This once great country is seeing some dark days ahead of her.
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5. November 2009 @ 07:40 |
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Originally posted by xnmalletx:
God damn it! This is America and we aren't gonna tolerate this. I don't know about anyone else around the world but there is gonna be a serious backlash when this gets enforced. Damn liberal democrats trying to take away our freedoms and rights. This once great country is seeing some dark days ahead of her.
Go shit in your hat. Liberals? Who are the pro corporate SOBs in this country that think corps should be able to do and say anything? If anything -- to be fair-- it is both. Both take money from the aholes that want to impose this.
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5. November 2009 @ 08:07 |
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Let it happen. I won't need that much bandwidth anymore, so I'll drop my cable level a tier. Internet would be just for random info and email for me. Whatever.
My money spreads around to a lot of different places, regardless of what I download. Preventing me from downloading doesn't give me more money to spend.
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5. November 2009 @ 08:10 |
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5. November 2009 @ 08:14 |
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Originally posted by xnmalletx:
God damn it! This is America and we aren't gonna tolerate this. I don't know about anyone else around the world but there is gonna be a serious backlash when this gets enforced. Damn liberal democrats trying to take away our freedoms and rights. This once great country is seeing some dark days ahead of her.
Go shit in your hat. Liberals? Who are the pro corporate SOBs in this country that think corps should be able to do and say anything? If anything -- to be fair-- it is both. Both take money from the aholes that want to impose this.
I'm not a political person, but the difference between both is one is pro-government control and the other is pro-greed. Pick your poison.
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5. November 2009 @ 08:30 |
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forcing ISPs to cut off multiple time offenders from the Internet after two warnings. If you are accused, you do not receive counsel or a trial.
How is that even possible... no bueno!
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5. November 2009 @ 08:53 |
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I am always drawn back to my days in school whe I read the book 1984.
Lets just re-release it and call it 2010 or Obama's world.
This is completely unacceptable. The government owns the auto industry and now it wants to control the virtual world. I knew we were in for it when O was elected for office.
I say we completely replace our current legislation with actual people, people who will understand, listen and actually do what we the people who elected them in the first place want done. Isn't that the whole purpose of government by the people for the people?
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5. November 2009 @ 09:10 |
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This has to be a joke. Every thing on this list have been proven to fail.
ISP's were never set up to be police so that whole "proactively" thing is hilarious. It'd be like hiring a new security guard at a mall and telling him he's now responsible for everything that has EVER been stolen.
3 strikes would be impossible to enforce world wide. Are we saying now China could make 3 claims on anybody they damn well please? Obama in prison for 3 unsubstantiated claims of downloading Beegees songs? To sweet.
Again with the DMCA, how the frak do they plan on enforcing that?? I'd like to see Pepsi get a C&D from some Malaysian company saying they own the rights to both the logo and name.
And DRM has been proven to not work. Done.
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5. November 2009 @ 09:25 |
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You are just finding out about this now???? This bill was introduced by a DEMOCRAT (sorry empulse)Sen Rockerfeller (who's family has more money then God) and one RINO Sen Olympia Snow (who votes with Democrats 98% of the time) So while a few of you may not like it, it is the DEMOCRATS that are trying to start this. With everything I read about the democrat I wonder just how someone can think it is ok for the US Government to control every aspect of your life from cradle to grave.
You can read the whole bill here
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s773/show
It has been read twice and referred to a committee and that is just Senate speak for it being sent to die there as it will never make it onto the committee's agenda to be given a hearing nor will it be allowed to come out from the committee for a full vote as the twit Rockerfeller was told in no uncertain terms that IF this was brought to the floor he would get exactly two votes, his and Snows; and not to be counting on Snows. As well as any damages done because of this bill to a citizen would place him in the rare position of being able to be sued by any citizen who was damaged by same, AND he would not receive any attorneys provided by the US Government, only provided by his wallet. If you call his office, they will tell you that they want nothing to do with this bill as he has received a load of shit from people demanding to know WTF he is doing/thinking!
If you want to contact him, here is his address and webpage
http://rockefeller.senate.gov/
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531 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-6472
Fax: 202-224-7665
let the games begin!
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5. November 2009 @ 09:27 |
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"This is just what we know so far. I can't imagine it could get any worse though." Well they might start sending pirates to death camps. Can't have the comapnies losing money now a days
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5. November 2009 @ 09:36 |
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Al Queda getting White House Internet Connection cut off coz they are downloading Osama videos :D
p.s.
Whoops I bet that sentence is setting off "Echelon" alarm bells all over the place
p.p.s.
Just to make sure...
Barrack
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5. November 2009 @ 10:00 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Its only a matter of time before the internet becomes derilict and a new seperate but similar system takes its place if this S*** keeps up. Some government needs to stand upto these ass hats and tell them that the internet is NOT something they are allowed to control.
Sorry man, the governments will never stand up to these @$$hats. They're either significantly, or completely run by them. The election system is a psychology trick that keeps the economic slaves from revolting and realizing that we're just as enslaved today as blacks were in southern american states in the early 1800's.
The plain fact of the matter is, while it sounds like "crazy conspiracy theory", the super-class made up of uber billionaires and trillionaires call most of the shots in the world, and are so good at the game we don't even see that often times entire countries are merely pawns.
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5. November 2009 @ 10:04 |
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Originally posted by Morreale:
This is disgusting. Are there people actually for this?
Yes, the media and all the politicians in their pockets. You are to be crushed! You really need to vote out every incumbant you can. They are your enemy! Then not buy any media. See how long their money holds up.
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5. November 2009 @ 10:32 |
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It is nice when ISP's, the MPAA, and the RIAA can write their own legislation. Assholes! Being kicked off of your internet provider without a right to defend yourself is not Freedom. We need Net Neutrality and the FCC to step in.
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