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7. July 2008 @ 03:13 |
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abuzar1,
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I have the power regulator things for my TV, etc.
Sounds to me like you are talking about a Surge protector! They can only do so much when it comes to computers! A UPS is a much better choice for computers. It has spike protection as well as line conditioning. In my eyes they are mandatory in places like Florida, Texas and the Mid-West. LOL!!
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7. July 2008 @ 06:08 |
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Good lord Mort, what's going on behind your realtemp windows? :)
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7. July 2008 @ 08:36 |
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Russ, why are you citing me for this quote?
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Check temps, overclock speeds and Prime95. We measured and overclocked at a 20 Degrees C ambient room temperature.
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7. July 2008 @ 08:38 |
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Sophocles,
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Russ, why are you citing me for this quote?
I'm sorry, I should have made it plain I was quoting the article! My Bad!
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7. July 2008 @ 09:46 |
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First thing first, drop two sticks of memory it is never a good idea to overclock with any more than two sticks. If you have to have 4 gigabytes then it is better to use 2X2 Gigabytes. You can test the platinum against the gold to determine which is the best of the two once you've reached the maximum setting for one. The OCz may not be all that robust so you will have some limitations.
Second you will have to boot into bios (I don't do soft overclocking}.
When you get to bios go to AI overclocker and set it to manual.
In "Extreme Teaker" set PCIEX16 to 100
In "Extreme Teaker" set FSB-memory clock mode to "unlinked"
Then go to overvolt here and note: that you will have to experiment a bit to get some of the settings right.
Set vcore (CPU} to 1.4
Memory to 2.1V
This way we won't have to deal with memory and CPU for a while.
These settings are a set as you go but here are some basic estimates to get you started.
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.2v to 1.6v in 0.5v increments
NB Core Voltage: 1.2v to 2.0v in 0.5v increments
SB Core Voltage: 1.5v to 1.6v in 0.5v increments
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.2v to 1.55v in 0.5v increments
Now you can start setting your FSB. Don't go crazy and set it to warp 10 right away. Work your way up in increments and test by rebooting each time.
corrected a minor error.
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7. July 2008 @ 09:55 |
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Using 4x1GB will certainly still let you overclock to a reasonable speed, but to go all out, you should be using 2x2GB. Soph is right on about mixing different types though, that's rarely a good idea stock, let alone when overclocking.
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7. July 2008 @ 11:12 |
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Using 4x1GB will certainly still let you overclock to a reasonable speed,
Depends on what you mean by reasonable. Filling up 4 memory slots can cause a major restriction to a successful overclock unless one has an unlocked CPU multiplier and is not overclocking the memory as well. In an overclock using 4 sticks of memory places more stress on the NB (memory controller) and can cause it to overheat with only modests increases. If even one stick of memory is not as good as the other three they will all default to the slower dimm. In any overclock 4 sticks of memory of any size is NEVER a good idea. If one wants 4 gigabytes it is better to get 2X2 gigabytes, but if one isn't interested in overclocking then go for it.
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7. July 2008 @ 12:00 |
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Well, using stock cooling my chipset rarely goes above 40ºC, and I have four sticks running a 75% overclock on my CPU. They are, however downclocked and loosened. I'd tighten them but to what end? My PC is plenty fast enough as it is.
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7. July 2008 @ 12:06 |
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Well, using stock cooling my chipset rarely goes above 40ºC, and I have four sticks running a 75% overclock on my CPU. They are, however downclocked and loosened. I'd tighten them but to what end? My PC is plenty fast enough as it is.
It doesn't change a thing it is not a good idea period!!!!!!!!
If I could bet my hands on your system I would find all kinds of faults. No serius overclocker use 4 dimms. Run a memory test and post the result.
And your overclock is 75% over what with what?
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7. July 2008 @ 12:13 |
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Why is it not a good idea? To run a system for over four months with no unexplained crashes I must have got something right!
While you are very more adept at pulling off top-end overclocks than me Soph, I often think you go too far to make overclocking sound like an art. It needn't be any more. Squeezing those last few mhz out of a CPU is always a trial, but to say you can't get decent results from spending mere seconds in the BIOS is nonsense if you have the slightest idea what you're doing. Same here - just because four sticks isn't the optimal configuration for overclocking doesn't mean it won't work. If you wanted to overclock an E6420 or whatever I wouldn't advise it because you'd be looking at very high bus speeds, but for a 1400 FSB this combination has worked for me and I see no reason why it wouldn't work for anyone else.
I'm running a 1.8Ghz E4300 at 3.15Ghz.
What memory test would you like me to run?
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7. July 2008 @ 12:30 |
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Why is it not a good idea? To run a system for over four months with no unexplained crashes I must have got something right!
Run a stability test on it and see how long it's stable. Also the E4300 is an underclocked Core 2 duo with a rated FSB speed of 800 MHz that comes from a series of CPUs that were made to run at 1066 MHz and has a rated overclocking potential of 3.4 GHz. To extrapolate from that and make recommendations to someone preparing to overclock a Q6700 which is already running at 1066 MHz with two sets of unmatched dimms is reckless. Do a little web surfing to some serious overclock forums and find out what experienced overclockers have to say. This experienced overclocker says unless you want to give up performance and potential stick with two dimms.
Now what about that memory bench.
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7. July 2008 @ 12:47 |
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Memory benchmark, which, Sandra? Everest? I've only recently posted one of those...
Here it is again.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4012/memoryreadcm8.jpg
I know this isn't a particularly good result, but in the real world it hasn't affected me in the slightest - I get the same performance in CPU intensive apps like winrar and high end games that other people do.
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7. July 2008 @ 12:54 |
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I know this isn't a particularly good result, but in the real world it hasn't affected me in the slightest - I get the same performance in CPU intensive apps like winrar and high end games that other people do.
That's what brobear used to get on his Dell P4 system. Now you may not notice anything while using it but you are losing performance.
What I've been trying to say is that using 4 dimms for overclocking is antithetical. Most people who've tried it ended up running memory speeds quite low. Now provide a memory shot using CPU-Z.
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7. July 2008 @ 13:00 |
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Do one with Sisoft 2007, I think that's an old version of everest and it is probably not a good measure of a Core2 duo.
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7. July 2008 @ 13:13 |
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You would have a better performing system if you were drop 2 of the dims and increase you memory speed. A 32 bit system can only address 4096 megabytes of memory. That includes all items in your system such as your graphics card so by the time it all adds up you're using about 3.25 Gigabytes fo the total. Your system is running at about DDR2 350.
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7. July 2008 @ 13:26 |
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as it stands right now, I gain more performance from not running out of memory than I do from getting rid of it. I used to run the exact same overclock with only two sticks of RAM and I really don't notice the difference at all, and on that basis I don't really care if my system is underperforming in synthetic tests, because in the real world it isn't.
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7. July 2008 @ 13:36 |
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I don't really care if my system is underperforming in synthetic tests, because in the real world it isn't.
Nice rationale but one that is unfortunately probably not true. your memory settings are bottlenecking your system, but it's your system. Just don't suggest that kind of performance off on someone else. If you've noticed I am also running 4 gigabytes of memory, but on two sticks instead of 4 and hence great performance and no bottlenecks.
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7. July 2008 @ 14:03 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
im1992
First thing first, drop two sticks of memory it is never a good idea to overclock with any more than two sticks. If you have to have 4 gigabytes then it is better to use 2X2 Gigabytes. You can test the platinum against the gold to determine which is the best of the two once you've reached the maximum setting for one. The OCz may not be all that robust so you will have some limitations.
Second you will have to boot into bios (I don't do soft overclocking}.
When you get to bios go to AI overclocker and set it to manual.
In "Extreme Teaker" set PCIEX16 to 100
In "Extreme Teaker" set FSB-memory clock mode to "unlinked"
Then go to overvolt here and note: that you will have to experiment a bit to get some of the settings right.
Set vcore (CPU} to 1.4
Memory to 2.1V
This way we won't have to deal with memory and CPU for a while.
These settings are a set as you go but here are some basic estimates to get you started.
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.2v to 1.6v in 0.5v increments
NB Core Voltage: 1.2v to 2.0v in 0.5v increments
SB Core Voltage: 1.5v to 1.6v in 0.5v increments
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.2v to 1.55v in 0.5v increments
Now you can start setting your FSB. Don't go crazy and set it to warp 10 right away. Work your way up in increments and test by rebooting each time.
corrected a minor error.
thank you very much!
the voltages helped a looooooot
well, i can boot it at 350 x 6multi for 2100mhz (this was just to see where the motherboard's limits were
now i am stable at 337.6 x 10multi for 3375mhz! with 1.4v (CPU voltage)...
is this a good start? and can i take it higher or should i just live with this overclock? the CPU now idles at 18 degrees C instead of the 17 degrees C I was seeing before the overclock...
sorry for such a late response (i had summer school in the morning)
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7. July 2008 @ 14:08 |
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You should be able to take higher but you should test it for temperatures and stability along the way. If things get difficult to move higher then try it with only two sticks of memory.
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7. July 2008 @ 14:13 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
You should be able to take higher but you should test it for temperatures and stability along the way. If things get difficult to move higher then try it with only two sticks of memory.
this is with only one stick (1 gb of Platinum)
is it true that switching from Channel A to Channel B increases overclock?
i think i have reached the limits of my CPU cause 10 x 350 wouldn't boot...but 6 x 350 would....
9 x 350 also boots up...
could you tell me which voltages effect the CPU overclock directly? i don't need a higher FSB, all i need is for the CPU to run at 350 x 10 or 340 x10 and i would be happy...
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7. July 2008 @ 14:15 |
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Go ahead and add a second stick it won't make any difference unless one stick is bad.
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is it true that switching from Channel A to Channel B increases overclock?
I doubt it. LOL
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7. July 2008 @ 14:20 |
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well i just did 350 x 10 and it worked!!! with 1.5v (is this bad?)
will this hurt my CPU in the long run (1 year?)
as long as i keep it cool, i am good right?
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7. July 2008 @ 14:23 |
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Are you certain that you need 1.5v? At only 3.5 GHz I figure 1.4-1.44 should be enough.
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7. July 2008 @ 14:25 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
Are you certain that you need 1.5v? At only 3.5 GHz I figure 1.4-1.44 should be enough.
well
it doesnt matter cause the moment i ran Orthos...it crashed....even restarted by it self (no BSOD or anything!)
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