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9. July 2008 @ 17:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I decided to set my OC back a little since I felt I was pushing things a little hard for daily use. I dropped it back to 3.83ghz for the time being anyways.

Soph,

a few question for you if you don't mind as I'm still learning as well. I'm trying to lower some voltages a little.

I have my NB voltage set at 1.45v. std is 1.25v. on auto the mobo overvolts it to 1.62 which is too high for my liking. I did have it at 1.55v.

I have my FSBT voltage set at 1.39v which is exactly the same voltage it sets to on auto. std is 1.20v. funny thing is, when I manually set it to 1.39v the setting turns yellow (warning) although it's the same voltage as when set to auto. I did have it at 1.42v.

how do these voltages look to you? these voltage settings are one thing I am yet to master and probably set them higher than necessary sometimes.



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9. July 2008 @ 17:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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How are your temperatures? As long as they re in line then 1.45v is just fine even with a yellow indicator, but if they're constantly running high then you might want to look at adding a fan to it. The same can be said of all of your settings. The key is always temperatures. I know I said spoke some about electromigration but that's directed more to long term use. In a year from now we will be discussing a completely different setups.;)

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Originally posted by Sophocles:
Mort

How are your temperatures? As long as they re in line then 1.45v is just fine even with a yellow indicator, but if they're constantly running high then you might want to look at adding a fan to it. The same can be said of all of your settings. The key is always temperatures. I know I said spoke some about electromigration but that's directed more to long term use. In a year from now we will be discussing a completely different setups.;)
they're a little on the warm side during the summer months. I keep the thermostat at 76F in the summer and 73F in the winter.

my mobo temp now is 36C (32-33 winter months) and my NB is 45C (42-43 winter months). the thermal limit for my NB is 90C which I thought was amazing.

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Originally posted by Mort81:
I decided to set my OC back a little since I felt I was pushing things a little hard for daily use. I dropped it back to 3.83ghz for the time being anyways.

Soph,

a few question for you if you don't mind as I'm still learning as well. I'm trying to lower some voltages a little.

I have my NB voltage set at 1.45v. std is 1.25v. on auto the mobo overvolts it to 1.62 which is too high for my liking. I did have it at 1.55v.

I have my FSBT voltage set at 1.39v which is exactly the same voltage it sets to on auto. std is 1.20v. funny thing is, when I manually set it to 1.39v the setting turns yellow (warning) although it's the same voltage as when set to auto. I did have it at 1.42v.

how do these voltages look to you? these voltage settings are one thing I am yet to master and probably set them higher than necessary sometimes.
3.83 is a jaw dropping speed! very very nice overclock! is this a 45nm? (the server part to the e8400?)
i need to run higher NB and FSB voltages just to get to 3.3ghz.....
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9. July 2008 @ 18:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
im,

it's a E3110 45nm cpu. the xeon version of the E8400. I had been running at 4.0ghz but decided to back it down a little for daily use.


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Originally posted by Mort81:
im,

it's a E3110 45nm cpu. the xeon version of the E8400. I had been running at 4.0ghz but decided to back it down a little for daily use.
niceee
which batch is it?
thanks,
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I don't even know. I bought it tray/oem since I intend on upgrading to a Q9450 before long. no purdy box with all the numbers and I didn't bother to write anything down off the top of the cpu.

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There is a subtle difference between the E3110 and the E8400. The E3110 is binned for its lower voltages because most xeons are bought for use in servers where power savings are the most important factors. Other than that they are the same.

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Originally posted by Sophocles:
There is a subtle difference between the E3110 and the E8400. The E3110 is binned for its lower voltages because most xeons are bought for use in servers where power savings are the most important factors. Other than that they are the same.
is it possible that intel has been binning q6700/q6600 a lil higher cause they figured out that we (overclockers) love cpus with low VIDs?
cause my q6700 runs Prime 95 for 8hrs (stopped by me) with only 1.2v(set in BIOS) and about 1.15 (after vdroop)....on stock speed
but the VID for my cpu is 1.325v.....
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hi,
i did a mod to my CPU that allows it to run at 333 x 9 (it doesnt load windows at 333 x 10 w/default voltages) at default voltages!!! no need to pump voltage to the NB or the CPU!
sorry for the crappy pic, i just got a new camera and don't really know how to use it yet....


all credit goes to this thread....: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=546760
hope this helps you GM....if you are still gonna overclock that is...
thanks,
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So did you get 3.3 or 3Ghz? I thought that pinmod only did 3Ghz.

Oh and you need to enable macro mode on your camera. It's the flower icon.
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I make 333x9 to be 3Ghz... :)



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I mean is it POSSIBLE to get 3.3 if you raise the voltage?
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I make 333x9 to be 3Ghz
And just barely 3 GHz at that. Didn't you have a solid 3.2 GHz not long ago?

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I'm sure it would be. Not sure how far he's willing to take it though, seemingly not very far, which is wise.



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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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I make 333x9 to be 3Ghz
And just barely 3 GHz at that. Didn't you have a solid 3.2 GHz not long ago?
it is stable at 3.3ghz with 1.45v (which i think is too high for such a small speed increase).
before the pin-mod, 3ghz wasn't possible w/o changing the voltage for the CPU as well as for mostly everything else on the motherboard...
with this, no voltage change was required at all!
and i also believe that with this pin-mod i can take the cpu higher (3.6 - i am hoping on air cooling)....
i read on that same thread that i made the reference to that the NB also has latencies and that's what affects the overclock but when the motherboard thinks that it has a 1333mhz stock CPU in it, it increases the overclock ability a bit...
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I'm sure it would be. Not sure how far he's willing to take it though, seemingly not very far, which is wise.
lol, yea
dont wanna "take care" of this CPU within the first week....
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what is LDT frequency?
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LDT frequency
It's a Nvidia setting that was common on socket 939 boards which involved the Hyper Transport Settings. Somehow it's found it's way on to Nvidia boards for Intel processors as well. It connected the North Bridge to the South Bridge. Hyper Transport was AMD's equivalent of FSB. Not owning a board with Nvidia chipsets and not intending to any time soon that's about as much as I can give you, but it would seem that it probably involves a relationship between FSB and memory, but that's just a guess.

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I remember seeing this on the P5N-E. I never adjusted it and did alright, but then I don't adjust much... :)



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well, i guess i shouldnt mess with LDT then (since we dont know what it would do...)
i am at 3.33ghz now.... with CPU voltage at 1.40v and everything else at stock! this is pretty good considering i had to up the other voltages quite a bit b4 the mod...
333 x 10
now.....for the testing, will post back later
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On a socket 939 board lowering it was a bit like using a memory divider. Socket 939 boards had a FSB of 200 which when multiplied by 5 gave it a FSB per core of 1000 Mhz. To overclock a 939 processor a fist step was dropping the HT to a multiple of 4 which allowed one to increase the the effective FSB (AMD's on actually have an {FSB) to 250 for the same bus width. Just an example.

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Originally posted by Sophocles:
On a socket 939 board lowering it was a bit like using a memory divider. Socket 939 boards had a FSB of 200 which when multiplied by 5 gave it a FSB per core of 1000 Mhz. To overclock a 939 processor a fist step was dropping the HT to a multiple of 4 which allowed one to increase the the effective FSB (AMD's on actually have an {FSB) to 250 for the same bus width. Just an example.

does this have the same effect with intel CPUs?
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is there a pin mod for 1333mhz fsb -> 1600mhz fsb?
and if so, will the Striker boot at 1600mhz fsb default Front Side Bus?
any help would be appreciated,
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is there a pin mod for 1333mhz fsb -> 1600mhz fsb?
A 1600 MHz FSB is not actually supported in DDR2 motherboards, but some of the board manufacturers added it anyway. The stiker extreme should be able to hit 1700 MHz so trying to pin mod the board to do what it can already do is probably not worth the effort, but that's up to each individual to decide. I used to screw around with pencil mods in the early days because it could unlock the clock multiplier, and a few graphics cards to unlock disabled hardware to make it a higher model version, but for no other reason. I've even reflashed some graphics cards to a higher model and so far I've been lucky. With the right hardware I've found no reason to pin mod. My current FSB settings are 1708.2 MHz which is more than enough jolt for my money and without altering the board.

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