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Pl4za
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27. February 2010 @ 14:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi

My games started to freeze with the sound still playing so i decided to apply the xclamp fix. it didn't solve the problem, so i did the penny fix witch didn't solve it either.

What other solutions do i have before going to the heatgun fix ? (these are kinda expensive here)

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27. February 2010 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
that happen to me

12v should fix it.

you just gonna have a jet engine running constantly

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27. February 2010 @ 14:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Now that i remember when i had the case opened with a 80mm fan on the GPU and another on the cpu it almost didn't crashed...

But why do i need so much cooling ? I don't get it lol
Pl4za
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27. February 2010 @ 15:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just tried a game with a fan on gpu and another on the cpu.
Crashed in the loading...

it's getting worse
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28. February 2010 @ 05:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
After the xclamp fix do you overheat the console? You should do the llamma xclamp fix and overheat the gpu while cooling the cpu.

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/rin...x-clamp_fix.htm

It sounds like the ram is having continuity issues and is causing the console to freeze. If the penny trick didn't work the only other options are to whip out the heatgun or get the board reflowed.

Pl4za
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28. February 2010 @ 08:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes i overheated the GPU alot while cooling the cpu.
i think the problem like you said is the memory.
I think i will borrow a heatgun from someone and try.

Can you point me to a good tutorial to heatgun only the memory?

thank's for the reply !
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28. February 2010 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The link in my sig will reflow the ram. It's good to spread the heat around the board rather than focusing only on one component.

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28. February 2010 @ 13:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just get a reflow. The heatgun fix and towel fix are liable to trash your xbox. Reflows only cost like 35 bucks. Definitely cheaper than a new xbox, and really effective as well.

When you have a reflow done, make sure you undo your xclamp and penny fix first. Those honestly just break even more solder balls. Not very good fixes.

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Pl4za
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28. February 2010 @ 14:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
but i don't know where i can get a reflow around here..
and this xbox cost me 35$ i really didn't wan't to spend alot of money in it.

if i can a place where i can reflow it (wich i doubt it) i will do it, if not then i will use the heatgun and then post results here.

Regards and thanks for the replies :)
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8. March 2010 @ 16:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I did a oven reflow,
and now it starts to boot but the ring doesn't light up, only the center light, and after about 60 seconds it gets ROD...
Always, even without AV cable (with 4 red lights blinking) it still gets ROD after those 60 seconds...

I melted the sync button i can't see the error code...

What can it be?
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8. March 2010 @ 16:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Probably 0022 (this error takes ages to show up). People say it's bridged solder under the GPU but it could be a cold joint and possibly under the southbridge.




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Pl4za
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8. March 2010 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what can i do to fix it ?
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8. March 2010 @ 16:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Pl4za:
what can i do to fix it ?
Get a reflow (expensive), or Heat Gun the GPU and Southbridge using the link in w00ly's sig as a tutorial (make sure to keep the heat moving).




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Pl4za
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8. March 2010 @ 16:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok i will try to get one...
i thought the oven reflow solved all problems :(

thanks for the help :)
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9. March 2010 @ 08:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by budro:
Just get a reflow. The heatgun fix and towel fix are liable to trash your xbox. Reflows only cost like 35 bucks. Definitely cheaper than a new xbox, and really effective as well.

When you have a reflow done, make sure you undo your xclamp and penny fix first. Those honestly just break even more solder balls. Not very good fixes.

Regards

Budro
Just out of interest Budro, did you have a bad experience with the heatgun fix? I found it fixes bout 80% or so RROD (when combined with xclamp removal & flux). I have melted a few eject & sync buttons, but all I do is add extra protection on them when I do the fix. I haven't had any returns yet either.

Dont get me wrong, I do agree a proper re-flow (with a rework station) is the way to go if you have access, but not many people do.



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Pl4za
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9. March 2010 @ 12:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i don't know anyone who have a heatgun... i will put it in the oven again in a few weeks, at a higher temperature.
Pl4za
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10. March 2010 @ 08:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i put the board in the oven at 260º for 5 minutes only leaving the southbridge exposed and still the same error...
30 seconds trying to boot and then ROD...
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10. March 2010 @ 09:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would never ever ever put a 360 in the oven, if heatgun fails then thats me done!

Pl4za try the heatgun method, if you dont have one, then buy one. They are like £10



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10. March 2010 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Pl4za:
I did a oven reflow,
and now it starts to boot but the ring doesn't light up, only the center light, and after about 60 seconds it gets ROD...
Always, even without AV cable (with 4 red lights blinking) it still gets ROD after those 60 seconds...

I melted the sync button i can't see the error code...

What can it be?
why would any put their xbox in an oven? All the fixes in this thread will do ruin your xbox. Here's why:

1.) Penny fix (Flexes motherboard and will crack solder even more)
2.) Oven (you've got to be kidding) Melt your xbox?
3.) Xclamp is a temp fix and will eventually RR again

More than likely you're destroying your xbox.
Pl4za
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10. March 2010 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i'm done with the oven method, tried again same thing.
i will try to buy a heatgun...

or i will just buy a new one and sell the parts
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Pl4za
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10. March 2010 @ 11:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh i forgot, the board has alot of glue from the cellotape and electric tape, can it interfere with the connections or something ?
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