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AfterDawn redesign aka "v4" goes live

article published on 16 March, 2010

After almost a year's worth of development, we're happy to reveal the new version of our site, dubbed as "v4". Many things have changed since the previous version - most notably the layout itself, but also the code behind the site has went through some major changes. From now on, all of our various language versions will use the same codebase and same site structure, making further development ... [ read the full article ]

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domie
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17. March 2010 @ 06:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Strange - seems really slow to me and I got a warning from my security software that the page was trying to redirect me to a scam hacking site in India and my PC was being attacked !!! ( This only happened during attempting to open this page for the first time )
Oh yeah feedback - I don't like it at all but then that's just my opinion. Too many wide empty spaces and a bit kiddy graphics like.
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17. March 2010 @ 06:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Deadrum33:
For the last few years I have read more than I post due to the fact that I do most of my recreational internetting at work and my company's internet filter would not allow me to login or post to the threads I read. This new format must employ a different script because I am currently at work and posting this.
I give myself a week or 2 to bump up to addict status LOL!!!
That's good to hear. =) There's a couple of different ways for logging in in the new version, so blocking the old login system doesn't prohibit logging in at v4.

Originally posted by domie:
Strange - seems really slow to me and I got a warning from my security software that the page was trying to redirect me to a scam hacking site in India and my PC was being attacked !!! ( This only happened during attempting to open this page for the first time )
Oh yeah feedback - I don't like it at all but then that's just my opinion. Too many wide empty spaces and a bit kiddy graphics like.
This issue is being discussed over here. Hopefully we can find the source of the malware ads soon!


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17. March 2010 @ 08:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im loving the look it also seems faster nice job guys.
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17. March 2010 @ 09:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ketola:
Originally posted by 7thsinger:
Now onto my question; how does one go about posting in another user's shoutbox. Perhaps i simply overlooked something but was unable to determine how this is done via the new format.
That's a very good question. I couldn't figure that one out myself either. Got to report and check that. =)

Thank you. I appreciate you looking into it.

Originally posted by Deadrum33:
I give myself a week or 2 to bump up to addict status LOL!!!
lol...we're timing you bro. ;)


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17. March 2010 @ 09:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
still love the older(darker) version..but i'll get used to it..appreciate all the hard work you all put into it,.
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17. March 2010 @ 09:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Intugo:
There's a bug with the code tag I think, the text goes out of borders.

Example:

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This text here, yes THIS text, will go OOB (Out of border) and it will reach all the way over --------------------------------------------> -_- <-------------------------


Fixed. Thanks for telling us about the bug :-)
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17. March 2010 @ 09:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just wish people would stop using 'code' for quoting text, imho they should just use 'quote' instead, maybe 'code' can be removed ?, is it even necessary ?
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17. March 2010 @ 11:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another interesting little bug i found is that when i go into my settings then access my PM's the rest of the page is in Finnish.


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17. March 2010 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 7thsinger:
Another interesting little bug i found is that when i go into my settings then access my PM's the rest of the page is in Finnish.
Nah, that's not a bug, we just try to persuade people to adopt Finnish as the universally understood language, nothing more. Luckily we have Nokia and Linux to assist us -- slowly, year by year, Nokia's GUI will have more and more words in Finnish, until everybody in the world knows that "Osoitekirja" means "Address book", etc. But hey, that's highly classified info -- and the time is not ripe yet, so I'll ask guys to change the page into English (for now..).

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17. March 2010 @ 14:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by creaky:
I just wish people would stop using 'code' for quoting text, imho they should just use 'quote' instead, maybe 'code' can be removed ?, is it even necessary ?
i agree, but im sure it exists for a reason.


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17. March 2010 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dRD:
This issue was discussed in detail back in February when the beta version of v4 went live. Fixed width makes the site easier to read , now that we're in an era where there isn't any "standard" screen size anymore. There is a good reason why newspapers and magazines are split into columns - and have been for centuries :-)

I'd also like to stress that the launch of the new layout is just the "Step 1" in our long term development plan. We have tons of interesting stuff in the pipelines, but switching from the old v3 to v4 was necessary to carry out before those changes, as it eases our development _so_ much due more logical site structure, "each section stands alone as its own entity" thinking and due the new translation engine where each and every piece of text you see on the site comes from an unified translation database.

Thus, stepping into "v4 era" will also mean that you'll see new features and improvements added much, much faster to the site than what has been possible in the past.
i hope so. added features also mean more overhead, so don't crazy with them yah know. @1680x1050 the borders are quite large.
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17. March 2010 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dRD:
Originally posted by 7thsinger:
Another interesting little bug i found is that when i go into my settings then access my PM's the rest of the page is in Finnish.
Nah, that's not a bug, we just try to persuade people to adopt Finnish as the universally understood language, nothing more. Luckily we have Nokia and Linux to assist us -- slowly, year by year, Nokia's GUI will have more and more words in Finnish, until everybody in the world knows that "Osoitekirja" means "Address book", etc. But hey, that's highly classified info -- and the time is not ripe yet, so I'll ask guys to change the page into English (for now..).
Well, now that you've explained it i see where you're heading. But you need to know: Me engliss iz not so goods so i may havee problums wiff anouther languag.

Thanks dRD. I appreciate you stalling the Finnish language take-over...at least for our PM's. :-)


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17. March 2010 @ 22:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The flash ads block some posts making them unreadable. I think I'm still partial to the old site design, will take some getting used to. Please fix the flash ads showing up twice and blocking some posts.
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17. March 2010 @ 23:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dRD:
There is a good reason why newspapers and magazines are split into columns - and have been for centuries :-)
So AD is moving into the future by holding on to CENTURIES of the past???
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18. March 2010 @ 08:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by llongtheD:
The flash ads block some posts making them unreadable. I think I'm still partial to the old site design, will take some getting used to. Please fix the flash ads showing up twice and blocking some posts.
Providing a screenshot of such ads would probably be beneficial to finding which particular ads are at fault.


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18. March 2010 @ 10:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by dRD:
There is a good reason why newspapers and magazines are split into columns - and have been for centuries :-)
So AD is moving into the future by holding on to CENTURIES of the past???
Well.. Yes. We are also sticking to the Latin alphabet even though it's thousands of years old. We did think about switching to KLI pIqaD, but quite few seem to have it installed.

The point: sometimes there's a good reason for sticking to old customs. Google around for readability and usability and you'll run into some mighty interesting stuff. =)

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18. March 2010 @ 23:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Had some concerns about page width but all has been explained by dRD via email... Otherwise the rest of the re-design is tight. Feels much more modern, considering the basic mechanics and layout hadn't changed at all since I joined 4 years ago.

Also, I noticed the flash ad banners as well. Frequently showing up in duplicates or in the wrong place. ctrl+F5 fixes them though.

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We did think about switching to KLI pIqaD, but quite few seem to have it installed.
LOL if there's a Klingon version available I'm game XD

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19. March 2010 @ 08:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Estuansis:
Also, I noticed the flash ad banners as well. Frequently showing up in duplicates or in the wrong place. ctrl+F5 fixes them though.
If possible, please take a screenshot of the problem and we'll forward to the appropriate ad network. Where exactly do the mis-placed Flash advertisements appear?

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MOON786, try posting in the correct forum as this has nothing to do with the news & also off topic which is a forum rule no no.
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19. March 2010 @ 20:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ketola:
Originally posted by Estuansis:
Also, I noticed the flash ad banners as well. Frequently showing up in duplicates or in the wrong place. ctrl+F5 fixes them though.
If possible, please take a screenshot of the problem and we'll forward to the appropriate ad network. Where exactly do the mis-placed Flash advertisements appear?
Currently a Nissan ad. Right below the the log-in box at the top of the page. Sometimes another one will render directly below it, blocking out the text.
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20. March 2010 @ 19:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Ketola:
Originally posted by 7thsinger:
Now onto my question; how does one go about posting in another user's shoutbox. Perhaps i simply overlooked something but was unable to determine how this is done via the new format.
That's a very good question. I couldn't figure that one out myself either. Got to report and check that. =)

I see this has been handled. Thank you. ;)


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20. March 2010 @ 21:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Great improvement. i love the new site v4 great JOB keeep it up!!
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21. March 2010 @ 10:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have found a bug.

If you try to click on the green "good response" vote button on an answer you wrote yourself, you receive a message saying :

"The page at http://www.afterdawn.com says :

Unspecified Error"



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22. March 2010 @ 02:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Great big uh oh. What happened to the ability to edit and delete comments from your shoutbox or those you posted in someone else's shoutbox on their profile page. This is very very bad that it's gone now. Neither I nor the person I sent the comment to can delete it and it was only meant to be temporary. Especially since you have no way of prescreening comments on your shoutbox and we both have seen random people put things in the past that we didn't want to stay there, or in this case, wanted something to be on only temporarily. He's ready to take down his whole page over this not being an option anymore. And wait-- how come I can edit this here but not on those pages? no fair.

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