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IsoHunt ordered to take down torrents, site likely to close
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article published on 1 April, 2010
Update: We have been contacted by Ira P. Rothken: "I am the lawyer for Isohunt in their litigation against the Major Movie Studios. There is no injunction in the Isohunt case. The parties are still briefing what an injunction, if any, will look like."
In a decision that will likely take down the giant torrent indexer, a judge has ordered IsoHunt to remove all torrents linking to infringing content.
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10. April 2010 @ 13:40 |
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Bad rap? I was unaware of that. But they're not my one stop shop, if you will LOL! I actually use several. I just thought that it was interesting that they STRONGLY resemble Mininova. Probably the same designers ;)
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graygit
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10. April 2010 @ 15:59 |
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Originally posted by mike.m:
First Pirate Bay, then Mininova, now Isohunt. What the hell is going on here? Now we're left with bad torrent sites. Hopefully one of the owners of these sites stands up and makes a come back. FIGHT THE POWER! :D
I know what you mean downloading "shearing" will soon be a thing of the passed
BUT what will happen to people like us using the site can we be prosecuted even if we use it for none profit home use
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10. April 2010 @ 20:09 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Never used Isohunt much anyway. Used to love mininova though. Such a shame about Torrentspy, and thepiratebay as well. There are other sites though. There always will be.
Probably shouldn't say this, but it's probably been said somewhere anyway:
Mininova...Mightynova...Hmmm. They look incredibly similar. Wonder why that is LOL!!! ;)
Isohunt listed everything on Mininova, Pirate Bay and at least a dozen more. Maybe you should have taken advantage when you had the chance. ISO also listed each of the trackers that tracked the job. This would allow you to middleman between several trackers so you could bring back dead torrents from the grave.
I think they (ISO) have done their share. They can't stand up to the cartel. I haven't bought anything new from the 'cartel' in a few years. I do buy music from indies and small labels to support good work.
They may be down already. I just check a few things. They are listed but they are not in the database.
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10. April 2010 @ 20:23 |
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I support good work as well. I bought GTA IV, I plan on buying Avatar when it comes out on blu-ray, and of course I'll buy music too, if its worth my time. Most bands today sound either like a rip-off, or just don't sound worth buying. I think the industry doesn't understand. If something is worth buying most GOOD people will open up their wallet. Anydvd is the best decrypter I've ever used. Dvd rebuilder is the best software for converting Dvd's that I've ever used. They BOTH got their fair return from me :D
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11. April 2010 @ 04:54 |
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Torrents are legal as it's simply a protocol that's it.
It's a bit like TV signals.
Index sites if linking to copyright files would be breaking the law as you can't allow coping or broadcasting of copyright files.
Just look on the back of any DVD or CD it's even written on the disk.
People are going to complain because they do also have stuff you couldn't get otherwise besides copyright files.
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11. April 2010 @ 12:34 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I support good work as well. I bought GTA IV, I plan on buying Avatar when it comes out on blu-ray, and of course I'll buy music too, if its worth my time. Most bands today sound either like a rip-off, or just don't sound worth buying. I think the industry doesn't understand. If something is worth buying most GOOD people will open up their wallet. Anydvd is the best decrypter I've ever used. Dvd rebuilder is the best software for converting Dvd's that I've ever used. They BOTH got their fair return from me :D
Statistically, pirates purchase more of what they pirate than non pirates. I pump a good deal of money into the music industry but not one thin dime to the big guys except for concerts. I put concerts into a different category. If the fat cats are willing to get off their asses and perform I am willing to pay. I will not go to Robert Plant, U2, Kiss or 'The Boss' because of bad attitudes.
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11. April 2010 @ 13:13 |
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11. April 2010 @ 14:33 |
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Originally posted by Arniceous:
I THINK THIS SUMMARIZES IT
You lost me... Do you mean if you go to a top proxy site you will be eaten by a spider?
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12. April 2010 @ 05:19 |
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Will someone please tell me why everyone who publishes a Bible claim a copyright for the works? What is the court of competent juristiction for this matter?
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12. April 2010 @ 09:49 |
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Zoolook, you are mistaken. Daniel_1 got it right on the nose. Torrents ARE illegal when you are illegally downloading something that does not belong to you. It is only legal when you are downloading something in the public domain. So if you are downloading something your boss sent you to look at..fine. BUT if you are downloading the latest album or hot movie from hollywood, then sorry zoolook...you are illegal. Now being in that state you are subject to whatever laws your country has for or against this action. You are also subject to arrest by Interpol if they have signed onto the standard agreement as that allows another country to come after you for breaking it's laws for downloading illegal material. So it really does not matter one hoot what you think, but what the laws say. I mean get real child...how do you think for one second that the Pirate bay was put out of existence, or this case was brought against ISO hunt, or the russian sites get taken down almost as fast as they get put up?...all because of Interpol and the international copyright laws. Your refusal to understand this means that you will most likely be on the list of busted people at sometime in the future so be careful but let us know when you get busted so we can send you a few years supply of soap on a rope.
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12. April 2010 @ 11:15 |
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Originally posted by john_swan:
Will someone please tell me why everyone who publishes a Bible claim a copyright for the works? What is the court of competent juristiction for this matter?
The bible is in public domain.
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12. April 2010 @ 11:34 |
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Originally posted by Mez:
Originally posted by john_swan:
Will someone please tell me why everyone who publishes a Bible claim a copyright for the works? What is the court of competent juristiction for this matter?
The bible is in public domain.
Yes it is but dirvivtve works hold their own copy right.
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Torrentz still works so no real loss.You can enslave us to the corrupted rule of law, but you can not take way our freedoms.
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12. April 2010 @ 11:37 |
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Originally posted by DaCount:
Zoolook, you are mistaken. Daniel_1 got it right on the nose. Torrents ARE illegal when you are illegally downloading something that does not belong to you. It is only legal when you are downloading something in the public domain. So if you are downloading something your boss sent you to look at..fine. BUT if you are downloading the latest album or hot movie from hollywood, then sorry zoolook...you are illegal. Now being in that state you are subject to whatever laws your country has for or against this action. You are also subject to arrest by Interpol if they have signed onto the standard agreement as that allows another country to come after you for breaking it's laws for downloading illegal material. So it really does not matter one hoot what you think, but what the laws say. I mean get real child...how do you think for one second that the Pirate bay was put out of existence, or this case was brought against ISO hunt, or the russian sites get taken down almost as fast as they get put up?...all because of Interpol and the international copyright laws. Your refusal to understand this means that you will most likely be on the list of busted people at sometime in the future so be careful but let us know when you get busted so we can send you a few years supply of soap on a rope.
Sorry no anything that is copyright is protected from any and all distribution(or even copy these days) that is not allowed by the CP owner.
You can not legally download a digital copy from a unauthorized place of something you already own unless it is not copy righted.
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12. April 2010 @ 12:32 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
You can not legally download a digital copy from a unauthorized place of something you already own unless it is not copy righted.
I did not know that. Are you sure? I am not all that surprised.
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12. April 2010 @ 12:44 |
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you can't even legally copy something you have gone out and paid for .. not even for purely personal use..
greed.. pure and simple.. pay for nothing.. take everything for free.
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12. April 2010 @ 12:55 |
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Zippy, look at what I said and you will see it says the EXACT same thing you just got done saying. The only difference is that countries that signed onto the Interpol agreement have allowed other countries to come after anyone that downloads what they have copyrighted in their own country. That is how Microsoft is able to come after people in other countries different from the US and how the MPAA is able to come after people downloading movies via torrents and the RIAA is able to come after people downloading music via torrents. That is what took down PirateBay and that is what is forcing ISO Hunt to close. Anyone that thinks they cannot be found because they are using someone else's internet connection is too dumb to be around as when you log onto someone else's internet connection the computer makes a log complete with your specific ISP address leading right back to you if the person knows where in the logs to look. That is why I laugh at people who think that just because they know a little about hacking, they think they are suddenly invisible...right up to the time they hear the knock on the door and wonder how the heck they were found out while ignoring the trail they left right back to them.
Now you see why I dont mess about with torrents. Just too darn dangerous.
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DaCount
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12. April 2010 @ 13:00 |
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Um, Paula_X? In the US you are incorrect in your statement. The betamax decision of 1974 by the US Supreme Court does indeed allow you to make copies of what you own for your own personal use, you just cannot sell them or give them away. What the laws do is to make OWNING copyable programs illegal. IN short you can copy anything you legally own for personal use, you just cannot legally own the programs to do it. That way they are not stopping you from copying your personal items, just stopping you from getting the programs to allow you to do it. Twisted? You bet. Legal? Unquestionably. Devious and a spit in your face? Without a doubt. Can you change it? Not hardly.
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12. April 2010 @ 13:05 |
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Originally posted by DaCount:
Um, Paula_X? In the US you are incorrect in your statement. The betamax decision of 1974 by the US Supreme Court does indeed allow you to make copies of what you own for your own personal use, you just cannot sell them or give them away. What the laws do is to make OWNING copyable programs illegal. IN short you can copy anything you legally own for personal use, you just cannot legally own the programs to do it. That way they are not stopping you from copying your personal items, just stopping you from getting the programs to allow you to do it. Twisted? You bet. Legal? Unquestionably. Devious and a spit in your face? Without a doubt. Can you change it? Not hardly.
They have obviously made a distinction between making a copy and downloading one. The copying still holds true for most of the world.
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12. April 2010 @ 13:27 |
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just dont use public trackers.. go for a private trackers...
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12. April 2010 @ 13:31 |
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Originally posted by Paula_X:
you can't even legally copy something you have gone out and paid for .. not even for purely personal use..
greed.. pure and simple.. pay for nothing.. take everything for free.
We have purchased movies on VHS Tapes. We have purchased movies on DVDs. We have purchased movies on Blue Ray. I would like to register each of these movies into a database. When next generation of media comes out I would be happy to pay a reasonable upgrade fee to be able to use current format. I would prefer to download movies to a harddisk which could distribute information to TV.
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Originally posted by Mez:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
You can not legally download a digital copy from a unauthorized place of something you already own unless it is not copy righted.
I did not know that. Are you sure? I am not all that surprised.
Copyright is pretty clear cut on the distribution aspect of it and the DMCA makes it harder to legally copy/backup the crap you own.
I can not support copy right as it is now as it makes the consumer criminal regardless of what they are doing, some people do not see the hill we are clinging too to not slide further into the abyss...... they want absolute protection of distribution and even copying which is outmoded and antiquated in these times.
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To long didn't read, :P
I skimmed threw it though.
As far as I am concerned copyright has become a scoff law, they are focusing on all the wrong things with all the wrong mindsets.
You can not make copyright focus on copy and distribution in this day and age to many public rights are violated in carrying out copyright violation claims. What they should be focusing on is the profit derived from the flow of distribution. You lock up the profit motive to only licensed vendors and the copyright system is protected as much as it can possibly be while the public dose not lose the ability to receive and transmit information.
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12. April 2010 @ 14:25 |
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Originally posted by DaCount:
...IN short you can copy anything you legally own for personal use, you just cannot legally own the programs to do it....
That's news to me.
In Australia, in a similar vein, a test court case trying to make an ISP responsible for what their clients' downloaded was thrown out the other day. However, the government here insist on placing in a public filter along the lines of China or Iran... ostensibly to protect us from child pornography etc. I suspect, considering the learned public opposition, that it has more to do with perceived copyright infringement than anything.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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12. April 2010 @ 15:07 |
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Jemborg...why do you think the MPAA and the RIAA have went to court so many times in the US to get copying programs removed from public purchase? Real Copy-DVD Shrink-DVD next Copy all have been tried in a court and some of them are no longer around. They have even went after Slysoft's AnyDVD and that is not even located in the US, but it is being brought before a judge to see if they can take it out. They will try anything they can to make sure you dont have the programs to copy anything, and then try and say with a straight face that they are not stopping you from copying as the US Betamax decision says you can
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