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Adobe on verge of suing Apple?
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 14 April, 2010
According to an ITWorld report, Adobe is on the verge of suing Apple, as the two companies continue to battle over Apple's strong rejection of Flash support on their devices.
The report cites "sources close to Adobe" when saying a lawsuit is in the works in the coming weeks.
Over the course of a few months, the niceties between the two companies has broken down, with Apple practically ... [ read the full article ]
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15. April 2010 @ 17:54 |
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Originally posted by SkateNYC:
Originally posted by TwillieD:
Originally posted by SkateNYC:
Originally posted by TwillieD:
Originally posted by SkateNYC:
"The end of USB? Intel demos new Light Peak cable that's twice as fast as USB 3.0"
http://blogs.zdnet.com/computers/?p=2130&tag=nl.e539
As most people know, Apple has a good relationship with Intel. It's possible that, because of this, Steve knows something that we don't know about the future of USB. Similar to when Apple introduced the original iMac, sans floppy drive. The screamers were yapping about what a failure it would be due to this "omission."
That was 12 years ago, and seems to have worked out nicely. Unless, of course, one is an Apple hater.
Thanks fanboy
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Hahaha - in need of totally unobjective easily dismissed nonsense!
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Not what I crave my friend - it's what you typed.
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15. April 2010 @ 18:09 |
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Originally posted by SkateNYC:
First, why you imagine I wanted to contradict him? As far as I'm concerned, anyone who attaches the term "fanboy" to his argument/perspective/commentary betrays the weakness of his position. Perhaps you ought to think before post?...
Er.. neither I or Killerbug or thebob360 called you a fanboy Skat. That was someone else.
Yes, you ended up tacitly agreeing with Killerbug.
You are living in a romantic past. Apple Mac is your faith and Jobs is your guru.
I and others on this thread are obviously perfectly aware of our position as consumers and don't need your smug hypocritical lecturing in this regard. Btw, this in an international site, not just for Americans (as is marriage).
I have no time for the sanctimonious superstitious twaddle of that seagull Richard Bach.
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by SkateNYC:
First, why you imagine I wanted to contradict him? As far as I'm concerned, anyone who attaches the term "fanboy" to his argument/perspective/commentary betrays the weakness of his position. Perhaps you ought to think before post?...
Er.. neither I or Killerbug or thebob360 called you a fanboy Skat. That was someone else.
Yes, you ended up tacitly agreeing with Killerbug.
You are living in a romantic past. Apple Mac is your faith and Jobs is your guru.
I and others on this thread are obviously perfectly aware of our position as consumers and don't need your hypocritical lecturing in this regard.
I have no time for the sanctimonious superstitious twaddle of that seagull Richard Bach.
TwillieD referred to me as "fanboy" whereas you referred to me as "funboy." At least he was honest.
Now you've chosen to speak for the mob in order bolster your cynical response to my post.
Faith isn't part of the equation. I use what works for me. This isn't about belief or religion, it's about what makes my life more productive, my living more lucrative, and part of my surplus time more enjoyable.
I do, however, appreciate your concern.
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15. April 2010 @ 18:49 |
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Originally posted by SkateNYC:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by SkateNYC:
First, why you imagine I wanted to contradict him? As far as I'm concerned, anyone who attaches the term "fanboy" to his argument/perspective/commentary betrays the weakness of his position. Perhaps you ought to think before post?...
Er.. neither I or Killerbug or thebob360 called you a fanboy Skat. That was someone else.
Yes, you ended up tacitly agreeing with Killerbug.
You are living in a romantic past. Apple Mac is your faith and Jobs is your guru.
I and others on this thread are obviously perfectly aware of our position as consumers and don't need your smug hypocritical lecturing in this regard. Btw, this in an international site, not just for Americans (as is marriage).
I have no time for the sanctimonious superstitious twaddle of that seagull Richard Bach.
TwillieD referred to me as "fanboy" whereas you referred to me as "funboy." At least he was honest.
Now you've chosen to speak for the mob in order bolster your cynical response to my post.
Faith isn't part of the equation. I use what works for me. This isn't about belief or religion, it's about what makes my life more productive, my living more lucrative, and part of my surplus time more enjoyable.
I do, however, appreciate your concern.
I was being honest, you are fun. :D
You live on past laurals and fatuous improvements like Light Peak etc. Your smug miss-the-point lecturing was becoming asinine... many are trying to inform you that you are limiting your consumer choices and paying too much for the privilege.
Do what works for you... if you like to have you head in the sand... bully for you.
If you go quoting Richard Bach as well, expect to be considered "religious" in a metaphorical manner in this regard. For all I know you may worship Ayn Rand.
You're welcome... again, it's been fun.
PS: I'm Australian, we like that popular American institution marriage here too. My wife is awesome. :)
Btw, this site is not in America. :)
EDIT: Yes, that was my point, I was being deliberately moot concerning Apple achievements in their entirety. Which is why I considered your "standard convention in debating" outdated and... floppy.
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Goodbye stupid Flash :) I hated you since the very beginning.
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16. April 2010 @ 01:21 |
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Originally posted by tatsh:
Goodbye stupid Flash :) I hated you since the very beginning.
I don't so much hate Flash as despise its massive overuse.
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16. April 2010 @ 01:58 |
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Originally posted by meve:
Apple is a totalitarian company. They treat the gadgets they sell as if they still owned them. Of course, in that way they can control every aspect of what their customers can do (or don't) with them even when they no longer have the gadgets in their premises. Something like "cyber-communism"??
The first thing I do when buying a new car is remove the manufacturer's chrome, advertisement of its name. (Does 'Microsoft' still have flashy stickers for computers that run it? I thought threads were supposed to end with 'Nazis'.) In any case, I believe you're writing of the wrong operating system, though MS source code could be free now, as their SDK probably is.
MacOSX's most attractive feature is its simplicity and consistency of use. When they sell a product, it's supposed to offer this. Because the early Jobs Macs were just Unix, graphical workstations you could take to cafés, they came with a open-source code that let you modify most every aspect of the operating system.
Source code was provided for all but Quicktime & such products, and Apple showed how to recompile GNU/Linux programs to run on your Mac's X11. The 3D graphical language was a growing subset of Silicon Graphic's OpenGL, an industry standard that SG donated to the public, the OS (until 10.4) was BSD 4.3 Unix over a Carnegie Mellon (open-source) Mach kernel (I believe), and the file system was Mac's old open-source HFS, now journaled. Protocols & formats were open-source, international standard, and many (unsecure) MS protocols were added, so one could plug the Mac into any LAN with ease.
If you don't want to use HP papers with your printer, you can download a host of free, open-source, text PPD files for CUPS and create your own saved, professional settings for any combinations of inks & papers in the world.
As I wrote, I'm sure its in the contract with 2d-party developers that 'Blip for MacOSX' obey Apple's human guidelines. This violent response by Apple is, IMO, more likely over their trying to keep MacOSX consistent rather than 'punishment'.
Despite remarks to the contrary, Apple sells hardware. (The OS admittedly sells for 10x the price of the optical medium.)
When, in 2002, my family asked me to recommend a computer, I recommended Apple. This is because, before the PC, I had decided to stay with Unix (which appeals to me). Because I knew little of modern computing, I chose, for my scientific programming, a free Unix OS (a SunOS or FreeBSD), and computer engineers had designed some for Unix: the cheapest was Apple.
Because X had been ported to MacOSX 10.2, I could install MacOSX and recompile free programs my family might need from Linux's large archive. More popular than scientific workstations, I might as well program on MacOSX as SunOS; this way I could maintain & tune my family's computer with no extra effort.
Apple is probably about as far from totalitarian as any commercial computer company you can ever find. (Its little proprietary plugs on iPods & such are irritating, though possibly a necessary.) Although there are many reasons not to choose MacOSX to run applications that perform tasks your fountain pen won't, political reasons are not one of them.
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16. April 2010 @ 02:16 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
You live on past laurals and fatuous improvements like Light Peak etc. Your smug miss-the-point lecturing was becoming asinine... many are trying to inform you that you are limiting your consumer choices and paying too much for the privilege.
Do what works for you... if you like to have you head in the sand... bully for you.
If you go quoting Richard Bach as well, expect to be considered "religious" in a metaphorical manner in this regard. For all I know you may worship Ayn Rand.
You're welcome... again, it's been fun.
PS: I'm Australian, we like that popular American institution marriage here too. My wife is awesome. :)
Btw, this site is not in America. :)
EDIT: Yes, that was my point, I was being deliberately moot concerning Apple achievements in their entirety. Which is why I considered your "standard convention in debating" outdated and... floppy.
The remark about 'fanboys' is well taken anyway. One should discuss the merits of products for purposes, and not publish psychological profiles of people from a post, personally demeaning them at the end. Those are of little value to people. (Also, remember to treat Newbie's nicely.)
Computers were my profession as little as I could manage, so I still use the old procedure of listing what tasks my new programs must do that my fountain pen can't; then finding the operating system that does all these, and does them well; then finding the computer that best runs this operating system and has the proper connectors. Sorry if we end up with Apple.
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16. April 2010 @ 02:38 |
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Originally posted by TwillieD:
LSO's are innocuous and completely controllable from the settings manager of the player.
Accusing Adobe of being out to get users or control user machines is ridiculous. The same can be said for 'sloppy code' remarks considering the company has provided creative professionals with an outstanding suite of development tools for over two decades.
Adobe doesn't write a program only viewed on Windows - Apple chooses not to use the hands down best medium for viewing internet content because it can't control it.
Apparently, not enough time is being spent at your library.
Microsoft didn't write Active-X, advertisement caches in IE and its OSes, its LAN protocol, &c, with the intent that they be used for nefarious purposes. Is IE still banned by the governments of Germany & France? I consequently don't, for example, accuse such a sterling company as Adobe to be 'out to get' users. Others will do that; and Apple will have little control over it on their computers. (After all, the W3C itself created a cache - one which created great internal controversy.)
Indeed, not enough time is being spent at my library. Fortunately, free security programs such as 'snort' (an NIDS), 'clamav sentry' (an e-mail, security pre-processor), a good backup strategy, & regular maintenance let me normally forget about my tools and focus on the subject. (Better to avoid personal denigrations.)
Actually, I start all internet lookups with the Wikipedia, and sites of interest are bookmarked (when using MacOSX) on Safari. When browsing elsewhere, I use Firefox, packed to the hilt with Adblock Plus, No Script, SafeCache, WOT, &c.
PS. The news article was unclear to me whether Adobe's SDK conflicts with SilverLight on just MacOSX or both MacOSX & Windows. I assumed the former. It's not of great interest to me. Perhaps someone can clarify it.
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16. April 2010 @ 02:38 |
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Originally posted by SkateNYC:
"The end of USB? Intel demos new Light Peak cable that's twice as fast as USB 3.0"
http://blogs.zdnet.com/computers/?p=2130&tag=nl.e539
As most people know, Apple has a good relationship with Intel. It's possible that, because of this, Steve knows something that we don't know about the future of USB. Similar to when Apple introduced the original iMac, sans floppy drive. The screamers were yapping about what a failure it would be due to this "omission."
That was 12 years ago, and seems to have worked out nicely. Unless, of course, one is an Apple hater.
Apple has to have good relations with Intel. What processor will they migrate to if they try to screw with Intel?
BTW I have not built a single system with a floppy drive in past 8-10 years.
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16. April 2010 @ 02:48 |
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Originally posted by Gneiss1:
Originally posted by TwillieD:
LSO's are innocuous and completely controllable from the settings manager of the player.
Accusing Adobe of being out to get users or control user machines is ridiculous. The same can be said for 'sloppy code' remarks considering the company has provided creative professionals with an outstanding suite of development tools for over two decades.
Adobe doesn't write a program only viewed on Windows - Apple chooses not to use the hands down best medium for viewing internet content because it can't control it.
Apparently, not enough time is being spent at your library.
Microsoft didn't write Active-X, advertisement caches in IE and its OSes, its LAN protocol, &c, with the intent that it be used for nefarious purposes. I consequently don't, for example, accuse such a sterling company as Adobe to be 'out to get' users. Others will do that; and Apple will have little control over it.
Indeed, not enough time is being spent at my library. Fortunately, free security programs such as 'snort' (an NIDS), 'clamav sentry' (an e-mail, security pre-processor), a good backup strategy, & regular maintenance let me normally forget about my tools and focus on the subject. (Better to avoid personal denigrations.)
Last point duly noted :-)
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16. April 2010 @ 10:59 |
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Originally posted by Gneiss1:
Originally posted by meve:
Apple is a totalitarian company. They treat the gadgets they sell as if they still owned them. Of course, in that way they can control every aspect of what their customers can do (or don't) with them even when they no longer have the gadgets in their premises. Something like "cyber-communism"??
The first thing I do when buying a new car is remove the manufacturer's chrome, advertisement of its name. (Does 'Microsoft' still have flashy stickers for computers that run it? I thought threads were supposed to end with 'Nazis'.) In any case, I believe you're writing of the wrong operating system, though MS source code could be free now, as their SDK probably is.
MacOSX's most attractive feature is its simplicity and consistency of use. When they sell a product, it's supposed to offer this. Because the early Jobs Macs were just Unix, graphical workstations you could take to cafés, they came with a open-source code that let you modify most every aspect of the operating system.
Source code was provided for all but Quicktime & such products, and Apple showed how to recompile GNU/Linux programs to run on your Mac's X11. The 3D graphical language was a growing subset of Silicon Graphic's OpenGL, an industry standard that SG donated to the public, the OS (until 10.4) was BSD 4.3 Unix over a Carnegie Mellon (open-source) Mach kernel (I believe), and the file system was Mac's old open-source HFS, now journaled. Protocols & formats were open-source, international standard, and many (unsecure) MS protocols were added, so one could plug the Mac into any LAN with ease.
If you don't want to use HP papers with your printer, you can download a host of free, open-source, text PPD files for CUPS and create your own saved, professional settings for any combinations of inks & papers in the world.
As I wrote, I'm sure its in the contract with 2d-party developers that 'Blip for MacOSX' obey Apple's human guidelines. This violent response by Apple is, IMO, more likely over their trying to keep MacOSX consistent rather than 'punishment'.
Despite remarks to the contrary, Apple sells hardware. (The OS admittedly sells for 10x the price of the optical medium.)
When, in 2002, my family asked me to recommend a computer, I recommended Apple. This is because, before the PC, I had decided to stay with Unix (which appeals to me). Because I knew little of modern computing, I chose, for my scientific programming, a free Unix OS (a SunOS or FreeBSD), and computer engineers had designed some for Unix: the cheapest was Apple.
Because X had been ported to MacOSX 10.2, I could install MacOSX and recompile free programs my family might need from Linux's large archive. More popular than scientific workstations, I might as well program on MacOSX as SunOS; this way I could maintain & tune my family's computer with no extra effort.
Apple is probably about as far from totalitarian as any commercial computer company you can ever find. (Its little proprietary plugs on iPods & such are irritating, though possibly a necessary.) Although there are many reasons not to choose MacOSX to run applications that perform tasks your fountain pen won't, political reasons are not one of them.
Thanks for your excellent summary.
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16. April 2010 @ 13:43 |
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Originally posted by Gneiss1:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
You live on past laurals and fatuous improvements like Light Peak etc. Your smug miss-the-point lecturing was becoming asinine... many are trying to inform you that you are limiting your consumer choices and paying too much for the privilege.
Do what works for you... if you like to have you head in the sand... bully for you.
If you go quoting Richard Bach as well, expect to be considered "religious" in a metaphorical manner in this regard. For all I know you may worship Ayn Rand.
You're welcome... again, it's been fun.
PS: I'm Australian, we like that popular American institution marriage here too. My wife is awesome. :)
Btw, this site is not in America. :)
EDIT: Yes, that was my point, I was being deliberately moot concerning Apple achievements in their entirety. Which is why I considered your "standard convention in debating" outdated and... floppy.
The remark about 'fanboys' is well taken anyway. One should discuss the merits of products for purposes, and not publish psychological profiles of people from a post, personally demeaning them at the end. Those are of little value to people. (Also, remember to treat Newbie's nicely.)
Computers were my profession as little as I could manage, so I still use the old procedure of listing what tasks my new programs must do that my fountain pen can't; then finding the operating system that does all these, and does them well; then finding the computer that best runs this operating system and has the proper connectors. Sorry if we end up with Apple.
The days of apologizing for using Apple are long gone. In their stead -- and this is something very obvious to me -- are people posting long explanations in defense of using Microsoft as their primary or exclusive tool(s). This in addition to bashing, belittling and dismissing Apple products and their users.
Personally, I don't give a wit which OS people use, what they eat for breakfast, or what their favorite color is, and I'm not obsessed with marginalizing them because of their choices. All that energy seems to me pointless and irrelevant.
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16. April 2010 @ 21:53 |
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Originally posted by TwillieD:
Adobe is not going to sue Apple unless they are the only company forbidden to use a packager for the iPhone - in which case they will win the case hands down.
Not necessarily. If Apple can show they have no use for their prduct or that their product may cause harm or some form of damage to their product then they can not be forced to use it.
Either way I am still confused on what Apple has done wrong to Adobe, other than tell them how it is, so to speak. Oh well we will soon find out what Adobe gripe is.
Oh snap, cancel that I just found out
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cf...mpaign=20100415
LOL how lame on both their parts
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Remenber the LOOK AND FEEL lawsuits Apple filed. Xerox put a stop to the LOOK AND FEEL lawsuits.
Apple and Adobe should be able to sit down and talk about this business opprotunity.
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Originally posted by john_swan:
Remenber the LOOK AND FEEL lawsuits Apple filed. Xerox put a stop to the LOOK AND FEEL lawsuits.
Apple and Adobe should be able to sit down and talk about this business opprotunity.
And how did Xerox do that?
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16. April 2010 @ 23:23 |
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The technology was developed by Xerox not Apple.
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16. April 2010 @ 23:48 |
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Originally posted by john_swan:
The technology was developed by Xerox not Apple.
And, as so often happens with Apple, they developed and deployed the technology in ways that no one else could or was willing to do.
Xerox PARC was exclusively a research facility when it began operations in 1970. Xerox was paid handsomely for their contributions to Apple in the form of pre-IPO stock in Apple. This was prior to the "LOOK AND FEEL lawsuits" filed by Apple.
After Apple succeeded in transforming parts of PARC's research into usable products, Xerox got pissed and sued them. The suit was dismissed, in part due to Xerox' profiting greatly in the exchange.
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Instead of arguing about the capabilities of the computers in school computer labs from 20 years ago, why not judge based on current (or at least recent) products?
Anyway, who cares if apple removed the floppy drive because they thought that flash drives would take off? They were virtually non-existant when that system was released, so it was a bad choice...it is a bit like if microsoft removed support for USB 2.0 drives because USB 3.0 drives are the future.
...And who cares about the earliest bits of GUI from the days of DOS? It was useless, and the memory required made those systems cost $10,000 anyway.
Apple is an overcontrolling company. This is a fact. If you can't see it, you are not paying attention...you can install windows on a Mac, but macOS is designed not to install on PCs...'nuff said? The only good software available for MacOS are ports of windows and linux software...and even then, the software company must write the port and submit it (along with a bribe) to apple in order to get it approved. If it does anything well, Apple will block the release to prevent your product from making their products look bad.
Is microsoft a good company? No, but at least they don't make PCs...and they don't mind you having choices, so long as the micorosoft choice is the default.
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Instead of arguing about the capabilities of the computers in school computer labs from 20 years ago, why not judge based on current (or at least recent) products?
"Anyway, who cares if apple removed the floppy drive because they thought that flash drives would take off? They were virtually non-existant when that system was released, so it was a bad choice..."
Apple didn't "remove" the floppy drive because they thought that flash drives would take off, at least not for the short term. They left it out because the use of CD's was gaining favor in place of the fragile, low-capacity diskettes. The rest of the industry seemed to "care," as they soon followed suit. The popularity of the iMac spoke, and continues to speak, for itself. Your conception of what constitutes a "bad idea" is contaminated by your biases.
>>...it is a bit like if microsoft removed support for USB 2.0 drives because USB 3.0 drives are the future.<<
A very small bit, if at all. Apple didn't introduce a better diskette reader; they took a bold and successful step towards what was, to Apple, the future in this regard.
>>...And who cares about the earliest bits of GUI from the days of DOS? It was useless, and the memory required made those systems cost $10,000 anyway.<<
Don't know what this comment refers to.
>>Apple is an overcontrolling company. This is a fact.<<
This "fact" is your opinion. You're entitled to your opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts.
>>If you can't see it, you are not paying attention...you can install windows on a Mac, but macOS is designed not to install on PCs...<<
Apparently, my inattention has proven beneficial to both me and Apple.
>>...'nuff said?<<
In the case of your disjointed and non-factual arguments, this was true some time ago.
>>The only good software available for MacOS are ports of windows and linux software...and even then, the software company must write the port and submit it (along with a bribe) to apple in order to get it approved. If it does anything well, Apple will block the release to prevent your product from making their products look bad.<<
Paranoia will destroya.
>>Is microsoft a good company? No, but at least they don't make PCs...and they don't mind you having choices, so long as the micorosoft choice is the default.<<
Microsoft is good at what they do best. They get themselves in trouble when they stray from this; they become unfocused and disorganized when this happens.
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Gneiss1:
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by thebob360:
i say why dont adobe stop supporting apple... .
That's what it did, I believe. We Apple user couldn't help notice that Adobe's fine coding for FlashPlayer 10's installer alone was 2.5 MB uncompressed for Microsoft, 7.4 MB compressed for Apple. Why is this? Sloppy coding must be hard on iPhone.
Well, when I was a tiny child, I often wondered whether people on television could see me...
Grateful I have my little library and a fountain pen.
It's true, Macs's code is slimmer. Does it make any real difference in the long run?... Nope, not nowadays, it's no big deal.
I had an Amiga that could run Mac OS and it's apps in a window or a screen faster than a Mac could with the same CPU... in emulation! I often think how brilliant that OS and chipset was and wouldn't it be great if it was still going, still being developed... if the managers had not stolen all the money and fled...
But that's in the past, it's also about what your computer does or can do, not just how efficient it is.
Also, if Macs were the real bang-for-buck go all my 3d rendering artist mates would not have moved on to PCs after the demise the Video Toaster (Amiga).
Ram, power, storage space... these things are much much cheaper nowadays.. unlike Apple would have you believe.
It baffles me why one does not just build a compatible Hackintosh and run whatever OS they feel like.
(Before you go off half-cocked again Gneiss1, I'm typing this on an Asus EeePC 1000H netbook in Ubuntu).
Did you see that above Gneiss1? I have yet to get back to that other thread too mate, very busy, but I haven't forgotten...
Crikey, don't you see? I do source and purpose build rigs, to run whatever my clients want. It's one of the things I do for a living. And I'm bloody good at it. I just turned fifty the other day btw.
Why do you insist I'm promoting M$ if I say I don't like Apple's PCs (which is what we used to call them... they are all still PCs to me. What, do you call a PC running Linux then, like this netbook I'm on?)
The real competition is in the software, not the hardware. It's about availing yourself to that market place. Not just Apple's limited one (note: you can run XP on Macs now, now why is that? I have lost count of the number of Apple fanatics posting how they do that now.)
A current project is for a water-cooled render workstation built specifically for running Maya. My client hasn't decided on his OS yet. Though he used to be an enthusiastic MacHead back in their heyday, the mid nineties (mine was Amiga then, as I said), he's tossing up between Linux64 or XP64 or Win7-64. I'm pretty sure his rig won't run the Mac OS, as it's LGA1366 I could suggest it to him if you'd like, don't think he'll go for it... he's considering how,say, Direct Compute is going impact his work, not viruses and defragging, or slim code niceties.
I see Macs as a maker of slick gizmo's (none of which have much appeal for me... I can see how others like them) but not as a maker of serious PCs any-more.
My problem is working out how I'm gonna fit this ATI HD5970 my wife bought me for my fiftieth into my mATX home theatre system {I tell a lie... I've already worked it out :) }. Struth, what sort of fun is a Mac when you can have this?...
Also props to KillerBug's last post.
Also,also, props to john_swan too for re-reminding us of Xerox's pivotal contribution to all PCs. (see? I'm nice to this newbie).
EDIT: Heh, I just realise I use floppies still (actually floppy formatted USB sticks) for flashing a certain console... how backward of me. :D
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Originally posted by SkateNYC:
Microsoft is good at what they do best. They get themselves in trouble when they stray from this; they become unfocused and disorganized when this happens.
What the...?
Oh LOL. You didn't...
...you did!
ROFLMAO
Oh please, dissect my above post (the one just above this one... number 46... the one with the pic... in case you can't find it... it's a video graphics card btw). :D
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leglessoz
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18. April 2010 @ 07:34 |
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I say just let Apple ban everything that comes from Adobe and watch its profits take a nose-dive into the ground as people stop using and buying Apple products.
Basically I don't really care what Apple does or doesn't do as its products have no place in my life.
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18. April 2010 @ 13:23 |
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18. April 2010 @ 13:41 |
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"Jean-Louis Gassée (a former Apple executive) proposes a simple thought-experiment: "By the end of 2010, there will be more than 100 million iPhone OS devices (iPod Touch, iPhone, iPad). You're the webmeister at an important content site. The boss comes in and asks you why you're not supporting the iPhone OS devices. 'Our stuff is all Flash-based, chief, those guys don't run Flash'. You're about to become the ex-webmeister. The boss, a really patient sort, asks you to 'think different' about all these 'noncompliant' customers, each of whom has an iTunes account backed by a credit card, and has developed the habit (encouraged by Apple) of paying for content. So, one more time, with feeling: what's your answer?"
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