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New PS3 titles fighting off piracy?
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article published on 13 October, 2010
Sony has made several moves to combat piracy on the PlayStation 3 (PS3) console following the release of PSJailBreak and other solutions based on the same trick. Firstly, it closed the USB exploit with firmware 3.42. Later on, another firmware change included a whitelist of USB devices, which also caused some controller incompatibilities.
Now some game titles are also reportedly prepared ... [ read the full article ]
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17. October 2010 @ 07:46 |
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you really think people who bought a PS3 for linux could give a damn about PSN and gaming if they are using it in that quantity?
fair enough for a very few percent that, like me, tried a distro (ubuntu 8.4 for me IICR) and used it when my pc was down, but not exactly as a primary function of the PS3. I would be more pissed if iplayer was taken away.
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marleyboy
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17. October 2010 @ 08:35 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i dont get why you people are against people stopping piracy. in the end of the day, it is their system, the devs games, they deserve to get paid etc. dont like it dont buy a PS3.
Its not a case of piracy, many people want to develop for themselves either apps or programmes on the PS3, if anyone has caused a war over it, its Sony.
Now the PS3 is cracked (particularly those who dont upgrade the firmware), patches, back doors, cracks and all manner of things are capable, its only a question of time as to when someone creates an alternative patch, to compensate for updated firmware or games insisting on updates.
This directly as a result of Sony's enforcement in downgrading consoles that users back then specifically bought in order to develop software of their own. Had they left it as OS capable, they would not be in this mess.
Not everybody who has a PS3, has an internet connection and\or many children with a PS3 dont have them connected online for a variety of reasons. It is therefore rendering PS3 users into being forced to have an internet connection, in order to play games.
Imagine if we were forced to have an internet connection on our desktops or laptops, in order to run the software.
One of two things will happen to Sony as a result. Either they will give up turning it more and more into a fort knox, (which is already rendering it incompatible with anything else but Sony products) and concentrate on developing on the PS4, or they will close so many doors and windows on the system, people will just give up with Sony altogether, and move onto pc or 360 consoles that offer a little more leeway in software development.
This in turn will have a MASSIVE knock on effect for the PS4, as purchasers will conclude that "Sony claim to OWN the console and can do pretty much what they want to it after it is purchased, so its not worth investing in another one.", thus the new Xbox 450 will take over in the consumer markets.
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adre02
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18. October 2010 @ 09:59 |
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So marleyboy, from what you said, people cannot create their own apps anymore? You are saying that it is impossible?
I really KNOW this is not a fact at all.
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marleyboy
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19. October 2010 @ 18:00 |
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Originally posted by adre02:
So marleyboy, from what you said, people cannot create their own apps anymore? You are saying that it is impossible?
I really KNOW this is not a fact at all.
Not at all, those are your words, I say Sony are taking away the rights of people creating apps of their own, unless of course they are prepared to pay a fortune in Sony PS3 development software, (fortunately those with pre dated PS3's who wisely never updated can now download this for free - BIG OOPS!).
Cracked PS3's that are currently floating around, will no doubt be able to get updated "patched" firmware, particularly as they still have USB capability.
Of course the majority of Sony programmers or developers (as well as many potential new PS3 customers) will quickly die off, the interest in the PS3 will be limited to gamers, and like with any gaming console, once the novelty wears off, they move on.
I cannot foresee many moving on to the PS4, there are too many restrictions, as well as a determination that it MUST have internet connection. (I will stick with my trusting PC), I am more likely to invest in the next gen 360 than a PS4, because I dont like the idea of constantly downgrading a system and buying only branded expensive products (like joypads) to use them.
My PS3 will remain as it is (no upgrades and fully accessible) up until it fades into oblivion (like the PS1), from there, there is no way I will risk investing in such a hugely overpriced product with so many conditions attached to it and limitations installed on it.
Sony have lost any future trust or business from me, and quite a large list of many others, you will note this come xmas, when Sony sales drop dramatically and find themselves superseded by the more "compatible" consoles that hit the market.
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19. October 2010 @ 21:14 |
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No matter how unhackable they think their games, there's ALWAYS somebody smarter and quicker than they are. History has proved that to us over and over again. You might as well give up Sony. To resist is futile!!
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xtago
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20. October 2010 @ 10:26 |
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Originally posted by Mez:
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i dont get why you people are against people stopping piracy. in the end of the day, it is their system, the devs games, they deserve to get paid etc. dont like it dont buy a PS3.
In some cases it is just as you say. More cases, people want freedom Sony wants to take away from them. It is like jailbreaking phones. Most person don't care if Apple doesn't want you to use certain apps on the phone they created. Others fee they bought is so it is theirs. I personally have a huge issue with Sony telling me what shows I can watch on my Sony TV.
Many of these companies want you to buy all their products and play by their rules. You don't have to buy their products. You also don't have to play by their rules even though you bought their product. Some persons prefer to do that.
it's not about freedom, it's about poor people who can just barely afford a product but can't afford the extras that go with it.
Many people who jailbreak a PS3 do so because they want to make copies of games they rented from the shop down the road, it's about paying nothing or next to nothing to get stuff.
In terms of the iphone people who want to pirate stuff, don't want to be using itunes so you need to jailbreak it so you can use a pretend version of itunes software so you can pirate the software onto the phone.
That is the reality of it.
It's the some deal for those people who are more than happy to flog your car go for a 5min drive then set it on fire so you don't have a car anymore and they don't get busted for flogging it.
yet you get left with a loan you have to pay out and have to get another car so you can work or sit around or what ever.
Sony allowed people to make up their own apps on Linux with otheros sony removed it because some 20 year old kid wanted to use that to break the PS3 OS so he could play pirated games simple as that.
this whole BS of my freedom is wreaked because I can't use pirated software on my PS3 is a laugh if you knew you couldn't use pirated software then why buy the bloody thing in the first place.
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marleyboy
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20. October 2010 @ 20:05 |
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Originally posted by xtago:
Originally posted by Mez:
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i dont get why you people are against people stopping piracy. in the end of the day, it is their system, the devs games, they deserve to get paid etc. dont like it dont buy a PS3.
In some cases it is just as you say. More cases, people want freedom Sony wants to take away from them. It is like jailbreaking phones. Most person don't care if Apple doesn't want you to use certain apps on the phone they created. Others fee they bought is so it is theirs. I personally have a huge issue with Sony telling me what shows I can watch on my Sony TV.
Many of these companies want you to buy all their products and play by their rules. You don't have to buy their products. You also don't have to play by their rules even though you bought their product. Some persons prefer to do that.
it's not about freedom, it's about poor people who can just barely afford a product but can't afford the extras that go with it.
Many people who jailbreak a PS3 do so because they want to make copies of games they rented from the shop down the road, it's about paying nothing or next to nothing to get stuff.
In terms of the iphone people who want to pirate stuff, don't want to be using itunes so you need to jailbreak it so you can use a pretend version of itunes software so you can pirate the software onto the phone.
That is the reality of it.
It's the some deal for those people who are more than happy to flog your car go for a 5min drive then set it on fire so you don't have a car anymore and they don't get busted for flogging it.
yet you get left with a loan you have to pay out and have to get another car so you can work or sit around or what ever.
Sony allowed people to make up their own apps on Linux with otheros sony removed it because some 20 year old kid wanted to use that to break the PS3 OS so he could play pirated games simple as that.
this whole BS of my freedom is wreaked because I can't use pirated software on my PS3 is a laugh if you knew you couldn't use pirated software then why buy the bloody thing in the first place.
If only you knew how wrong you were, example, my PS3 is cracked, yet I have no copied games on it, I m not interested in "playing" PS3 games, however I do like the power a PS3 has, and have already programmed a Mandelbrot, just to see how powerful a system it really is, my next step is to play with vector graphics, create an app that will allow me to play all my (original) PS2 games and play around with various program ideas, I have plenty of things to try which would be impossible if it was not cracked, I would love to develop my own PS3 games, but in order to do that I have to understand the principles and potential in the PS3.
So NOT EVERYONE is after it for copied games, indeed the more experienced programmers have no interest in PS3 games one iota. We are more interested in the idea of a supercomputer, that can run 4 processors "simultaneously" making for very powerful software potential.
There possibly are MANY people who wish to exploit the PS3 to play pirate games, but I can assure you there are MANY MORE people who have no interest in playing games as much as programming them.
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