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DVD Shrink: what is the quality of the final copy?
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brobear
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4. June 2004 @ 06:48 |
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Hey Big Orange,
I only tried to use the DVD43 to open WinDVD and it was a no go. However, I did use AnyDVD to try both. AnyDVD would run with Recode and not WinDVD. I'd say the same would be true of the free DVD43 though I didn't check due to my hatred of the program. Little puke turned my System 32 into a popup file at boot.
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4. June 2004 @ 06:50 |
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Even though I have a fast PC and lots of RAM, I rarely record on the fly to avoid coasters and as a result I overlooked that benefit. Thanks for pointing it out to me.
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4. June 2004 @ 07:00 |
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Hey brobear, I was mainly just talking about de-encryption, I also use Anydvd, and have actually never used DVD43, but I know it works on the same premise, and some people don't want to pay the bucks. to Sophocles: yeah, I see your point, but I do it on the fly all the time, maybe I'm just lucky, but no coasters yet. There are times when you can't, thus the reason I'm adding another 120g's which , I believe, you helped me with in another thread. BTW, I went with Western Digital. Thanx. 
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4. June 2004 @ 07:02 |
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No problem bigorange, you'll love the hard disc.
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4. June 2004 @ 10:26 |
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Hey Big Orange,
WD is good stuff, I had an 80 and knew that was tinker land. So, I added a 250 GB WD. Works great and I may have enough storage to last till next month (yuk-yuk). Now I have 330 GB total and everything is working great. Like Sophocles, I'd say you'll like the product.
Evil little smiley face DVD43, I wish the writer had it up his wazoo. As I said I don't appreciate it turning the System 32 folder into a popup. Nothing added or done on the PC except mail and checking threads here at AfterDawn. Thought I'd try the DVD43 that everybody was saying was a good thing. As soon as I put it on and rebooted the problem started. I'd say I won't be the only one with the problem (XP systems) and I know for a fact it was that piece of cheap crap. So a lot of people will end up the butt of a bad joke with those sick little smiley faces.
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4. June 2004 @ 10:56 |
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Now that you mention it borbear I had the DbpPower Amp CD player popping up everytime I booted. I'm not making any claims that DVD43 was the cause but it is an interesting coincident.
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4. June 2004 @ 11:05 |
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I don't know how the piece of crap intertwines with the system, but I guess I'll find out. DVD43 is causing some other weird stuff to happen as well. Think it did something to the registry. I'm going to have to shutdown and do some maintenance. Don't you just love a freebie that goes South. Nobody to tell they can stick it up the 'old wazoo'.
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4. June 2004 @ 11:18 |
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I'm almost certain that it's a registry problem. You might want to try a system restore first. Good luck!
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4. June 2004 @ 14:55 |
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The context of that statement was as long as DVD43 was running, it was a waste of time to use DVD Decrypter.
Translation: One will be wasting time doing the same job over and over.
Running DVD Decrypter then running SmartRipper is wasting time. It doesn't mean DVD Decrypter is better, faster or smarter than SmartRipper - I simply mean the job was done, why do it again ?
Okis, Dokie ?
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4. June 2004 @ 14:56 |
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I got a good deal and added another 80, that gives me a total of 280, it ain't 330 but I bet I don't get that damn virtual memory warning for a while. I've been recommending dvd43 to people who don't want to pay for anydvd, guess they can go back in time (wish I could) and do a system restore. I gotta say, a program that decrypts and u never know it's there with absolutely NOTHING to do, well worth 39.00.
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4. June 2004 @ 15:09 |
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brobear,
Me thinks you give too much credit to the "Smiley face."
Nothing there to mess ya up -
My thinks ya might need a registry cleaner. When's the last time you ran a system clean program like
System Mechanic ?
http://www.wugnet.com/shareware/spow.asp?ID=235
If you haven't then it's about time -
Use their trial period and clean your system up :P)
Cheers,
Pete
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4. June 2004 @ 15:18 |
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I use the freeware BeClean, seems to do a good job, how is it compared to system mechanic? (oops, sorry, probably the wrong forum, responded without thinking)
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4. June 2004 @ 15:38 |
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Sorry I got a little off track and so I've deleted the content of my post.
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4. June 2004 @ 16:06 |
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Big,
Suggest you try and make up your own mind - the link is there.
Sophocles, You link dead-ends.
When recommending programs ALWAYS include negative info too. Not compatible with XP or ME.
We're working on a problem here guys, - let's focus - -
There will be no additional discussion of Registry cleaners on this thread. It was mentioned as a remedy for a problem not as an intro for debate.
brobear,
Let's clean your Registry -
Pete
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4. June 2004 @ 16:14 |
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sorry Pete, realized I screwed up, which I tend to do quite often(my wife says) won't happen again (i hope).
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4. June 2004 @ 16:40 |
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4. June 2004 @ 18:06 |
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brobear,
I've been trying to get my message to you, so where you place your DVD43 complaints I been placing this in hopes it will find you -
DVD43 cannot do all you have attributed too. It?s just what it is -
So to help you, you must go down to the lower right-hand side of your Monitor screen, near the clock. You'll see a smiley face there, right click your mouse on that and choose "Close."
DVD43 will close.
To remove - Go to Start, Control panel, Add and Remove programs - locate DVD43 and choose"remove, it will be removed. Clean up your System Registry with System Mechanic available in trial version or other programs like it -
System Mechanic -
http://www.wugnet.com/shareware/spow.asp?ID=235
I would expect your problems to continue BUT you?ll have to look elsewhere -
cheers,
?P?
PS. I think, if you?ll ask around you?ll find that computers do, in fact, change themselves - Programs will go ?Flaky,? others will work one day and not the next - in fact ?Gremlins? can change settings seemingly while your PC is off. It is the way of things in Computer-land, not everything can be explained.
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4. June 2004 @ 18:23 |
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The problem with freeware and some commercial applications is that a conflict can develop between different appications that snares a particular purpose or function. A good exampe of that would be the Hauppauge PVR-350, TV tuner. Intervideo makes their DVD decoder but they didn't take into consideration that one might install other such encoders as well. This is a copy and paste from the Hauppauge web site.
"Occasionally, the software decoder that the WinTV PVR-250/350 requires may conflict with a preinstalled decoder (ie. WinDVD or PwerDVD) and cause problems on your system. Some examples of these problems:
* Fatal errors or blue screens when launching WinTV2000
* WinTV2000 will function for a short amount of time and then lock or crash
* You receive audio but no video (black screen)
* You have no audio or video but all your channels scanned in properly
* ?Stream Operation? errors when clicking on Record or Pause
* ?Pin? errors when changing from one MPEG format to another
* ?Dshow? errors when launching the application, or when recording or playing back files
* ?Kernal 32.dll" crash on shutdown of WinTV2000
In all these cases, the cause is usually a problem with the software decoder the WinTV is trying to use. Either the decoders are not installed properly or they are conflicting with a decoder already installed in the system."
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5. June 2004 @ 07:07 |
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ScubaPete,
No I am not a moron. A few college courses on PCs and I've been involved with the mechanics of PC repair as well. Only fairly new to this forum, not computers. Fully aware of Add-Remove and registry cleaners. All of which I have and use. A dirty little thing one finds out when looking, remnants of DVD43 are left in the Program Files after removing DVD43. What works for the majority doesn't work for all. Big companies have tech assistance. This new little freebie has no history of testing and no technical backup.
Sophocles showed where freebies were shown to enteract with certain software. So the concept that a program just sets there and doesn't have an effect on the system in which it resides is questionable.
My problems probably won't happen to the majority of users of DVD43, I'm saying it happened to me and will probably happen to others as well. Someone said give the negative and positive. Well my experience with DVD43 sure was a negative.
Look to the problems 321 Studios had with their software. The old XCopy software was full of problems caused by interference of one program with another. So, it goes without saying that a program, DVD43 is a program, can and sometimes does interfere with other computer functions. This is a proven fact by the experience here at AfterDawn. Granted 321 is a larger program with more function. But it only takes one small 'gremlin' to foul up the works.
Sophocles,
Getting back to the discussion of comparing the newer programs to the Shrink and others... The DVD2One did a good job of splicing a 'flipper'. I did the final encoding and the burn different ways. So far my best result was with DVD2One and Recode2.
I used the DVD2One to write the differnt sides to HD and then use WinDVD to burn. I got the pixels and they were repeatable on rerun. My encoding the files with DVD2One may have been an issue. I didn't try running WinDVD with the file I sent to HD with Recode. So wasn't fair there. It would need more testing.
Using Recode for all except splicing gave good results, but was a bit more time consuming. I wouldn't advise this for the Newbies until they get a hang to using the software. There are still some unanswered questions an to the use of CopytoDVD to burn. Haven't given Blindwrite a real chance yet and that is where you go when you check the little box.
So, giving credit where credit is due. The DVDShrink is a good middleweight. It has functions the others don't and hooked up with Nero poses a champion combination. This freebie would be worth purchase if on the market as retail instead of freeware.
But for the big heavy weight files, it is better to go with programs created to handle the larger files. WinDVD, DVD2One and Nero's Recode 2 are examples of such programs.
The DVD2One is good at splicing 2 sided discs and handling (encoding) large files. I can't figure a way to get the Menus with DVD2One. All the work I did, the menus were deleted. With menus deleted, there isn't much use selecting the extras as one can't access them, other than on a PC. If it can be done someone clue me in on the setting.
The Recode is adept at handling the larger files with good results. InterVideo is good at the large files as well. The only flaw so far with InterVideo is one I believe I created. So I still leave my dicision open in the battle of the heavy weights.
My pappy told me, 'use the bigger wrench for the bigger bolt'. So, the different tools can be good for the jobs they were meant to do best.
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5. June 2004 @ 07:44 |
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If anyone should suspect that they are experiencing a software conflict then they should remove the most recently installed application. The speed gains using DVD43 in conjuction with Nero encode really aren't there. While it's true that it requires no ripping it does have to swap back and forth between the CD-rom and the hard disk which slows things down.
Hard disks are about 200 times faster than the speediest CD-ROM. If one rips a DVD to their hard disk and then uses Nero recode there will be no file swapping. On the fly recording may also have another disadvantage, buffer underuns which could lead to coasters on mid powered PCs, especailly if the are the store bought variety.
On Friday June 4th, I rpped a 6.6 gig movie in 13 minutes in file mode with nothing taken out. After the rip I used Nero to recode and burn. It took me only 34 minutes from rip to burn including prep time. Yesterday I posted an example of a software conflict with Hauppauge and Inter video. Below is another example I copies from Aheads web site.
InCD 4 and MediaPlayer 7
There is a problem when you install the Windows MediaPlayer7 ex post to InCD 4.
To fix this, please download and execute this patch.
Please note: This patch is only for Windows 2000 and XP (not for Win 9.xx or NT) systems. InCD 4 must be installed and running.
If an error occurs while execute the file, an error message will show up stating what went wrong.
I've known for years about the ills of Packet writing software but the point I've made here is still valid.
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5. June 2004 @ 08:58 |
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Excellent post there Sophocles. Goes to show... Do we have a new Recode convert?
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5. June 2004 @ 09:44 |
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brobear, I used dvd20ne last nite, worked really well, may be the way to go for dual layer.
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5. June 2004 @ 10:08 |
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I've stated many times that there seems to be evidence that DVD2One is a better choice when backing up large type 9 DVDs. I used to back up Return of The King.
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5. June 2004 @ 10:15 |
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Altho I used recode for that particular movie, the compression was at, I believe 51%! The picture was very good, especially at that much compression, however, last nite I did Men in Black ll (2 disc) with dvd2one and was extremely pleased with the results. The fact it worked well with Nero didn't hurt the either. I am in accordance Sophocles.
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