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Woman kills child after he interrupts her 'Farmville' gaming
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article published on 28 October, 2010
Alexandra Tobias of Florida has plead guilty to murder today, months after killing her 3-month-old son for interrupting her game of Farmville.
Farmville is a game on Facebook where users own their own farms and interact with other farm owners from around the world.
In January, Tobias was playing the computer game and became angry after her baby Dylan started crying.
She shook the ... [ read the full article ]
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Morreale
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29. October 2010 @ 01:13 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by Morreale:
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it's all cannabis, alcohol and sex.
Hate the player, not the game..
Can't I hate both?
Uh no, that's just tomfoolery!
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crunk15
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29. October 2010 @ 01:23 |
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it's all cannabis, alcohol and sex. there is no dignity in people like her, ROT IN HELL!
What the *bleep* does that have to do with the article? Nothing at all. And seriously blaming cannabis, the last time I seen people smoke marijuana they didn't have the energy to go kill someone let alone get off the couch to eat their next chip. Know your facts before you blab your mouth off.
Secondly this woman clearly has issues that would cause her to shake her child in the first place; could be stress, could be postpartum considering the child was only 3 months old. I not saying it excuses her for what she did, but labeling her a monster off the hop is a tad aggressive. Shaking a baby or toddler is more common than people admit as well, and it doesn't take much for someone to get that little bit annoyed at crying if its dragged on for hours on end.
Last this report wasn't exactly very detailed, and I hope the reports on the actual trail *even tho she pleaded guilty they will still want to lay out the evidence hear why*; are more detailed to give us an understanding before we so prematurely judge the situation. Shame on her for killing her child, that's something she has to look at every time she see's a mirror; shame on those who judge without knowing all the facts, last time I checked we aren't god, nor are we nearly as innocent.
finally someone think clearly and not be bias about this! its a horrible thing that happened but it isnt black and white theres no point on putting our own spin on things and pointing fingers until we get more details from the trial.
i will admit that pic doesnt do her justice. she must have some issues
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crunk15
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29. October 2010 @ 01:30 |
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Originally posted by WW3:
it's all cannabis, alcohol and sex. there is no dignity in people like her, ROT IN HELL!
why is sex even in that category? there is nothing negative about it
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29. October 2010 @ 03:23 |
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Most likely was also on government assistance of some kind. This is why you don't give our tax dollars to people who cannot afford to have children in the first place.
The more kids you have, the less you get! Problem solved.
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29. October 2010 @ 03:34 |
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As a guy who was shaken as a baby, I'm getting a kick outta this discussion...
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29. October 2010 @ 04:25 |
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Her and Lebron James im sure hang out together
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29. October 2010 @ 05:09 |
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Originally posted by crunk15:
Originally posted by WW3:
it's all cannabis, alcohol and sex. there is no dignity in people like her, ROT IN HELL!
why is sex even in that category? there is nothing negative about it
Without sex there would be no children; without children there would be no adults...therefor, sex could be blamed for everything that man kind has ever done.
As for Cannabis, I assume you meant Marijuana, and not hemp? Not sure how this even applies to the story anyway...she smoked tobacco between baby shakes...if she had smoked marijuana, the second shake would not have happened. Perhaps we should blame Tobacco? Or maybe farmville, or Facebook, or god for giving her the arms that she used to kill her child? All of these would make a lot more sense than blaming the plant that was used to make the twine inside her couch (Cannabis), or the additive that makes her car run cleaner (alcohol).
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29. October 2010 @ 06:53 |
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Well, its the lady's fault...I was also an avid farmer, got to lv 78! but then I could see the effects it was having on my lifestyle, the sinking feeling in stomach that I got after not playing for even a single day...and I got to experience exactly how the smokers and drinkers feel..I've complete given up online gaming now..only casual games.
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29. October 2010 @ 07:47 |
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Originally posted by NHS2008:
I've complete given up online gaming now..only casual games.
Farmville is a casual game...it is the very definition of casual game.
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29. October 2010 @ 07:51 |
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did you smoke pot at 12 months, 18 months, 2,3,5 and 13 years of age?
I did. Still do.
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29. October 2010 @ 08:44 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by NHS2008:
I've complete given up online gaming now..only casual games.
Farmville is a casual game...it is the very definition of casual game.
Not quiet. It depends on how you choose to play it..you can play casually but Its not GTA..so no fun in that. You just have to play it seriously. And it has all these little rewards,ribbons and collectibles..specials,limited editions..you just can't get enough of it..it's damn addictive! and then at first they had a 70 level limit so I was like "okay I will just reach level 70 and thats it!" but then when I got to lv.67, they raised it to 90 and then past 100!! So finally I gave up...It's anything but casual..
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29. October 2010 @ 08:51 |
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Not quiet. It depends on how you choose to play it..you can play casually but Its not GTA..so no fun in that. You just have to play it seriously. And it has all these little rewards,ribbons and collectibles..specials,limited editions..you just can't get enough of it..it's damn addictive! and then at first they had a 70 level limit so I was like "okay I will just reach level 70 and thats it!" but then when I got to lv.67, they raised it to 90 and then past 100!! So finally I gave up...It's anything but casual..
But would it be enough to kill your kid? O_o
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29. October 2010 @ 10:01 |
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Originally posted by Mysttic:
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Not quiet. It depends on how you choose to play it..you can play casually but Its not GTA..so no fun in that. You just have to play it seriously. And it has all these little rewards,ribbons and collectibles..specials,limited editions..you just can't get enough of it..it's damn addictive! and then at first they had a 70 level limit so I was like "okay I will just reach level 70 and thats it!" but then when I got to lv.67, they raised it to 90 and then past 100!! So finally I gave up...It's anything but casual..
But would it be enough to kill your kid? O_o
Well, It shows how much of involved the woman had gotten in the virtual world. Over the time as she played more and more her priorities subconsciously shifted from real world to virtual world..and aggregate of all these events led to her violent actions..I am sure she did not intend to kill her child there...but in the height of that one moment..
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29. October 2010 @ 11:01 |
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29. October 2010 @ 12:16 |
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This is not about Farmville. I don't care what the news articles say. This is the culmination of many things in her life that have been interrupted by her child and her inability to handle it all. The police probably put it in the report that she was playing Farmville at the time and that became the story. Sensationalism is the norm these days. Anything for a good story. "Baby dies after being shaken" is far less attention grabbing (because its a tragically common occurrence) than "Farmville mom kills baby."
I'm not going to get into views on what her problems may have been and what should happen to her. But let's get off the "blame gaming" and "addictive gaming can cause someone to kill" bandwagon. I honestly don't think we are talking about someone with relatively normal circumstances whose life went into a downward spiral when she became addicted to Farmville.
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29. October 2010 @ 13:05 |
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Wow...I don't care what circumstances she was in or what problems she had. There is absolutely no excuse for what she did. Glad she'll have 25 years to think about it...
Just my $0.02,
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KSib
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29. October 2010 @ 13:54 |
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Two words: crazy eyes.
Stay away from those girls with the crazy eyes.
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29. October 2010 @ 14:01 |
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Originally posted by emugamer:
This is not about Farmville. I don't care what the news articles say. This is the culmination of many things in her life that have been interrupted by her child and her inability to handle it all. The police probably put it in the report that she was playing Farmville at the time and that became the story. Sensationalism is the norm these days. Anything for a good story. "Baby dies after being shaken" is far less attention grabbing (because its a tragically common occurrence) than "Farmville mom kills baby."
I'm not going to get into views on what her problems may have been and what should happen to her. But let's get off the "blame gaming" and "addictive gaming can cause someone to kill" bandwagon. I honestly don't think we are talking about someone with relatively normal circumstances whose life went into a downward spiral when she became addicted to Farmville.
Yea I totally agree with you. This is the real issue. It's easier ( and makes for better headlines) to blame murder on something than to actually try and analyze the situation and find out it is just like every other shaken baby case.
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29. October 2010 @ 14:37 |
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No matter what this lady's hangups were it is inexcusable that people should feel pity or try to explain away what she did. She is guilty of murder and a minimum 25 year sentence was way too light if you ask me. I hope she does not make it out of prison and it is likely she will not as even hardened criminals take a dim view of baby killers.
There are always options so that babies don't have to be a burden if you cannot handle it. She could have given the child up for adoption. Also there are safe haven laws in most states. Florida only gives the option of leaving a 3 day old but she could have gone to somewhere like Texas (where they can be 60 days) or New Mexico (where they can be up to 90 days old). I am sure she was probably thinking about killing that poor baby long before she actually did it.
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29. October 2010 @ 15:20 |
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It's more common than most think,this sort of thing goes on in every country & every city,it boils down to loss of community as that's what it takes to raise one,in other words it takes a whole village to raise kids & society in the western world has lost that aspect,this sort of thing happens every year here in NZ other times it's just child abuse that killed a kid.
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Mysttic
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29. October 2010 @ 16:26 |
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I am sure she was probably thinking about killing that poor baby long before she actually did it.
To say this would imply intent to kill which would mean it was premeditated hence changing the charge to first degree murder, which was evident that it was planned or intended.
Also for you to say something like this also suggest you don't have kids. Do you have any idea what its like to have a crying baby scream for hours no matter if you sing, feed, change, dance, massage their back, walk and nothing still works! It can crawl under the most sane calm person's skin who had no history of violence what-so-ever.
I love how people talk that compassion shouldn't be discussed, or state the woman in this case has no right to defend and yet these same people have never been in a similar situation. So as much as you can say people shouldn't talk about a case this way or that, much the same way can be argued the opposite way. It's a person's right to have reasonable doubt and voice it so, if you don't like it then simply say I don't like it; but don't force your idealism on the rest of the world just because you believe you are right. When it comes right down to it, none of us are right, and neither is she for doing what she done, now she has to live with it and we don't, because by a weeks time this case will be forgotten to us but never for her.
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29. October 2010 @ 16:56 |
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Originally posted by dEwMe:
Wow...I don't care what circumstances she was in or what problems she had. There is absolutely no excuse for what she did. Glad she'll have 25 years to think about it...
You clearly learned nothing from all the logical posts thus far. The death of a child especially at 3 months can happen in an instant. Intentional or not yes she deserves to be punished, but as I said before without knowing the circumstances or anything about her mental state neither you nor I have any business passing judgement on her. This isn't the first time a young mother has killed a child possibly in a surge of emotion and it won't be the last. The best we can hope for is that she gets the help she needs and can go on with her life.
--aaron
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