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11. November 2010 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone had any luck with any blank Media besides Verbatim for 360 back ups? I have read and the only universal thing I have read is cheap media is no good with most people calling memorex out as being no good for back ups. Anyone have any luck with any other brands besides Verbatim?
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11. November 2010 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've had some luck with JVC. I've since returned back to verbatim media. There was a special about 3 weeks ago on newegg and I bought 2 50 packs shipped for under $90. What you've read about memorex is correct. I've never had any luck with them. Some members on here have great success with them, but they're not for me. I've also tried TDK, and had about 20 bad burns out of 50. I've never had a bad burn with a verbatim unless I've shut my laptop by mistake and put it in sleep mode.... Good rule of thumb, stick with verbatim if you can get them.
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11. November 2010 @ 19:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the feedback

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11. November 2010 @ 20:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've used memorex exclusively for almost 3 years now and never had an issue

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11. November 2010 @ 21:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've used Phillips and never had one coaster from day one.


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11. November 2010 @ 21:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've tried Verbatim, Windata and Memorex. Used Verbatim exclusively when I first started burning games, then switched to Memorex. Had 9 successful burns in 50 tries, so I tried Windata. Never had a problem with them coaster wise, but my DVD drive dies a few months after switching to them. Got a new system, went back to Verbatim, no problems.
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11. November 2010 @ 23:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use the Amazon Basics DL DVDs and have never had a problem. Not one coaster in over 100 disks, and no issues with them deteriorating thus far.
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12. November 2010 @ 00:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for all the feed back. I ordered 5 packs in Phillips Memorex Ridata TDK Optimum I 'll look up Windata and Amazon Basics. I'll test them all out and post my results.
Using Lite on and maddog brand burners

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12. November 2010 @ 00:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
this should be fun .. I can see the results now..

Philips.. may be ok.. IF they happen to be optodisk manufacture
Memorex .. wouldn't waste my time burning them
Ridata.. won't even make a working standard d/l dvd
TDK .. use them to put your coffee on.. don't even bother putting your burner through the torture.. will be lucky if any even complete a burn
Optimum.. yeah right.. cmc grade c media.. usually overprint maxell or memorex
Windata .. seen all kinds of disks overprinted with this.. had a spool of Ty's once.. they were ok.. next spool were usual cmc crap

Cheap generic branded disks are always overprint or quality control borderline batches.. verbs work out cheaper in the long run because you don't throw 30% away...

Why not try Gigatain.. those are pretty nice.. best cd's I have ever seen.. not sure how they work in a 360 because I will only ever burn verbs for the job.. No point pissing the customers off is there?



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12. November 2010 @ 02:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ps355528:
this should be fun .. I can see the results now..

Philips.. may be ok.. IF they happen to be optodisk manufacture
Memorex .. wouldn't waste my time burning them
Ridata.. won't even make a working standard d/l dvd
TDK .. use them to put your coffee on.. don't even bother putting your burner through the torture.. will be lucky if any even complete a burn
Optimum.. yeah right.. cmc grade c media.. usually overprint maxell or memorex
Windata .. seen all kinds of disks overprinted with this.. had a spool of Ty's once.. they were ok.. next spool were usual cmc crap

Cheap generic branded disks are always overprint or quality control borderline batches.. verbs work out cheaper in the long run because you don't throw 30% away...

Why not try Gigatain.. those are pretty nice.. best cd's I have ever seen.. not sure how they work in a 360 because I will only ever burn verbs for the job.. No point pissing the customers off is there?

Yeah, I will be interested in these results as well...here is a link where I got my philips from here
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12. November 2010 @ 07:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ill try to get my hands on the Gigatains, I ordered Amazon Basics (Ricoh) and got some windatas from a site called microcenter for like 12 usd per 20. So far I have spent about 70 bucks. And Ps355528 could be right all the disk could be coasters. But I'm curious are Verb's really the only thing that works? I have read a few people have had luck with brands that others say dont work, so whats the catch? the burner? was it where they were manufactured? BTW anyone know who the MGR of the Actual Xbox media is?
Again thanks for the feed back guys

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12. November 2010 @ 07:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by w00ly:
I've used memorex exclusively for almost 3 years now and never had an issue
i only use memorex,,i have a LG burner and burn them at 4x,the only coasters i get if the disc itself was faulty,200 burns,,5 coasters,



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12. November 2010 @ 07:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Matt898:
Ill try to get my hands on the Gigatains, I ordered Amazon Basics (Ricoh) and got some windatas from a site called microcenter for like 12 usd per 20. So far I have spent about 70 bucks. And Ps355528 could be right all the disk could be coasters. But I'm curious are Verb's really the only thing that works? I have read a few people have had luck with brands that others say dont work, so whats the catch? the burner? was it where they were manufactured? BTW anyone know who the MGR of the Actual Xbox media is?
Again thanks for the feed back guys
Tip if your gonna use Gigatain, make sure you get the ones with the white printable front. The silver ones are pants.
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12. November 2010 @ 07:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
see now your 3rd or 4th person I have come across that said they have had no issues with memorex, were as others swear that memorex are the devil LOL. Have Memorex gotten a bad wrap? where do you usually buy them from? Maybe there are made in different plants.
Biglo30 posted a link to a site where he gets his Phillips from, that works out to be like 63 cents each, thats pretty cheap! thanks I bookedmarked the site.

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12. November 2010 @ 07:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Matt898:
see now your 3rd or 4th person I have come across that said they have had no issues with memorex, were as others swear that memorex are the devil LOL. Have Memorex gotten a bad wrap? where do you usually buy them from? Maybe there are made in different plants.
Biglo30 posted a link to a site where he gets his Phillips from, that works out to be like 63 cents each, thats pretty cheap! thanks I bookedmarked the site.
Your going to get inconsistant opioning on Memorex because they are not all the same, with verbs they are



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12. November 2010 @ 07:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think it depends on the burner and what speed,,i cant burn verbs at 2.4x on the LG,it will not work,all my burns have to be at 4x,and since memorex is the cheaper media,makes sence to me,,yes verbs are the best,but cost wise,,il stick with memorex



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12. November 2010 @ 10:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just used up a spindle of TDK and they did just fine.


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12. November 2010 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've gone through 100 memorex discs on an LG burner at 2.4 with only 3 coasters. Used Verbs for the longest time but tried memorex since they are cheaper. I have most of my games installed so the disc drive doesn't struggle reading the discs either.
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12. November 2010 @ 13:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by MingFu:
I've gone through 100 memorex discs on an LG burner at 2.4 with only 3 coasters. Used Verbs for the longest time but tried memorex since they are cheaper. I have most of my games installed so the disc drive doesn't struggle reading the discs either.
Yeah I do the same as well, I just install the majority of my games on the hard drive, mainly because I hate how loud the xbox is without doing so.
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12. November 2010 @ 15:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok so first test Memorex on Lite on Burner with Black Ops and got about %50 through and got an I/O error and failed. Next Memorex on Maddog Burner With Black Ops Force Unleashed 2 and red dead redemption. All three burns went flawless all three played on a 360 Samsung drive flashed with Ixtreme 1.61 via JungleFlasher. Will update when I get other Media.

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12. November 2010 @ 19:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by biglo30:
Originally posted by MingFu:
I've gone through 100 memorex discs on an LG burner at 2.4 with only 3 coasters. Used Verbs for the longest time but tried memorex since they are cheaper. I have most of my games installed so the disc drive doesn't struggle reading the discs either.
Yeah I do the same as well, I just install the majority of my games on the hard drive, mainly because I hate how loud the xbox is without doing so.
need to jtag for that?

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13. November 2010 @ 05:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Correct me if Im wrong but last time i checked Memorex doesn't make their own dvd's. One stack might be ritek and the next stack could be tayo yudens. You can use dvd identifier or something similar to see what kind you got.

*typically when one name brand company makes some of their product for some other brand that's called 'Generic'

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13. November 2010 @ 06:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by gnoby:
Correct me if Im wrong but last time i checked Memorex doesn't make their own dvd's. One stack might be ritek and the next stack could be tayo yudens. You can use dvd identifier or something similar to see what kind you got.

*typically when one name brand company makes some of their product for some other brand that's called 'Generic'
yep, ImgBurn says these are ritek. Hey just out of curiosity what kind of burners are you guys using?

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13. November 2010 @ 13:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pioneer makes really good burners, thats what i have. One of my friends has a Samsung external burner and has never had a coaster(using verbatim DL).
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15. November 2010 @ 22:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So I tried Windata and Phillips today

Phillips: Madden 11 Success on Mad Dog Drive
Phillips: Medal of Honor Fail on Mad Dog Drive
Phillips: Medal of Honor Success on Lite on Drive
Phillips: Tiger Woods Success on Mad Dog Drive
Phillips: COD Black Ops Success on Lite on Drive

Windata: COD Black Ops Fail on Lite on Drive
Windata: COD Black ops Fail on Mad Dog Drive
Windata: Tiger woods Fail on Mad Dog
Windata: Madden 11 Success on Mad Dog Drive
Windata: Medal of Honor Success on Mad Dog Drive

Verbatim 5 for 5 on Both drives various games no coasters
So far Verbatim perfect
only one coaster from memorex
Still waiting on TDK Optimum and Amazon Basics(ricoh)

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