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nascards
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14. June 2004 @ 05:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok here we go. I just tried to burn the Osbornes 1st season I get error**
failed to read file "E:\"
Data error [cyclic redundancy check ]
any ideas
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14. June 2004 @ 09:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was just playing with the guy. I'm really not sure why he has this huge chip on his shoulder, but oh well. To all involved I am sorry. I wasn't trying to waste everyone's time with crap like this.

To Loner
Dude, what is with the hostility? You made a huge deal about me making a post. You were so upset about it that you had to make a comment in the thread. I made a little joke about you getting upset and then you come on like a bull in a china shop with the cussing and the name calling. I was playing around I thought it was funny when you were getting all riled up, but dude you need to chill. I am not real sure why you are here, but I am trying to have fun, I like computers, movies, and helping people out. Life is too short man, there is no reason to go getting all pissed of at anyone. So sorry that you took this so seriously and sorry you got so pissed off, but I was just goofing around. You can continue to be pissed off if you want, but I won't return your hostility.

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14. June 2004 @ 10:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Data error [cyclic redundancy check ]
Usually means a dirty disc. Try cleaning the disc.

nascards
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14. June 2004 @ 10:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK will try that. once again flip218 thanks for all the help.
nascards
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14. June 2004 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yup that worked.flip218 thanks again you have been very very helpfull. and for Roeod4 and Loner
watch Anger Management very good movie I think you both may learn something from it.
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14. June 2004 @ 20:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi nascards. Sounds like you have a set-up very close to mine (I too have a Sony DRX-530UL). You mentioned that you have RecordNow. I wasn't using it at first because when I tried to use the commands to make a video disc, it never found the files in the video_ts folder. Someone on these boards suggested that I use the RecordNow command to make a DATA disc (yep, a data disc) and just put the audio_ts and video_ts folders on it. I was skeptical as to whether it would really work but it did, perfectly -- I've made 30-40 back-ups in the past couple of weeks using this set-up and haven't had even one hitch with the program (a couple coasters were due to cheap media). So now I always use Shrink to rip/encode and RecordNow to burn.

BTW, I upgraded from USB 1.1 to USB 2.0 and my ripping & encoding times went down dramatically -- burn times had been 2-3 hours with 2.4x discs and with the switch to USB 2.0, burning time went down to 25 minutes. Now with 4x discs, burning time is 15 minutes. Encoding with Shrink takes anywhere from 7-8 minutes up to about 50-55 minutes depending on the complexity of the original DVD, so the total time to make a back-up is usually less than an hour. So if you have a USB 1.1 connection, that might explain your lengthy times.

Anyway, if you want to try RecordNow, (1) open the program; (2) click "data disc"; (3) you'll probably get a pop-up notice, just click "continue"; (4) if you want, change the "volume label" to the DVD title by clicking on it & typing in the title's name; (5) click on "add files and folders"; (6) browse to find the audio_ts and video_ts folders you want and click "add"; (7) click "burn." As I said, in my computer using 4x DVD+R discs the burn normally takes 15 minutes.

You might try it once to see if it works for you. I know it sounds counter-intuitive to create a "data" disc, but it works.

In any case, good luck!

Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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15. June 2004 @ 04:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks nascards, I will do just that right about now (clicks play on remote). Ahhh yes, comedy! LOL! <(C:

Yes, I know I am a smart ass!
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nascards
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15. June 2004 @ 16:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
karen2003 thanks for the tips! I will try that. what do you have you settings on in shrink.to burn with record now.
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15. June 2004 @ 17:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Shrink isn't set up to use RecordNow automatically, but RecordNow does an outstanding job burning - it's my preferred burning software :)

Here's a very good link that shows you the exact settings to use with RecordNow:

http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/record_now.htm

One thing to be aware of with recordNow is that it likes to default to "Track at Once, (TAO) Not Closed" instead of what you need - "Track at Once, (TAO) Closed". If you fail to close the disc it will be unplayable.

On the main screen there will be an Options tabs just to the right of the "Add Files and Folders" tab, click Options then go to the DVD section and choose TAO Closed. Now you're set :)



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15. June 2004 @ 18:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I defer to Nephilim who already answered your question. I've seen his answers (I assume it's a he!) all over the place in these forums so I know he knows what he's talking about. :-)

One thing though -- maybe an abbreviated version of RecordNow came with the Sony DVD burner, because in my version, the "options" tab isn't next to the "add files and folders" (I have version 6). Instead, to get to "options" you click on the little wrench that's right under the question mark at the top-right. Go to "data - advanced" and you'll see the options he's talking about.

As for shrink, I just let it encode. Originally my version of Shrink had Nero burning set up as the default, but when it asked me to insert a blank disc to burn the files it had just shrunk, I just clicked "cancel" or "stop" or whatever. Then I got a message saying something like, "OK, burn not done, but all the files were saved here for burning later" and then it gave me the location I'd had the program save them to. So you don't HAVE to do a burn immediately after Shrink finishes its work.

And actually now I'm curious, nephilim -- my default setting in RecordNow is indeed "Track at Once (Open)" but I've never changed it & all my DVD discs ARE playable. I didn't change it because the choices to change it are under "CD Recording Options" so I thought it only applied to CD-R discs. Am I missing something? (In my version of RecordNow, there's no separate section for DVD options.)

Anyway, thanks in advance!

Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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15. June 2004 @ 18:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
P.S. I just went to the site you suggested, Nephilim, and as I thought, we must have gotten an abbreviated version of RecordNow with the Sony DVD burner. The "Orlogic RecordNow MAX" isn't an option in my version ... which is why I've been creating "data" discs.

Incidentally, one of the "Video Disc" options is to upgrade -- when I click on that, it takes me to http://www.sonicjapan.co.jp/cineplayer/. And of course that web site is in Japanese. So much for wondering about upgrading ...

Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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8. July 2004 @ 16:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I Shrink and DVD clonerII. I have a problem with the DVD I copied skipping or locking up. I have a toshiba burner and it only accepts DVD-R. My store bought DVD's work fine. Do you think it is the burner or the program, or something else. It usually locks up the DVD toward the end of the movie, never know how it ends.

Thanks in advance
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8. July 2004 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You might want to start a new thread with your question -- this one is a bit old and so your question might be missed.

From the little that you said, though, it sounds like a media problem -- i.e., bad discs. Search through the media forum or the newbies forum and you'll find lots of info on media.

Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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this one is a bit old and so your question might be missed.
Says who? :-)
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It usually locks up the DVD toward the end of the movie
It could be your burning to close to the edge. When using Shrink, click edit then preferences. Change the target dvd size to custom and enter 4300 for the size.

Also what type of media are you using? That could also be it. Umm ... make sure your ide settings are set to DMA and ... run no other programs. Let us know if any of that helps :)

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10. July 2004 @ 12:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the info.
I am using Memorex, probably crap I am sure, they will be replaced. Hate to sound stupid, but how do I change the Ide settings. thanks

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how do I change the Ide settings.
You'll only need to change if they say PIO ... You want them to say DMA. To check: open control panel -> system -> hardware tab -> device manager -> click ide ata/atapi controllers -> right click primary ide controller -> click advanced tab. Do the same to the secondary ide controller. If you change anything, reboot.

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10. July 2004 @ 13:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Flip
I check the settings and they were set to DMA
The movies typically skip/freeze/lock up after the first hour of the movie. Some movies don't, I am using DVD Shrink and DVD decryptor. I have used Nero, DVDcloneII, but all do the same at certain times. Any help is much appreciated. If this is the wrong forum sorry.

Thanks
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10. July 2004 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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The movies typically skip/freeze/lock up after the first hour of the movie. Some movies don't
This is a result of using poor media. Try Verbatim branded or Ritek discs. Hopefully these Ritek's are still on sale.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/89789

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10. July 2004 @ 13:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Too many Memorex users here -

Memorex is an excellent example as media goes, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record. There are 4 different companies that manufacture Memorex BTW and product quality varies widely as you might imagine. Easy to see now why the quality of a big-named company can?t be trusted - ? Who?s making your Memorex tonight ?? Note: Memorex in the singles, 5 or 10 pack, as a rule, cause less problem than those Memorex sold in bulk BUT they still aren't recommended for DVD backups.

1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized :-(
Besides "Freezing", "skips" and pixelations, many times you?ll get a ?Cyclic Redundancy error? or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won?t accept your ?cheap? media :-(
Another problem which ?pops up? is a ?*Power Calibration Error?. This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media.
*A ?Power Calibration Error? can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn?t usually the case. Trying to shut down your software and ejecting your DVD then restarting your program and re-inserting the same media recently cleaned has been known to help.

Inexpensive media or even average media is great for text, Data, Spreadsheets, .Jpg and .Gif pictures and is good even for MP3 music BUT for DVD backups - BLAaaaaaT! It SUCKTH in an extremely Big-th way !

2. A good grade media is needed for DVD reproduction !
?Branded? Ritek G04's or Branded Verbatim are what we?re looking for OR any media boasting ?Advanced Metal AZO.?, this indicates a superior dye application, while they are sometimes a bit ?pricey? they are acceptable.
Prices online from Meritline.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a 1/2 dollar($ .50 USD) a disc -
Question - If you make coasters out of 3 cheap or even average discs and good copies from 3 Branded Verbatim discs or 3 ?Branded? Ritek G04 discs - which ones then will you say are too expensive ? The 3 ?Cheapo?s with no movie backup OR, the 3 recommended discs with a perfect backup on each disc ?

Bear in mind, Memorex, Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and others are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets, Data and your text backups and archives, they just don?t work well for DVD backups. Even DataSafe G04?s made by Ritek have been reported as inferior quality and are evoking that ?Oh no, I shouldn?t have gotten those.?
Remember, for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win, the majority of people lose, varying amounts but, they still lose :-(

Let's try the right media for the job - just buy a 5 pack of what we recommend that will settle it once and for all - Don?t cheat though, buy the EXACT media we recommended -

Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt.

BTW, In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to the type of composite some manufactures use, their method of dye application and the lack of OR the poor quality control used during manufacturing. when I say "Branded" that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "Verbatim" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than that you are buying now.

cheers,

Pete

FAIR WARNING. . . Memorex users, using that "Cheap" media, your backups may not last all that long -

One thing I haven't addressed is the life of a backup made on an "el cheapo" disc. We all know that data, music and video backups on CD's and DVD's will last forever, well, if not forever for at least 100 yrs or so - That's what we've read and that's why we backup our treasures to disc, so that they'll be safe. "BLAaaaT" (the bone chilling sound of an emergency air horn), Wrong, Dead Wrong ! Don't throw the originals away, you may very well need them. Your video camera tapes and family pictures, may not be there the next time you want to look at them. "Point of fact," inferior discs have a tendency to "Break down" in time. In a very short time, we're talking disc breakdown in less than a single year, as little as 6 to 8 months. Important, please read -

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=513486



Hey Flip my man, I was waiting for you to say something :P)




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Your DVD answers are at ScubaPete's DVD Backup Corner ~>

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html

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jabosler
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thanks a mil
Just ordered some Ritek hope this fixes it.

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10. July 2004 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Hey Flip my man, I was waiting for you to say something :P)
Hello Pete,

Yea I missed it in his previous post. (need to read more carefully). I did noticed in another thread, you don't mind using Memores RW's. Just the +/-R's are crap?

p.s. I like your "FAIR WARNING" ... I predict I'll be seeing it alot, since Memorex is always on sale!!

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Yep, I don't mind the RW's, what can go wrong ?

I don't care if the information doesn't stay long, I change it often enough -

If it doesn't matter if a burn goes poorly, it's re-writeable - For that purpose, Memorex is fine (I use Sony more though - it's only made by 1 company, lol)

BTW, you want a warning ??


The new "Great AZO" media, $ .32(USD) ea are made by 6 different companies at 9 different locations - Using a decent dye and application but on, to say the very least (and to be as nice as possible)a questionable composite material. I wouldn't trust it for more that a few months - I'm testing a few now for the "Time thing."

Pete

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hey is shrink free????
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hey is shrink free????
It sure is :)

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Why did this nasty old thread get dredged up?



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