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Microsoft unveils Windows 8
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article published on 1 June, 2011
This afternoon, Microsoft unveiled Windows 8, the upcoming operating system that should be a complete overhaul from Windows 7, released in 2009.
The goal of the OS, Microsoft says, is for users to have the same great experience whether they are on a tablet or on a desktop.
Microsoft showed off a new start screen that looks reminiscent of the tile-based UI of Windows Phone 7.
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louispq
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2. June 2011 @ 16:48 |
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OS companies should stop worrying about the interface of their products. They should instead concentrate on the performance and the capabilities of their systems to make them more productive. Stop reinventing the wheel.
As for a tablet interface it looks perfect, but that does not mean that the desktop and laptops should get that enabled on default.
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2. June 2011 @ 23:46 |
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I think a big part of the issue is that microsoft has forgotten that some people use PCs for things that you can't do with a tablet. Then again, it is no secret that tablets will be replacing PCs in many homes in the coming years, and that the devices that we call PCs today will become rather rare; especially as cloud capabilities improve. It is possible that Microsoft is actually thinking of leaving the traditional PC sphere; as tablets take more of the industry, versions of windows for traditional PC hardware will make less and less money; they might just dump PC and let Linux gobble up the last few crumbs of the market.
As long as all the crap in the video is just something like media center, where it can be turned off or even completely removed, I won't hold it all against them...but the video seemed to make it look like explorer is a program running within the new UI.
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3. June 2011 @ 00:50 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Recent M$ consumer operating system releases:
Windows 2000 - The first consumer form of NT; it was great other than a lack of a 64-bit version
Windows ME - The worst of all the Win9x variants.
Windows XP - Almost as good as 2000, and with a 64bit version...once Windows 2000 drivers got rare, XP became king.
Windows Vista - The worst of all the NT variants with the possible exception of 3.5
Windows 7 - The best x64 Windows ever made
What does the pattern up to this point tell you about Windows 8?
first thing I thought of after reading the title.
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jackalguy
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3. June 2011 @ 04:27 |
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I'm actually thrilled to see the functionality and style of this shell. I'm currently using the Omnimo 3 skin for Rainmeter on Windows 7, and it looks fairly similar to this (google it). I was skeptical at first about the functionality of such a UI, but with a bit of customization, including macroing 3D document flip, as well as Logitech's application switcher, to my mouse, I effectively rendered the taskbar useless and put it on autohide to give a sleek seemless UI. After all, on a daily basis most users simply sit down at their desk, open their browser, facebook, google, games, media, etc, all of which can easily be accessed by such an interface, and tiles can be included for more advanced options, such as RSS feeds, CPU/GPU/Memory monitors, comp manager, regedit, event viewer, etc. As long as Microsoft makes this shell customizable, or at least somewhat flexible, I have great expectations.
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3. June 2011 @ 08:10 |
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I don't see anything wrong with Windows 8.
Microsoft is just trying to catch up with the rest of the world.
The video is very funny though. A really 'out of it' baldheaded guy saying things like we're going to show you some "really cool stuff" in a room that looks like a dump with a huge large screen TV monitor.
God bless them, it takes real balls to be that clueless and proud of it.
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3. June 2011 @ 10:22 |
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If you want a Windows desktop you'll stick with Vista or 7. If you want a newer operating system you'll buy a Mac or swap to Linux, If you want a tablet you'll buy one running a Tablet OS. Who are they selling this to?
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elitepunk
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3. June 2011 @ 10:22 |
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Did you dudes honestly all go to WiNDOWS 7 already..? Personally i can't stand the OS, and usually find myself still using XP SP2 lol XD...i mean...the os sucks...i cant stand its taskbar, and the pointless bloatware included..just my opinion tho..feel free to play directx-11 only games! i guess thats one place im missing out, but lucky me, there hasn't been a game that is directx 10/11 exclusive that i even wanna play.
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jimbucc
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3. June 2011 @ 10:41 |
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Windows 7 is a great OS. I have never had one problem with it and I do some pretty intensive work on it. It is the best OS that Microsoft has put out.
Windows 8 to me has a lot of promise. MS is catching up in the tablet market and making its OS tablet friendly. I can admire that and see its potential.
But for my needs, it isn't important. It needs to be as stable as Win7 and hopefully has some improvements in stability, speed, and security. Getting my customers to use Win8 because it has these tablet enhancements won't be a big sell. What will sell is improvements in the OS that will help them work more efficiently. I am interested in what else they have planned for Windows 8.
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3. June 2011 @ 11:31 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Did you guys even watch the video? This OS looks FANTASTIC, seriously.
I did and yes it looks like crap!
I saw some beta shots before this tile garbage and thought wow that might be nice but there is no way I'll move to this Start menu tile shat, no way! And I garantee you businesses won't be interested in this shat either!!
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Windows 7 is a great OS. I have never had one problem with it and I do some pretty intensive work on it. It is the best OS that Microsoft has put out.
No, Windows 7 has problems several as a matter of fact but it is a good OS over all. XP is hands down the best MS OS to date.
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3. June 2011 @ 12:19 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Did you guys even watch the video? This OS looks FANTASTIC, seriously.
I did and yes it looks like crap!
I saw some beta shots before this tile garbage and thought wow that might be nice but there is no way I'll move to this Start menu tile shat, no way! And I garantee you businesses won't be interested in this shat either!!
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jimbucc,
Windows 7 is a great OS. I have never had one problem with it and I do some pretty intensive work on it. It is the best OS that Microsoft has put out.
No, Windows 7 has problems several as a matter of fact but it is a good OS over all. XP is hands down the best MS OS to date.
And....your comment is clearly biased and without merit and just lame. Show your experience buddy. I'm 37 and have been in IT solidly since 98 and can say without question that while XP was a great system, Win7 is by far more effective, stable and proficient at "today's computing".
Go blow.
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killer1on
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3. June 2011 @ 12:41 |
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3. June 2011 @ 12:47 |
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I've always found it strange how some people are so scared of change that they will bash what they do not know. Windows 7 is the best MSFT operating system to date, period. Windows XP was great but it is now 10 years old, it is time to move on. Let's be honest here, as well, Vista had its annoyances but it was not "the devil" people claim it to be. Most people who bashed it never owned it, let alone tried it. If you had a dual-core computer with 2GB RAM and removed the UAC, chances are you didn't have too many problems with Vista.
Windows 8 is moving where the world is moving, touch + social. It is time to embrace change. Is it really so hard to do ONE extra click to get back to your regular computer desktop from the Win 8 start screen? No. That extra millisecond will likely not make a difference in anyone's life, yet brings a host of new options and widgets.
I am not a Microsoft fanboy by any means (I think they are a poorly run company that has killed value for their shareholders for years now) but Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 will be hits. The timeframe for that WP7 statement is up for debate, however.
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3. June 2011 @ 12:55 |
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1 word: GARBAGE
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3. June 2011 @ 12:57 |
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Originally posted by hearme0:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Did you guys even watch the video? This OS looks FANTASTIC, seriously.
I did and yes it looks like crap!
I saw some beta shots before this tile garbage and thought wow that might be nice but there is no way I'll move to this Start menu tile shat, no way! And I garantee you businesses won't be interested in this shat either!!
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jimbucc,
Windows 7 is a great OS. I have never had one problem with it and I do some pretty intensive work on it. It is the best OS that Microsoft has put out.
No, Windows 7 has problems several as a matter of fact but it is a good OS over all. XP is hands down the best MS OS to date.
And....your comment is clearly biased and without merit and just lame. Show your experience buddy. I'm 37 and have been in IT solidly since 98 and can say without question that while XP was a great system, Win7 is by far more effective, stable and proficient at "today's computing".
Go blow.
I'm older than you by a lot and have been in IT/compuuters well before you were even born, plus I'm an Electrical Engineer so my experience and most likely knowledge is much more than yours obviously.
Your blow is just that!
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elitepunk
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3. June 2011 @ 13:42 |
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TELL IT LIKE IT IS MR-MOVIES...
XP-4-LiFE...YOU CAN RUN XP ON A FAST COMPUTER YOU KNOW...LIKE ME HEHE..
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jackalguy
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3. June 2011 @ 14:09 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
I've always found it strange how some people are so scared of change that they will bash what they do not know. Windows 7 is the best MSFT operating system to date, period. Windows XP was great but it is now 10 years old, it is time to move on. Let's be honest here, as well, Vista had its annoyances but it was not "the devil" people claim it to be. Most people who bashed it never owned it, let alone tried it. If you had a dual-core computer with 2GB RAM and removed the UAC, chances are you didn't have too many problems with Vista.
Windows 8 is moving where the world is moving, touch + social. It is time to embrace change. Is it really so hard to do ONE extra click to get back to your regular computer desktop from the Win 8 start screen? No. That extra millisecond will likely not make a difference in anyone's life, yet brings a host of new options and widgets.
I am not a Microsoft fanboy by any means (I think they are a poorly run company that has killed value for their shareholders for years now) but Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 will be hits. The timeframe for that WP7 statement is up for debate, however.
Agree 100%. I find it baffling that people still insist that XP was -- and always will be -- the greatest OS of all time. I can count on one hand how many times Windows 7 x64 or Vista x64 have BSOD'd on me, and I build systems, so the majority have been from overclocking. XP on the other hand... It goes back to the point about your hardware. Of course operating systems going forward are going to utilize higher end hardware, that's just the evolution of technology. If you don't own that higher end hardware, you can't use that as an excuse to bash an operating system you can't optimize.
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MDEnce
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3. June 2011 @ 14:12 |
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I hope you can disable the WP7 tiles for regular desktops for a Win Vista/7 feel.
The "snap" looks cool though - just hope it supports multiple monitors!
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3. June 2011 @ 14:50 |
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Originally posted by jackalguy:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
I've always found it strange how some people are so scared of change that they will bash what they do not know. Windows 7 is the best MSFT operating system to date, period. Windows XP was great but it is now 10 years old, it is time to move on. Let's be honest here, as well, Vista had its annoyances but it was not "the devil" people claim it to be. Most people who bashed it never owned it, let alone tried it. If you had a dual-core computer with 2GB RAM and removed the UAC, chances are you didn't have too many problems with Vista.
Windows 8 is moving where the world is moving, touch + social. It is time to embrace change. Is it really so hard to do ONE extra click to get back to your regular computer desktop from the Win 8 start screen? No. That extra millisecond will likely not make a difference in anyone's life, yet brings a host of new options and widgets.
I am not a Microsoft fanboy by any means (I think they are a poorly run company that has killed value for their shareholders for years now) but Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 will be hits. The timeframe for that WP7 statement is up for debate, however.
Agree 100%. I find it baffling that people still insist that XP was -- and always will be -- the greatest OS of all time. I can count on one hand how many times Windows 7 x64 or Vista x64 have BSOD'd on me, and I build systems, so the majority have been from overclocking. XP on the other hand... It goes back to the point about your hardware. Of course operating systems going forward are going to utilize higher end hardware, that's just the evolution of technology. If you don't own that higher end hardware, you can't use that as an excuse to bash an operating system you can't optimize.
Totally wrong and I build and support people in business and homes. Windows 7 will BSOD just as easily as XP but even worst if your System partition gets corrupt. Then you'll spend possibly hours trying to recover which may or may not be successful. There are many other negatives as well about Seven which I could go into but I'm sure it would be wasted time as you are most probably enamored by pretty more than stability. XP went well over a decade that is unheard of in the past and totally supports the statement that XP is the best OS so far.
I don't use XP anymore with exception to VM's and I like Seven for the most part but that doesn't make Seven better just because it has new features. We will see how long Seven lasts but I doubt it will be more than 10 years.
I always hate people that like something based on the fact it is new, just because it is new! :)
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3. June 2011 @ 14:54 |
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I like the interface the way it is. Windows 7 is awesome, 8 is not. I probably won't even do beta testing. But who knows. I've probably only seen a small percentage of the capabilities ;) And if it's even less of a resource hog, I find that interesting. But Linux is also NOT very resource intensive. Never tried it though. I really should :S
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3. June 2011 @ 15:25 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I like the interface the way it is. Windows 7 is awesome, 8 is not. I probably won't even do beta testing. But who knows. I've probably only seen a small percentage of the capabilities ;) And if it's even less of a resource hog, I find that interesting. But Linux is also NOT very resource intensive. Never tried it though. I really should :S
Before this tile crap I saw snaps shots that were pretty cool and good enhancements to the Seven GUI so if you can get rid of the original Start screen by tweaking, it might be worth while, I will beta test it and hopefully you can get rid of the nonsense.
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3. June 2011 @ 17:02 |
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Win8 how about at least finishing work on Win7. The Directx SDK is still only able to program for DirectX9 although Win7 uses DirectX11. I would think that achieving compatibility between the OS and development environments should be a first priority. Why force programmers to desert MS for something like SlimDX.
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sasrob
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3. June 2011 @ 17:06 |
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god know why MS hit the console market. they should of just put the pc gaming on the map. hope this new OS will move gaming on the pc forward..
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3. June 2011 @ 17:14 |
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Originally posted by sasrob:
god know why MS hit the console market. they should of just put the pc gaming on the map. hope this new OS will move gaming on the pc forward..
I have no interest in gaming
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3. June 2011 @ 17:18 |
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I don't game much myself, but it's nice to have a machine that can, when I want to :p
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