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Wii U discs will be single-layer 25GB Blu-ray Discs
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article published on 9 June, 2011
Nintendo's Katsuya Eguchi has confirmed today that games for Nintendo's upcoming Wii U console will be on single-layer 25GB "proprietary" discs.
The PlayStation 3 uses Blu-ray discs, mainly single layer, but some games have been put on dual-layer 50GB discs.
When asked, Eguchi denied to comment on the expected 8GB of internal flash memory in the Wii U, but did confirm that external ... [ read the full article ]
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9. June 2011 @ 15:56 |
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Sufficient IMO. Some of the best games out there fit on a single layer. I believe infamous 2 is only 14GB. FF XIII is over 40GB, but that's mainly movies.
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9. June 2011 @ 17:04 |
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I can see sony taking money from Nintendo but I don't see Nintendo giving money to sony. I think Nintendo will have a disc that holds 25GB but it will not be blueray. Everyone into tech knows that there is more disc types out there, its not just cd dvd and blueray.
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9. June 2011 @ 17:07 |
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Originally posted by themind:
I can see sony taking money from Nintendo but I don't see Nintendo giving money to sony. I think Nintendo will have a disc that holds 25GB but it will not be blueray. Everyone into tech knows that there is more disc types out there, its not just cd dvd and blueray.
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Nintendo's Katsuya Eguchi has confirmed today that games for Nintendo's upcoming Wii U console will be on single-layer 25GB Blu-ray Discs.
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9. June 2011 @ 17:11 |
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To clear up some things in this thread...Sony does NOT own Blu-ray, they are one of the founding members of the BDA, which includes a ton of companies like Apple, Samsung, Philips, Fox, Warner, Disney, LG and Intel (there are more, but Nintendo and Microsoft are not on that list).
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9. June 2011 @ 17:16 |
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The original source article just mentions that "the system's proprietary disc format will hold 25 Gigabytes of data". They follow that with a casual mention that that matches up with the size of a single layer Blu-ray disc. I don't know that Eguchi actually confirmed that they were using Blu-ray technology.
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9. June 2011 @ 17:23 |
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9. June 2011 @ 17:28 |
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Someone should change the title of this news story. Some people might get uppity.
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9. June 2011 @ 17:54 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
To clear up some things in this thread...Sony does NOT own Blu-ray, they are one of the founding members of the BDA, which includes a ton of companies like Apple, Samsung, Philips, Fox, Warner, Disney, LG and Intel (there are more, but Nintendo and Microsoft are not on that list).
"Sony holds the most patents related to the disc design structure which potentially will garner them the highest profits on the technology. Where Panasonic gets paid for every player sold, Sony gets paid for every disc produced."
These are the founding members of Blu-ray witch founded BDA...
Hitachi, Ltd.
LG Electronics Inc.
Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.
Pioneer Corporation
Royal Philips Electronics
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Sharp Corporation
Sony Corporation
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9. June 2011 @ 22:32 |
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Originally posted by themind:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
To clear up some things in this thread...Sony does NOT own Blu-ray, they are one of the founding members of the BDA, which includes a ton of companies like Apple, Samsung, Philips, Fox, Warner, Disney, LG and Intel (there are more, but Nintendo and Microsoft are not on that list).
"Sony holds the most patents related to the disc design structure which potentially will garner them the highest profits on the technology. Where Panasonic gets paid for every player sold, Sony gets paid for every disc produced."
These are the founding members of Blu-ray witch founded BDA...
Hitachi, Ltd.
LG Electronics Inc.
Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.
Pioneer Corporation
Royal Philips Electronics
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Sharp Corporation
Sony Corporation
Thomson
...And certainly not Apple; you can't even get a mac with a BluRay drive.
I still have my questions about this disk; they keep talking about it as a custom format, and now it only supports 25GB...is this going to be the Wii all over again...with a drive that can read movie disks and a firmware that blocks it?
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9. June 2011 @ 23:01 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
To clear up some things in this thread...Sony does NOT own Blu-ray, they are one of the founding members of the BDA, which includes a ton of companies like Apple, Samsung, Philips, Fox, Warner, Disney, LG and Intel (there are more, but Nintendo and Microsoft are not on that list).
I don't think you CAN clear up things to Sony haters (or ____ haters in general). If there's reason to hate, they just will, no matter any truth.
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9. June 2011 @ 23:34 |
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Did he clear up that Nintendo was going to use Blu-ray or that they were going to use a 25GB disc? No one said sony owns Blu-ray. But I did say they make money off of every Blu-ray disc sold. No way is Nintendo going to give sony money, not because they both have consoles but because of the failed business deal in the mid 90's.
Still Nintendo did not confirm that they will be using Blu-ray.
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SoulGLOW
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10. June 2011 @ 03:58 |
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uhm yeah.....hd dvd..... :P
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10. June 2011 @ 04:34 |
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The confusion is interesting, I'm surprised Blu-ray movie playback (if it is a feature) hasn't been mentioned so far - which leads me to think it is not.
They could well be using single layer Blu-ray discs to their own proprietary software designs and not enabling Blu-ray movie playback.
It is possible.
25gbs is plenty of space for now & well into the future for a console, that is if you are interested in the actual game and not a ton of the usual cheesy and soon to be very very boring cut video scenes.
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xnonsuchx
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10. June 2011 @ 05:53 |
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From Nintendo's own website:
"Media: A single self-loading media bay will play 12-centimeter proprietary high-density optical discs for the new console, as well as 12-centimeter Wii optical discs."
Notice the word "proprietary" there?
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10. June 2011 @ 06:04 |
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Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
To clear up some things in this thread...Sony does NOT own Blu-ray, they are one of the founding members of the BDA, which includes a ton of companies like Apple, Samsung, Philips, Fox, Warner, Disney, LG and Intel (there are more, but Nintendo and Microsoft are not on that list).
I don't think you CAN clear up things to Sony haters (or ____ haters in general). If there's reason to hate, they just will, no matter any truth.
QFT.
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10. June 2011 @ 13:22 |
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Yeah it's the gamecube all over again...trying to put out a disc format that will be difficult to throw in a PC and duplicate. Not that there won't be a way to load images up on an external drive right away. Prob before the thing ships...lol
Just my $0.02,
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10. June 2011 @ 17:51 |
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Originally posted by Interestx:
The confusion is interesting, I'm surprised Blu-ray movie playback (if it is a feature) hasn't been mentioned so far - which leads me to think it is not.
They probably haven't figured out what to do with it yet, since they are exploring moving games from the big screen to the touchscreen. I could see the MPAA up in arms over making your Blu-Ray movie copy "portable" by moving it to the new controller and possibly taking it with you and showing friends.
Originally posted by Interestx:
25gbs is plenty of space for now & well into the future for a console, that is if you are interested in the actual game and not a ton of the usual cheesy and soon to be very very boring cut video scenes.
Oh yeah, very boring, especially the ones you can't skip. Boo.
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10. June 2011 @ 20:58 |
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It's not going to be Blu-ray. The story and the title of the story are miss quoted.
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11. June 2011 @ 06:31 |
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As I understand it, making a "BluRay" drive requires you to pay licensing fee(s)...but making the exact same drive with firmware that does not support movie disks is a different story. Nintendo probably cut bluray movie support to save $0.50 per system. This seems to make sense, as they did the same thing with the Wii...and they didn't even need to pay licensing fees for DVD.
Either that, or they know that their drives are crap...and that they won't last very long. In that case, they would intentionally block movie playback in order to allow the launch models to get out of warranty before the drives die. Before you go and call me a Nintendo hater for that comment, just look at the Wii; the build quality has actually dropped throughout the life of the system...it might be the first console in history that could claim that dubious honor. Clearly Nintendo is cutting corners from something that was already a circle.
...Or, this is all a big misprint and they really will have true bluray support, including 50GB disks and maybe even the 4+ layer disks that might be coming soon...if this is the case, then the system would be better than the PS3...at least if there were any games available other than the Mario/Zelda/Metroid/WiiSports collection that it will launch with and if the controller wasn't an iPhone with buttons glued to the sides.
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11. June 2011 @ 11:19 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by themind:
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
To clear up some things in this thread...Sony does NOT own Blu-ray, they are one of the founding members of the BDA, which includes a ton of companies like Apple, Samsung, Philips, Fox, Warner, Disney, LG and Intel (there are more, but Nintendo and Microsoft are not on that list).
"Sony holds the most patents related to the disc design structure which potentially will garner them the highest profits on the technology. Where Panasonic gets paid for every player sold, Sony gets paid for every disc produced."
These are the founding members of Blu-ray witch founded BDA...
Hitachi, Ltd.
LG Electronics Inc.
Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.
Pioneer Corporation
Royal Philips Electronics
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Sharp Corporation
Sony Corporation
Thomson
...And certainly not Apple; you can't even get a mac with a BluRay drive.
I still have my questions about this disk; they keep talking about it as a custom format, and now it only supports 25GB...is this going to be the Wii all over again...with a drive that can read movie disks and a firmware that blocks it?
First off the original unit used a DVD player with a custom format, why would they change this it is part of their security, and they ONLY used single layer to begin with. But then went to dual layer down the road so the unit was capable of DVD9 as they stated just like now with BD's. Their launch of the blu-ray will be the same as they will start out using single layer and probably use dual layer later on.
And yes they may not support Movies but let's hope they do this time around. Without them coming out and stating such things I guess we will just have to wait and see.
And DVDBACK23 is absolutely correct Sony doesn't own the rights it is a group who shares the licensing but reguardless you just have to pay a licensing fee and your on your way. No evil empire here blocking the world from their properties, at least not this time.
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11. June 2011 @ 12:18 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
...And certainly not Apple; you can't even get a mac with a BluRay drive.
It's funny, Apple has been a BDA member for a long time, but Jobs refuses to embrace BD on macs, still. Not sure why.
Looking through the comments there is an apparent "uproar" from some members over my interpretation of Katsuya Eguchi's comments for the system. Until someone can explain to me how they are getting 25GB games onto discs that aren't Blu-ray (no HD-DVD doesn't count :P) then my interpretation will stand given the original sources, common sense and the leaked potential specs we have available to us.
The Wii DVD discs may have been "proprietary" but they were still DVDs.
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11. June 2011 @ 12:44 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
To clear up some things in this thread...Sony does NOT own Blu-ray, they are one of the founding members of the BDA, which includes a ton of companies like Apple, Samsung, Philips, Fox, Warner, Disney, LG and Intel (there are more, but Nintendo and Microsoft are not on that list).
Exactly. Sony never own the rights to Blu-Ray, DVDBack is right. Go to Wikipedia. Question I have remaining is why only one WII U controller? I keep getting conflicting reports that yes there will be more the one "tablet" controller. What gives? Is Nintendo giving us the cold shoulder when it comes to multiplayer? I mean I like to play one-person games, but playing with a friend doesn't hurt either. - BLUEBOY
Chance prepares the favored mind. Look up once in a while and you might learn something. - BLUEBOY
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11. June 2011 @ 13:26 |
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"One of Nintendo?s chief game designers let slip to Kotaku that the discs that will hold Wii U titles will be beefier than your average DVD. They are more like a Blu-ray disc, even though the drive won?t be a Blu-ray drive. They?ll be 25GB discs, and proprietary to Nintendo. That means not only did Nintendo release a new console yesterday, but they also invented a new optical storage technology just to go with it."
Link to full story.....
http://www.geek.com/articles/games/wii-u-discs-will-store-25gb-of-data-2011068/
I don't believe Sony OWNS Blu-Ray, but they sure pushed it harder than anyone.
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