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Mrlovkim
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21. June 2004 @ 17:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I decrypt it then use shrink then record,just tried it and now it is working, but one thing I thought I was to unclick burning with Nero, so I should have that checked?

I used Philips but I ordered Verbatim.

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21. June 2004 @ 17:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you have Nero I would burn with it, it is the default burner for shrink, I would rip with shrink, use decrypter if shrink doesn't work. Both rip, you're saving yourself a step by ripping with shrink, just click open disc. With Nero and shrink you don't need decrypter, unless, as I said before, shrink can't rip it. If you re-author in shrink you will NOT have a working menu, if only compress, you will. Check out that guide I gave you the link for. Also, what veblin told you holds true, you will only be able to handle 4 gig files with FAT32, NTFS is the way to go to handle large or dvd9 files.


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Mrlovkim
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21. June 2004 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I will try it that way and see what happens.....I did convert my FAT32 to NTFS and has seemed to solve the error problem and tomorrow I will try another and hope to have any more problems.


Thanks

Al
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21. June 2004 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't forget, if you re-author, click on your main movie and drag it to the window on your left. click on back-up, this will initialize nero to burn. The guide has a link to burning w/nero.


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Mrlovkim
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22. June 2004 @ 00:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do I need to reauthor?

Al
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22. June 2004 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Re-author is up to you. Some people don't like extras, some do. I like deleted scenes, outtakes, and alternate endings, so I leave them in and take everything else out. you decide what you want to keep. The main thing is the movie, the more extras, the less quality of the movie if it exceeds 4.37g's. I get a dvd for the movie, so I like extra quality there and less on extras if I keep any, so i usually compress extras that I do keep more thereby lessoning compression on the movie, thus improving it's quality. On your 1st effort in recode you may want to leave everything alone and just go directly to burn and see what happens. Recode does an excellent job of compressing and preserving pic quality while keeping extras. Use rw's til u get the hang of it.


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Omegand
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23. June 2004 @ 06:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This seems like a good place to ask this. First, Mr. Plextor owner this ones for you. You have a speedy drive. I have the 708A which may have shared you woes. I used XCopy and it made coasters out of multiple disks with no understanding why till this forum where some mentioned the media and/or drive speed may be a problem. I used slower media and seemed to have better luck or try lower the burn speed. Also, update the drivers.

Now for my question which may fall in the dumb zone but must be asked. Considering the problems I had with the overpriced XCopy Gold, I switched to DVDShrink and have had no issues and have backed up multiple disks XCopy coastered. My question is why would someone use DVD Decrypter if you have DVDShrink? I understand some DVD's have to be condensed to be used with Decrypter but why do it? DVDShrink works great alone?? Any clarity on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks up front folks.
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23. June 2004 @ 12:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Omegand
1-shrink can't rip all movies, for the ones it can't, you need decrypter.
2-I like dvdcopy2 alot, it works well with decrypter as a ripper
3-I like quality of other programs better than shrink,ie. Pinnacle Instantcopy8, rebuilder/CCE, Nero recode, and of course,Intervideodvdcopy2, , all of which i use decrypter to rip in file mode and then export to each particular program. so any compressing or re-authoring I will do I can use decrypter to rip,it's fast, and do the rest of my work in those programs.
4-Any re-authoring in shrink destroys menu function and I like a working menu.
5-let me say shrink is a wonderful freeware, I got my start on it, but it is by no means the best out there, It's a great beginner program but I'm always in search of better quality(I have and have used all the aforementioned software)in fact when you get right down to it, why would you use shrink unless you can't or won't spend the bucks?


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paloch
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23. June 2004 @ 12:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was having the same problem. I use one disc that is not Fat32 and I am trying it now. Thanks to everyone for being there and thanks to Mrlovkim for having the problem before me and toughing it out long enough to find a solution.
Mrlovkim
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23. June 2004 @ 13:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
paloch, your welcome and one other thing I have learned which a big difference when burning, make sure you have your virus program turned off.

I have ran into some bad luck and my Plextor 712A is broken and Mycom the place that installed it will be replacing it on Friday, so I had it for 2 1/2 days...LOL

I have to say the whole DVD burning thing is fun once you got a handle on it.

Al

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Omegand
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24. June 2004 @ 05:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Bigorange,

Thanks for all the info for sure. Truth be told I DID spend the bucks. $89 bucks for XCopy which in my personal opinion (and that is exactly that, my opinion) I think is stinks - coastered more than created, also slow, lack of controls and chokes and high speed burns makes XCoppy a no go for me. So much for spending the bucks. Granted, if the court had not shut them down these issues may have been addressed, but that's water under the bridge. You say you use other programs, Pinnacle, Rebuilder, my question still remains. If Decrypter can only read 4.3 GB how do you get DVD's above that to Decrypter? Forgive my "newbish" on this issue but gotta start somewhere. I'm just not understanding...you use Decrypter first then export? What about movies about 4.3GB?
Thanks again up front.
Omegand
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24. June 2004 @ 05:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Also, Check out this thread I bumped into.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/89360
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24. June 2004 @ 09:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Omegand, sorry about your purchase of xcopy, it does suck, wished you'd asked 1st. Pinnacle InstantCopy 8 is only 25.00, or nero ultra 6 is 49.00-it's got everything you need(except a ripper) , and Intervideo dvdcopy2 is 79.00. Those are my recommendations. As far as deccrypter goes reading and writing are 2 different things. Decrypter can read any size file,doesn't matter if it's over 4.3 but since it can't re-author or compress, you must have another program to do that for it, ie. shrink, nero recode, then decrypter can burn a re-authored or compressed file. If your file is under 4.3 then decrypter can do it all by itself. Of course shrink will need another program to burn, that's why it needs decrypter or nero, etc. Nero recode, IC8, and dvdcopy2 have their own burn engines. They only would use decrypter to read the file,if they used it at all. Recode will do it all but rip, shrink will rip and re-author and compress but not burn, decrypter will rip and burn but not re-author and compress, IC8 and dvdcopy2 will not rip, so you can use decrypter to rip or a program like anydvd or dvd43,etc. to de-encrypt instead of decrypter. These tools can be used to "burn on the fly" or you can use them so the program can read and send to the HD to be worked on from there. Is this starting to make sense? In other words, there is more than one way to do it, and most programs need a little help from another in one way or the other. In a nutshell you have to rip, reauthor and/or compress, and burn.
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Omegand
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25. June 2004 @ 06:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You are the man Bigorange. Thanks for all. I figured it out last night. Used Decrypter to file burn and use Shrink to burn. Shrink will burn if you have Nero 5-6 with DVD option intiated. A buddy of mine would have to go into Nero to burn the files but Shrink on my machine does the burn. My theory is it is using the Nero engine, but its nice becuase there is no need to launch a seperate app. Do you know if I can sell DVDXCopy Gold? I know it has funky register but I would like to get some of the money I paid for that. Also, what are you thoughts on SmartRipper?
paloch
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25. June 2004 @ 07:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Now that I am using Shrink and Decdrypter I can't believe how easy the whole process is. One thing I could use help with is the menu.

I tried backing up an entire "Family Guy" DVD so the menus would copy and I got a copy protection error. If I just rip the eight episodes, there is no menu and all episodes run one after the other. That's not very convenient. Any ideas?
Omegand
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25. June 2004 @ 07:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What did you use to rip and what did you use to burn?
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25. June 2004 @ 08:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
omegand, shrink can NOT burn, it used Nero, you just didn't know it because you didn't have to open it seperately. You said you got it and then you said shrink burned, it can't do it. Your friend can do the same thing, he must tick Nero in shrink, then no need to open Nero. OK? GOOD, now, I'm not a big SmartRipper fan, altho it works fine, I just have other ways I'm more comfortable with. It is an alright freeware. I like dvdstripper better, but again, same scenario. paloch, if you do any kind of re-authoring in shrink you will NOT have a menu. IF you got a copyright warning, it means you will have to rip with decrypter because shrink could't do it. I prefer a menu on all my dvd's so that is the reason I don't use shrink much(plus there are many other softwares out there that do a much better job). To you I recommend Nero ultra 6. It has many excellent programs under one roof. It has a program that will create a menu(for your episodes)called nerovision express. It has a program that works like shrink called recode, that will keep a working menu despite re-authoring and I think the quality is better. It has a program that will let you copy or make dvd covers for your cases, has a burning engine, has PC backup, audio, on and on and on. It costs 49.00 at eagletronics and it is all you will ever need except it doesn't rip. For that you can use decrypter(free). IT will also work with anydvd, dvd regionfree or DVD43, these have a 30 day trial. They run in the background and all you have to do is open Nero. They will de-encrypt the movie.


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Omegand
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25. June 2004 @ 10:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"Bigo", no doubt Shrink used Nero, my point was it does not require Nero to be open and used, just present. Hence, my good theory it uses the Nero engine, not the interface. I have burned quite a few copies of DVD for the car DVD player with Shrink haven't come across one I couldn't burn but no doubt as you say, I'm sure one exists.

As far as Nero for Burning haven't tried it but based on this forum and several friends, like anything else Nero has it positives and negatives. All is preference. I have a much better review of Shrink. All copies are flawless and quite frankly I can't stand the menues..take to the movie please!! No doubt for true reproduction having them is nice. Shrink will keep them, as you say, as long as you don't re-author. I tried Gladiator last night with Shrink and it made and exact copy ......flawless. Of course it fit it on one DVD. Taking out the useless audio tracks helps :).
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26. June 2004 @ 06:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Another problem I have encountered is burning mpeg movies to DVD. If I download a TV episode or movie, it is likely to be an mpeg file. I tried using Roxio DVD Builder and the sound and video walked away from each other. The sync was so bad the movie was unwatchable.

What programs have a good interface that can encode and burn with reliable sound?

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26. June 2004 @ 11:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
paloch, I like nerovision express, it also can create a menu which is good for tv shows, so you can go to any particular one, and for movies because it will create chapters for them in a working menu. It will convert files to dvd compliant files. Just another reason to have Nero Ultra 6. One problem tho, I noticed you have roxio, Nero and roxio hate each other's guts, they fight like cats and dogs. I recommend not having both on the same PC. They have been known to interfere with each other's programs.


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forkndave
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26. June 2004 @ 11:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't believe I would use the words "download" and "movie" in the same sentence on this forum. It can get you into trouble with the mods.
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forkndave, you are exactly right. Paloch- To download movie files off the net and burn is piracy. I was under the impression you were using television for your sources. This forum will not discuss piracy and if I unintentionally aided you in this endeavor, I apologize to AD.


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26. June 2004 @ 14:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bigorange,
You can use just decrypter and shrink to rip, compress, and burn.

Visit us at www.dvdhounds.com for all of your DVD needs and discussions. It's a fun new site that could use your support. Everyone is welcome!
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26. June 2004 @ 15:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
???not sure what you're talkin' about there michigan, rip and burn what?


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26. June 2004 @ 22:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"omegand, shrink can NOT burn, it used Nero, you just didn't know it because you didn't have to open it seperately." No worries just keeping the iinfo flowing.;)

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