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Study: Piracy is accepted practice in U.S., but casually
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article published on 17 November, 2011
According to a new survey, Americans seem to have made piracy an acceptable practice, although a very small amount can be considered "hardcore" pirates.
70 percent of 18-29-year-olds surveyed admitted to pirating music, TV or movies, but only 2 percent said they had pirated over 1000 music tracks and only 1 percent said they had downloaded over 100 episodes or movies.
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17. November 2011 @ 18:15 |
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Safe to say, a lot of Afterdawners are the 1%
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KSib
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17. November 2011 @ 18:32 |
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I like how the fine of $10 per track is much more reasonable than people have been sued for. Also, piracy is one of the few crimes that you can talk with others about in a fairly public setting with little to no repercussions (while admitting that you partake in it).
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17. November 2011 @ 18:42 |
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I think a lot of people look at piracy like speeding. Hey that's illegal too, but most people do it.
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17. November 2011 @ 19:13 |
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It's kinda like asking someone if they look at porn.
No one admits to it, but it's the number one industry on the web.
SOMEONE is watching!
I don't think people see the casual downloading of a movie or a TV show as "pirating", or if they do, they don't think about it much.
To most people, what's the difference between watching something on Netflix or watching something from a Hard drive?
Even people who download stuff don't always understand what they are doing. Just based on the large numbers of torrent users, (the absolutely worst way to download)
The thing that amazes me about the movie and music pirate world is how much content is available, made by very competent people and made available quickly.
Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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17. November 2011 @ 19:43 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
To most people, what's the difference between watching something on Netflix or watching something from a Hard drive?
Even people who download stuff don't always understand what they are doing. Just based on the large numbers of torrent users, (the absolutely worst way to download)
I disagree that torrents are the worst way to download. I know people who used limewire up until the end and are now using some other *wire software.
What is better than torrents? I think usenet is stupid. Why would someone pay to download pirated content?
This is all hypothetical of course.
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17. November 2011 @ 19:49 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
It's kinda like asking someone if they look at porn.
No one admits to it, but it's the number one industry on the web.
SOMEONE is watching!
I don't think people see the casual downloading of a movie or a TV show as "pirating", or if they do, they don't think about it much.
To most people, what's the difference between watching something on Netflix or watching something from a Hard drive?
Even people who download stuff don't always understand what they are doing. Just based on the large numbers of torrent users, (the absolutely worst way to download)
why are torrents the absolute worst way to download? :/ when a new Linux distro is released its almost always on a torrent first even on the official distro websites.
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KSib
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17. November 2011 @ 19:49 |
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Originally posted by ThePastor:
To most people, what's the difference between watching something on Netflix or watching something from a Hard drive?
Even people who download stuff don't always understand what they are doing. Just based on the large numbers of torrent users, (the absolutely worst way to download)
Torrents are the worst way to download? Nooope. Much worse ways than torrents to download software or media... like via normal HTTP sites or some Limewire equivalent like the poster above me mentioned. Is there a reason you think that?
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harhumph
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17. November 2011 @ 20:16 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Safe to say, a lot of Afterdawners are the 1%
Nah impossible, what is an avi / mp3 are those sex positions?! *grin*
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17. November 2011 @ 20:40 |
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When US politicians voted to have themselves legally bribed (PACS) they set the example that became the rule.
Unless and until citizens decide that the moral re-armament of the those they elect to betray them is more important than the downloading of movies whose main motif is the fart, I don't expect much to change - nor do I respect those who prefer jailing the little thieves to rewarding the ones who are too big to fail and to big to jail.
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17. November 2011 @ 22:16 |
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Could also write an article titled Study: General corruption is accepted practice in U.S. corporations, but only behind closed doors. In the end, it all comes out even. Almost.
When laws allow unlimited ownership of ideas, it is to a society as iron fusion is to the core of a star.
When verified realities lead us to anger, we must learn to reevaluate our beliefs.
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18. November 2011 @ 04:17 |
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i think if someones caught pirating music they should have to delete it or pay the 99cent fee and get the song of itunes.
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18. November 2011 @ 05:40 |
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How can a $10 fine for a song be acceptable? If you steal a $100,000 car, you don't get fined $1,000,000.
Jailtime? I can steal hundreds of wallets without going to jail as long as I don't use violence (welcome to Spain), but I would go to jail for copying a song? That's just plain stupid.
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18. November 2011 @ 08:44 |
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Originally posted by ajleece:
#2 - Torrents are the worst way to download.
How so? Granted, we don't have anything like we need yet, but from what we do have torrents are spectacular. Large communities that alert to viruses and bad data, high download speeds given a popular enough file, hosts who are not willing to drop off the face of the earth at the first sign of litigation, and you can hide your IP easily through a bit of a proxy network.
I've looked into TOR and such, but just riddled with garbage and extraordinarily slow. Won't touch P2P software, never quite trusted it even when I used to and its almost always a guarantee you'll get some infection or other if your not on linux.
Originally posted by ThePastor:
(the absolutely worst way to download)
What exactly is a good alternative then y'all?
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treyjazz
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18. November 2011 @ 08:51 |
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If a track is good enough to have (and I already don't have it in my library) I will pay the 99 cents to have it.
Alternatively, I invite the RIAA to suck my balls for the rest...
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18. November 2011 @ 09:56 |
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The best way to download is a site like xbox3xxx. Absolutely no way of being traced because you're not uploading shit. Although they don't do movies/TV just xbox games. I personally don't know any other way that's better than torrents for movies with Peer Block running.
That said, these stats are complete BS. I do believe 70% of youth is downloading. But 2% 1000 songs, 1% 100 movies. Pleeeeze. It's probably more like 60%.
"Is that 3 thousand dollar bounty on the shark in cash or check?"
"We can do it the easy way...Or we can do it the REAL easy way."
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Interestx
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18. November 2011 @ 10:17 |
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First of all it's not 'piracy' anyways.
It's sharing.
If you copy & then try to sell on someone else's work that is piracy.
Sharing merely spreads the art......and for more than a few (like myself) it is a worthwhile try before buy.
I like the lossless audio and the extras a decent video comes with but the pertinent point is that the video has to be decent in the first place for me to even bother with it.
(and if they ever were to stop sharing I'd buy a hell of a lot less than I do)
The second thing to remember is that these surveys are like asking people about sex or drug use, people always lie.
Besides what the hell is the exponential increse in net speed about if its not - for the great majority - about downloading films?
And now we want even faster connections for downloading HD encodes.
Yes I know legally streaming video is becoming more of a feature but it's still early days yet.
The film companies can whine all they like but it's really no different than taping films or TV series to VHS off of the TV back in the day.
The studios have had their enormously profitable DVD splurge and now a new norm is establishing itself.
Things change.
They have no God-given right to expect their consumers & customers to do their bidding.
It is they who are supposed to respond to the market, not the other way around......and setting up (yet another) stupid unwinnable 'war' over this is just adding more money to the bonfire.
(and it's not as if they aren't, even now, amongst the most profitable businesses on the planet as it is)
....oh and lets not forget what a bunch of hypocrites these entertainment companies are, what with their part-ownership of and cozy deals with the various hardware companies & ISP parent companie that make copying so easy.
I always wondered when Sony would get around to sueing itself for making blank media & burners.
Silly me, it's only 'the little people' that get held up as an example & ruined with ludicrously excessive fines
(you have to love how a DVD or CD which sells new for $2 suddenly becomes 'worth' several hundred thousand a time when it comes to hitting people with the bought & paid for law.
What a joke.)
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18. November 2011 @ 11:01 |
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Very true, the label is incorrectly used for the majority, it should be stealing and distributing stolen goods. Although there are those that do sell as well but definitely not the majority. Putting it more nicely it would be considered the Robin Hood syndrome. :)
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CaptHook
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18. November 2011 @ 11:08 |
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It's funny how these clowns never give up. The money being spent to prevent file sharing should be channeled to more important things such as making better movies/music. If you want me to spend my money on your content then make it worth me doing so. How many times have you spent your hard earned dollar on media that is just crap.....
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18. November 2011 @ 11:26 |
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I think what you are trying to say is price point based. If products are priced properly people won't waste their time pirating them. If the price is too high then more people will use illegal manners to get what they want.
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18. November 2011 @ 12:20 |
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What no stats for folks between 30 & perhaps 60 or so? You think casual pirating such as copying a rented Netflix or Redbox disc stops at age 29? I don't think so!! Besides lots of people also pirate all kinds of music & audiobooks though file sharing sites with links from Yahoogroups so it's not all torrent files & new releases. Lots of older stuff gets pirated too...
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CaptHook
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18. November 2011 @ 12:23 |
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Price is always relative but that's not my point. I'm more interested in the quality of the media and how the industry needs to adapt. Since media barons know that we have options they should channel resources not to eliminate our options but to put out better content and make that content more convenient and user friendly.
With me tho' it's pointless.. Hence my screen name, but the majority of files sharers would not mind paying for content if they felt it was worth them doing so. In short, don't be draconian but adaptive instead!
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18. November 2011 @ 12:25 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I think what you are trying to say is price point based. If products are priced properly people won't waste their time pirating them. If the price is too high then more people will use illegal manners to get what they want.
A lot of people would sooner download something than pay 5 cents for it.
I disagree that peer sharing isn't piracy. Whether you sell it or give it away via uploading, you're still distributing copyrighted material illegally, hence a pirate.
Anyway, time to grab my wooden leg and feed the parrot
"Is that 3 thousand dollar bounty on the shark in cash or check?"
"We can do it the easy way...Or we can do it the REAL easy way."
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18. November 2011 @ 13:34 |
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Originally posted by CaptHook:
Price is always relative but that's not my point. I'm more interested in the quality of the media and how the industry needs to adapt. Since media barons know that we have options they should channel resources not to eliminate our options but to put out better content and make that content more convenient and user friendly.
With me tho' it's pointless.. Hence my screen name, but the majority of files sharers would not mind paying for content if they felt it was worth them doing so. In short, don't be draconian but adaptive instead!
Good point and definitely a piece of the cake.
pirating of pi·rate (Verb)
Verb:
1) Rob or plunder (a ship).
2) Use or reproduce (another's work) for profit without permission, usually in contravention of patent or copyright.
Wrong pirating is mis-used but nothing new in todays world.
But as to most people would still pirate is pricing was proper, then I would say you are wrong as most would not pirate but definitely some would and would do it big time.
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