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How to burn dvd movies using dvd shrink & roxio
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jeff9756
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30. June 2004 @ 11:43 |
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I've been backing up my dvd collection at home. I first encode it with dvd shrink and then burn it with roxio. I use sonic 4x dvd-r. I put both the audio and video file on the disc. After, I am able to view movie on dvd-rom, but when I take it to my apex 1110w dvd standalone player, it won't play saying "no disc". Why does it play on dvd-rom but not standalone player? Am I doing something wrong? I appreciate any input.
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30. June 2004 @ 11:48 |
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Can your Apex play DVD-R? Maybe it can only play DVD+R. Most newer DVD players play both, but some older ones play one or the other. My old Toshiba DVD player only plays DVD-R. When I put in a DVD+R it also says NO DISC.
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jeff9756
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30. June 2004 @ 12:04 |
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I made a dvd+rw and it worked on stand alone with no problems but what puzzles me is the dvd-r has worked twice in 10 try's in standalone. What do you think is the problem?
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30. June 2004 @ 12:29 |
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I'm not too sure what the problem is. Maybe it could be the brand of dvd-r's that your'e using. What kind are you using? A lot of people have had problems on this forum due to bad media. Just a guess though...
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30. June 2004 @ 13:04 |
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he said, sonic dvd-r. I would bet that your choice of media is the problem. Try a better brand.
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jeff9756
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30. June 2004 @ 13:54 |
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anything you could suggest?
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ScubaPete
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30. June 2004 @ 14:30 |
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As Sly said, move up in your grade of media - * Cheap media freezes, skips, stutters, pixelats, partially jams, may be rejected and lest we forget, our old standby, giving you the old just, refuses to be recognized routine :-(
Besides "Freezing", "skips" and pixelations, many times you?ll get a ?Cyclic Redundancy error? or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won?t accept your ?cheap? media :-(
Another problem which ?pops up? is a ?*Power Calibration Error?. This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media.
*A ?Power Calibration Error? can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn?t usually the case. Trying to shut down your software and ejecting your DVD then restarting your program and re-inserting the same media recently cleaned has been known to help.
Inexpensive media or even average media is great for text, Data, Spreadsheets, .Jpg and .Gif pictures and is good even for MP3 music BUT for DVD backups - BLAaaaaaT! It SUCKTH in an extremely Big-th way !
2. A good grade media is needed for DVD reproduction !
?Branded? Ritek G04's or Branded Verbatim are what we?re looking for OR any media boasting ?Advanced AZO Metal Dye?, this indicates a superior dye application, while they are sometimes a bit ?pricey? they are acceptable.
Prices online from Meritline.com have gotten Ritek G04 down below a dollar a disc -
Question - If you make coasters out of 3 cheap or even average discs and good copies from 3 Branded Verbatim discs or 3 ?Branded? Ritek G04 discs - which ones then will you say are too expensive ? The 3 ?Cheapo?s with no movie backup OR, the 3 recommended discs with a perfect backup on each disc ?
Bear in mind, Memorex, Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and others are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets, Data and your text backups and archives, they just don?t work well for DVD backups. Even DataSafe G04?s made by Ritek have been reported as inferior quality and are evoking that ?Oh no, I shouldn?t have gotten those.?
Remember, for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win, the majority of people lose, varying amounts but, they still lose :-(
Let's try the right media for the job - just buy a 5 pack of what we recommend that will settle it once and for all - Don?t cheat though, buy the EXACT media we recommended -
Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt.
BTW, In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to the way the manufacturer?s cut the corners during the manufacture of the discs. And when I say ?Branded? that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says ?Ritek? or ?Verbatim? on the disc itself.
cheers,
Pete
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ScubaPete
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30. June 2004 @ 14:43 |
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Burning with Roxio
Starting from when you have your VIDEO_TS folder ready from DVD Shrink, open Roxio's Creator Classic. Pick a new DATA project. Type the movie title where the disc name is (000000_0000). You want two folders inside the main disc: VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS. Nothing is in the audio folder; I've heard it's just for compatibility. The video folder should contain the shrunken dvd files and all from DVD Shrink. You can check Project Properties if you like, but it always says UDF file system for me. You can also click Validate Project under the File menu, but again, it always accepts it. The only hairy thing you have to watch out for is misspelling audio_ and video_ts, be sure it's all in upper case type. Once it's all loaded up, burn it. It's that simple. I'm telling you, it has always worked for me, no errors EXCEPT WHEN I USED SOME CHEAP CRUDDY MEDIA.
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jeff9756
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30. June 2004 @ 17:41 |
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This is all and dandy what you are saying, but this is what I don't understand. I recieve no errors at all in creating the dvd and it even works on my computer, so why is my player saying "no disc"? It seems it would be more of a compatability problem than anything. Don't you think?
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30. June 2004 @ 18:06 |
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jeff9756
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30. June 2004 @ 18:36 |
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Well it says its compatabile on the dvd-r media. Let me try a different brand. If that doesn't work, I'm going to have no idea what to do. Will be back when I have my results.
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ScubaPete
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30. June 2004 @ 20:58 |
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jeff9756,
Time to refer to my post on media, it's much more than personal opinion, it's a tried and true fact -
Replacing one poor media for another generally doesn't help and, should it work this time, you'll generally have problems *down the road. Poor media isn't poor all the time by a long shot -
By "down the road" please refer to the following:
A time thing ?
One thing I haven't addressed is the life of a backup made on an "el cheapo" disc. We all know that data, music and video backed up on CD?s and DVD?s will last forever, well, if not forever for at least 100 yrs or so ? that?s what we?ve read and that?s why we backup our treasures to disc, so that they?ll be safe. ?BLAaaaT? (the bone chilling sound of an emergency air horn), wrong, dead wrong, hang you?re your video camera tapes and family pictures, ?Point of fact,? inferior discs have a tendency to "Break down" in time. In a very short time, we?re talking disc breakdown in less than a single year, as little as 6 to 8 months. Important, please read -
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/story.jsp?story=513486
My personal observations on this subject -
I have had 25 to 30 backups that have refused to play after being stored for a year or more. I test all of my backups when they are burnt to be totally sure that there are no problems. "In the Golden, Olden times," before I knew any better, the Maxell and TDK discs (and any thing that was on sale) was what I used to use before I switched to Ritek and Verbatim, it is the cheap stuff that I have been experiencing trouble with. I noticed that backup DVD's I had been using refused to play in my standalone player and on my PC. VOB files wouldn't play either and other discs that I backed up about the same time would "Jam" part way through the movie. After switching to Verbatim and Ritek s, mostly the Ritek's because the price was right, I've not had 1 go "Flat" in almost 2 years. I still have some backups done on the cheap stuff and as time wears on I lose a few more as I attempt to check them. I say to you, why did a backup play fine in "01"and "02" then "fail" in "03 ?? Some that were done in "01" never made it till "02" and others done about the same time and "Failed" in "04"? All of the backups from "02" and "03", done on the "good Stuff" work fine today - not a single failure !
As always, you have a choice -
Cheers,
Pete
BTW, In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to the way the manufacturer?s cut the corners during the manufacture of the discs and the quality control used during manufacturing. And when I say ?Branded? that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says ?Ritek? or ?Verbatim? on the disc itself. The cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than that you are buying now, some starting below $.69 ea (USD)
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Buik
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30. June 2004 @ 21:45 |
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Do not disregard anything ScubaPete has said.
The only thing he did fail to "emphasise", was that you pretty much have to buy your media "online". Your local computer shop is not going to have the good stuff. What they can sell you at bargain, basement prices is inferior to what you can get delivered to your front door for less money. You only have to be willing to expend more money at one time.
TC
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jeff9756
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15. July 2004 @ 16:09 |
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Today I recieved quality media called verbatim dvd-r 8x. Continued the same process as before with DVD Shrink and roxio. Like before, I was able to burn and view on the computer successfully but when I put it in the standalone it still wouldn't play stating "no disc". At this point what do I do? Should I buy a new standalone? I would like one that plays all backups. I'm looking for certainty, not maybes. Another option is setting up my computers dvd-rom as a dvd player to be used for my television set. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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15. July 2004 @ 16:15 |
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jeff9756,
Before you buy a new dvd player, try using the combination of DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter. Hopefully your running Windows 2000 or XP, and using NTFS file system. DVD Decrytper will only burn ISO's
1) Open Shrink, open disc
2) Click "backup!"
3) Change target destination to "ISO Image File", then check the box to Launch DVD Decrypter
4) Click ok.
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ScubaPete
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15. July 2004 @ 16:40 |
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Today I recieved quality media called verbatim dvd-r 8x
Keewl, I haven't tried those - were they the ones with the printable tops and the pink dye ? and can I inquire, what was the price and did you get them online ??
Been trying to get them myself -
Pete
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15. July 2004 @ 16:48 |
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I didn't think Verbatim made 8x -R's ... I thought only 8x +R's.
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ScubaPete
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15. July 2004 @ 17:46 |
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No Flip, they make it in -R
The question is pink or yellow dye ?
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15. July 2004 @ 17:50 |
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Ahhh, yes ... checked the verbatim site again and found them. Thanks again Pete.
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jeff9756
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16. July 2004 @ 05:09 |
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ScubaPete
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16. July 2004 @ 09:55 |
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Thanks for the link jeff9756, I shop there and have been looking for it - guess I haven't been looking very hard, Huh ?
I would think hard before trying to burn at 8X though - the time factor could well add to the error number.
Pete
BUT, I'm going to give them a modest trial :)
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16. July 2004 @ 15:49 |
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I don't like burning at 8x :-) ... I really prefer 2.4x
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ScubaPete
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16. July 2004 @ 17:25 |
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Yep, you're right Flip, 2.4 to 4X - too many problems with X* (I found that out with my Pioneer :-(
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jeff9756
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17. July 2004 @ 18:08 |
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After remaking dvds trying the iso method with DVD Shrink and dvd encryptor using my new verbatim 8x dvd-r's, my results proved to be slight bit better. As per the advice, I burned at 2.4x. My chances improved about 5%. But I still have a lot of dvds that won't work even trying this method. Any idea what I could do now? What dvd player works for all backups? Should I consider trying to set up my computer to my tv to play movies into the television? Thanks.
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18. July 2004 @ 10:38 |
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maybe you player doesn't like 8x dvds.
V9 PS2, flip top, SMD, DVDLoader
Pioneer 107, ritek g05
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