Originally posted by LiveChaos:

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The only problem is: The media will never be unbiased. Every story writer has an agenda/personal opinion. Add to that they are being paid to stir people up and use some pretty sneaky methods to manipulate people or influence them. Especially when it involves politics. Then even in the unlikely event that they do write an unbiased article, it still has to clear the editorial staff who are free to alter it.

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Originally posted by graystroke:

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Except McCarthy was right. Algier Hiss the State Dept. head was a known communist and became the first UN Sec. Gen. and all others that followed have been Marxist ideologues. McCarthy was over zealous in his per suit but he was on the right track. That is not paranoia. Today we now have an administration that openly support and adore Mao and Che and have Marxist ideology. Look at the condition we are in now. Read up on Gorbachev. His commentary at the Presidio was laughing at the West as he said Perestroika works because the west buys into it every time. That Communism is patient and willing to take two steps back to move one step forward. I watched Nikita pound his shoe on the UN Podium as he said he would bury us from within. Well bud we are now there. Lest anyone get the wrong idea BOTH parties are using the Hegelian Dialect to get us into the hog pen as we get comfy getting fed gummet hand outs. Parting note, this all started after the Federal Reserve act was created. The bankers own us, lock stock and barrel.

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Originally posted by aldan:

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mcarthy was a conspiracy theory nutjob.i see there is still a few out there still.

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Originally posted by LordRuss:

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Originally posted by LiveChaos:

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The only problem is: The media will never be unbiased. Every story writer has an agenda/personal opinion. Add to that they are being paid to stir people up and use some pretty sneaky methods to manipulate people or influence them. Especially when it involves politics. Then even in the unlikely event that they do write an unbiased article, it still has to clear the editorial staff who are free to alter it.

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I disagree... slightly. Here's how.

I was a combat photographer. Simply put, no real artistic license, if any of us took photos or video footage that coerced a commanding officer in any way to sway his decision (and yes it can be done) it is an executable offense. PERIOD!!!

Now of course, the 1st Amendment would be righteously be argued by the ACLU & every other alphabet hippie on the planet if we tried to apply that to the civilian sector, but we are talking about the military here. All my rights were (are still) literally gone.

So, maybe to a particular standard, we should have a similar expectation from the media as well. They sure as hell will have us executed for military crimes. Why not off a politician for worse things than what a soldier did? We're held to a higher standard & 2 ("TWO") books of law.

Who was it that said, "With great power comes great responsibility..."? Sounds to me some of these f*kers aren't stepping up to the plate.

Time for some executions.

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Originally posted by LiveChaos:

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Well said... but:


I'm looking more along the lines of mass media, like Fox News, CNN, even your local paper. Headlines are intentionally made to be misleading and to stir up emotional response (sensationalism). It's pretty well known that a vast majority of readers only scan headlines, and that is (ab)used by the media.

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Originally posted by LordRuss:

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Originally posted by LiveChaos:

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Well said... but:


I'm looking more along the lines of mass media, like Fox News, CNN, even your local paper. Headlines are intentionally made to be misleading and to stir up emotional response (sensationalism). It's pretty well known that a vast majority of readers only scan headlines, and that is (ab)used by the media.

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I kinda felt that was the original intentions... & back when the earth was cooling, people used to have to ethics classes before they could wear the badge of journalist or lawyer or doctor or, or, or... Not that the "good ol' days" were always that 'good', but it seemed like folks (for a while) didn't want to start a fight.

Now, as you were seeming to explain it, just want to start an argument. Poke the hornet's nest as it were. Problem is the bastards are to shallow to think a few layers or steps ahead of the consequences of their actions. They just want to sell their papers or soda commercials on TV RIGHT NOW & let some other schmuck deal with it later.

Kind of like the kid that continually shits his pants. If his mom keeps cleaning him up, why should he stop doing it?

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Originally posted by Interestx:

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It is hilarious watching the US right-wing yapping on & on & on about those supposedly awful liberals/left-wingers/socialists etc etc (insert appropriate scary label) who are supposedly bent on taking every private freedom..............as they enact law after law which strip the individual of of their every freedom.

But hey, if it's to the benefit of the already most powerful & wealthy that's ok.
Cos somehow in their screwy world those guys are 'private' and not that scary thing they sneer at called 'Government' (which meanwhile they use to enact said laws taking rights & power from the genuinely private citizen).

Talk about distraction & diversion.
What a joke.
Carry on sleeping people.

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Originally posted by graystroke:

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This may surprise many of you all but the most "trusted" journalist Walter Cronkite was a socialist pushing for a globalist agenda. Way back when so was Orsen Wells and his radio program "war of the worlds"; was a mind control experiment on how to emot the masses it went very well. Now it is a very successful public policy. If you dig deep enough you will find the the Army PsyOps is embedded with CNN to this day to make sure the Middle East conflict is monitored and controlled according the the big plan. It's all out there fellas please make a small effort to bring your self up to speed. I'm an old man and ready to retire and will nt give up w/o a fight.
But you guys are now going to have to take over the helm.

PS and I hate religion and they are also part of this globalist agenda.

Forget your games for a few days and hit the cerebral area about what this is really all about. The 'conspiracy' theory has been the most successful ploy used by them and that is why they are so successful. When the rest of you young geeks get a good smell of the dead fish head you will really be ticked off.....right now your just getting a sniff......good luck there folks and ladies forgive me I meant no slight when I say you guys it's a normal part of my speech.

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Originally posted by Semperfipal:

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Originally posted by Interestx:

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It is hilarious watching the US right-wing yapping on & on & on about those supposedly awful liberals/left-wingers/socialists etc etc (insert appropriate scary label) who are supposedly bent on taking every private freedom..............as they enact law after law which strip the individual of of their every freedom.

But hey, if it's to the benefit of the already most powerful & wealthy that's ok.
Cos somehow in their screwy world those guys are 'private' and not that scary thing they sneer at called 'Government' (which meanwhile they use to enact said laws taking rights & power from the genuinely private citizen).

Talk about distraction & diversion.
What a joke.
Carry on sleeping people.

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Your so right, I couldn't of articulated it better, especially the last sentence about sleeping people.

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Originally posted by Expatriot23:

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:

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Originally posted by Semperfipal:

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Originally posted by Interestx:

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It is hilarious watching the US right-wing yapping on & on & on about those supposedly awful liberals/left-wingers/socialists etc etc (insert appropriate scary label) who are supposedly bent on taking every private freedom..............as they enact law after law which strip the individual of of their every freedom.

But hey, if it's to the benefit of the already most powerful & wealthy that's ok.
Cos somehow in their screwy world those guys are 'private' and not that scary thing they sneer at called 'Government' (which meanwhile they use to enact said laws taking rights & power from the genuinely private citizen).

Talk about distraction & diversion.
What a joke.
Carry on sleeping people.

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Your so right, I couldn't of articulated it better, especially the last sentence about sleeping people.

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So typical from you and so off base it is totally humorous.

Let's look at the Tea Party a very respectful group that is peaceful in nature but wants freedom and equal rights for all. And now the Occupiers from the Left, a very outraged and criminal group, maybe they can baby sit for me (LOL). I can really respect and look up to that group and talk about brainwashed, it doesn't get much worst.

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Good lord, you're both pretty, now stop bickering.

Tea party: pissed about the same things occupy is pissed about.
Occupy: pissed about the same things the tea party is pissed about.

The constant media smear against occupy is because the tea party was defanged by sucking a lot of Koch. Occupy, not so much.

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Originally posted by Panzrwagn:

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Just to put this claim into perspective, the average phone call is 3:15 seconds long X 1.7 Billion Calls assuming the lowest usable sample rate of 4KHz, would require 11.5 Million people listening full time, and the NSA would generate 166 Petabytes of voice data every day. That's about the entire capacity of the new NSA data center according to Wired Magazine. Oh, I forgot to add in the Call Detail Record of what the originating and destination phone numbers and call duration information. That's another 1.7Pbytes

Assuming that the NSA keeps the data fo no longer than a year and has by some miracle found a way to back it up, they would need about 80 Million Enterprise-Class Terabyte Disk drives a year on which to store this stuff. One little problem: The industry only makes about 50 Million of these type of drives per year globally. And the NSA would need another 5,000 drives a day just for replacing broken ones.

Now, do you want to talk about the compute power it would take and the network required to record these calls? I didn't think so.

Bottom line? This is wayyyy overblown. There is no way in the world this is happening to the extent being claimed. Sure the NSA records calls. And they have computers scanning them for key words, obviously. But, like catching speeders on the freeway, they can maybe catch a fraction of 1%. THe rules of physics still apply.

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