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Julian Assange given asylum in Ecuador
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article published on 16 August, 2012
Wikileaks founder Julian Assange has been granted asylum in Ecuador, just 60 days after he began fighting extradition from London by seeking refuge in the Ecuadorian embassy.
Foreign Secretary William Hague stated the UK would not grant Assange safe passage out of the country.
Assange was set to be extradited to Sweden, where he faces charges of rape. Assange denies the claims, saying ... [ read the full article ]
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18. August 2012 @ 08:39 |
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18. August 2012 @ 09:46 |
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Surely Assange WILL go to Sweden voluntarily to be tried, (for he had sex with consent and nothing to fear if honesty is applied), PROVIDED UK, Sweden and USA grant him a Non-Extradition Order. The order to cover him leaving UK, entering Sweden and being allowed to migrate to Ecuador freely, (if and when and after, he had his possible punishment in Sweden...)
But,
Hey he is not charged yet - not in Sweden, nor in the USA.
It seems Sweden, the UK and the USA do indeed have ulterior motives.....
FOR:
If they do NOT intend to follow what is feared by Assange (that he will be extradited to the US), then WHAT is there against granting him a Non-Extradition agreement?
So far Assange is right and Bravo to Ecuador!
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18. August 2012 @ 09:48 |
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Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
Originally posted by Bozobub:
You should care what happens to him, if you care about the rule of law in civilized nations, or the repercussions if we allow silly crap like Britain's threats against the Ecuadorian embassy to continue. Both have potentially dire implications.
I wasn't aware the "rule of law" including avoiding the law and finding others to help you do so.
Are you addressing those comments to the U.S. , Swedish and U.K. governments or to Julian Assange?
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18. August 2012 @ 11:57 |
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Good in this day and age the more leaks the better.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Originally posted by xnonsuchx:
I wasn't aware the "rule of law" including avoiding the law and finding others to help you do so.
It is interesting how money buys those particular rights in/out of that situation too. Guilt of innocence has yet to be proven due to the fact he is buying his own extradition away from even being questioned about the allegations.
An average schmoe can't even get away with that in an attempt to tell a cop to get off of him/herself from a cop with a power trip over a J-walking altercation. Here this asshole is dabbling in international incidents. I'd really like to know just who the F*K he thinks he thinks he is?
Despite, it's like Owled stated, if it were simply a he/she said case of "Buggering Gone Wrong" this whole affair would probably been paid off & gone away months ago. It's because Assange stuck his dick in the wrong glory hole & now the guillotine is about to fall.
It's like Chet said, "You're Stewed, Butt Wad!"
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18. August 2012 @ 15:30 |
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He hasn't been charged probably because Swedish law needs him to be in the country to be questioned.
Laws are different in every country.
The odd thing is, he fled to the UK from Sweden and now that he's attempted 10 to 20 times in UK courts not to be sent to Sweden for the questioning about raping the women but failed to get that approved.
He's now trying to flee to another country that doesn't have Interpol connections and thus doesn't have to be sent to Sweden all seems a bit strange to me.
This is someone who's saying information has to be free and everything has to be known about everything but just not about him raping a couple of girls because that'd be bad or not wanted to be known.
For someone who's saying it was all consented to is pretty damn scared of being sent to jail for rape.
Forget about all the US BS, that's a side issue.
Oh as for the UK not being able to bust the doors down lol, they have already done it back in the 70's when some terrorists were holding a place to ransom.
Even if he did get into a bag the UK will just send up some fighters and force the plane or boat to land in the UK some where.
Just because he posted up leaked emails and stuff still doesn't make him above the law.
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Originally posted by xtago:
He hasn't been charged probably because Swedish law needs him to be in the country to be questioned.
Laws are different in every country.
The odd thing is, he fled to the UK from Sweden and now that he's attempted 10 to 20 times in UK courts not to be sent to Sweden for the questioning about raping the women but failed to get that approved.
He's now trying to flee to another country that doesn't have Interpol connections and thus doesn't have to be sent to Sweden all seems a bit strange to me.
This is someone who's saying information has to be free and everything has to be known about everything but just not about him raping a couple of girls because that'd be bad or not wanted to be known.
For someone who's saying it was all consented to is pretty damn scared of being sent to jail for rape.
Forget about all the US BS, that's a side issue.
Oh as for the UK not being able to bust the doors down lol, they have already done it back in the 70's when some terrorists were holding a place to ransom.
Even if he did get into a bag the UK will just send up some fighters and force the plane or boat to land in the UK some where.
Just because he posted up leaked emails and stuff still doesn't make him above the law.
Mostly because the likely hood of it being true is rather low.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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18. August 2012 @ 15:38 |
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Originally posted by Owled:
Surely Assange WILL go to Sweden voluntarily to be tried, (for he had sex with consent and nothing to fear if honesty is applied), PROVIDED UK, Sweden and USA grant him a Non-Extradition Order. The order to cover him leaving UK, entering Sweden and being allowed to migrate to Ecuador freely, (if and when and after, he had his possible punishment in Sweden...)
But,
Hey he is not charged yet - not in Sweden, nor in the USA.
It seems Sweden, the UK and the USA do indeed have ulterior motives.....
FOR:
If they do NOT intend to follow what is feared by Assange (that he will be extradited to the US), then WHAT is there against granting him a Non-Extradition agreement?
So far Assange is right and Bravo to Ecuador!
Not charged but is a wanted person by the Swedish police for the questioning of raping 2 women.
For which he hasn't answered and has only ran away so far.
So far the US haven't charged him either and he's in the UK who could just send him to the US and could have done that many months ago he was in a house in London for a year so before spending 2 months with the Ecuador people, if the US wanted him to charge him they could have done it already.
Anyway the US already got the right person that was that bradley guy you know the one.... the person in the army who actually copied the emails and stuff and gave it to assange to post up.
So it's just Assange BS people so he doesn't end up in sweden, that's all it is.
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Originally posted by xtago:
Originally posted by Owled:
Surely Assange WILL go to Sweden voluntarily to be tried, (for he had sex with consent and nothing to fear if honesty is applied), PROVIDED UK, Sweden and USA grant him a Non-Extradition Order. The order to cover him leaving UK, entering Sweden and being allowed to migrate to Ecuador freely, (if and when and after, he had his possible punishment in Sweden...)
But,
Hey he is not charged yet - not in Sweden, nor in the USA.
It seems Sweden, the UK and the USA do indeed have ulterior motives.....
FOR:
If they do NOT intend to follow what is feared by Assange (that he will be extradited to the US), then WHAT is there against granting him a Non-Extradition agreement?
So far Assange is right and Bravo to Ecuador!
Not charged but is a wanted person by the Swedish police for the questioning of raping 2 women.
For which he hasn't answered and has only ran away so far.
So far the US haven't charged him either and he's in the UK who could just send him to the US and could have done that many months ago he was in a house in London for a year so before spending 2 months with the Ecuador people, if the US wanted him to charge him they could have done it already.
Anyway the US already got the right person that was that bradley guy you know the one.... the person in the army who actually copied the emails and stuff and gave it to assange to post up.
So it's just Assange BS people so he doesn't end up in sweden, that's all it is.
Or more likely it being true is rather low.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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18. August 2012 @ 15:47 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by xtago:
He hasn't been charged probably because Swedish law needs him to be in the country to be questioned.
Laws are different in every country.
The odd thing is, he fled to the UK from Sweden and now that he's attempted 10 to 20 times in UK courts not to be sent to Sweden for the questioning about raping the women but failed to get that approved.
He's now trying to flee to another country that doesn't have Interpol connections and thus doesn't have to be sent to Sweden all seems a bit strange to me.
This is someone who's saying information has to be free and everything has to be known about everything but just not about him raping a couple of girls because that'd be bad or not wanted to be known.
For someone who's saying it was all consented to is pretty damn scared of being sent to jail for rape.
Forget about all the US BS, that's a side issue.
Oh as for the UK not being able to bust the doors down lol, they have already done it back in the 70's when some terrorists were holding a place to ransom.
Even if he did get into a bag the UK will just send up some fighters and force the plane or boat to land in the UK some where.
Just because he posted up leaked emails and stuff still doesn't make him above the law.
Mostly because the likely hood of it being true is rather low.
How would you know, it's a bit like MJ is he a pedafile or not many people do think he is one, if you talk to the staff they don't want to talk about it or know that him and a kid are in a room for many hours together with no one allowed in or out, but that doesn't always mean something happened or not.
It's all hearsay.
but hey maybe the women didn't like it or didn't want to have sex with him and have decided to goto the cops anyway, they can do that, whether he likes it or not.
bu much like MJ so far he's left Sweden when the cops where chasing him, now that the London cops are after him he suddenly wants to leave the UK too.
So the chances of it really being rape mustn't be that low after all, because if he could prove it wasn't rape then why is he running from the cops all of a sudden.
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Originally posted by xtago:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by xtago:
He hasn't been charged probably because Swedish law needs him to be in the country to be questioned.
Laws are different in every country.
The odd thing is, he fled to the UK from Sweden and now that he's attempted 10 to 20 times in UK courts not to be sent to Sweden for the questioning about raping the women but failed to get that approved.
He's now trying to flee to another country that doesn't have Interpol connections and thus doesn't have to be sent to Sweden all seems a bit strange to me.
This is someone who's saying information has to be free and everything has to be known about everything but just not about him raping a couple of girls because that'd be bad or not wanted to be known.
For someone who's saying it was all consented to is pretty damn scared of being sent to jail for rape.
Forget about all the US BS, that's a side issue.
Oh as for the UK not being able to bust the doors down lol, they have already done it back in the 70's when some terrorists were holding a place to ransom.
Even if he did get into a bag the UK will just send up some fighters and force the plane or boat to land in the UK some where.
Just because he posted up leaked emails and stuff still doesn't make him above the law.
Mostly because the likely hood of it being true is rather low.
How would you know, it's a bit like MJ is he a pedafile or not many people do think he is one, if you talk to the staff they don't want to talk about it or know that him and a kid are in a room for many hours together with no one allowed in or out, but that doesn't always mean something happened or not.
It's all hearsay.
but hey maybe the women didn't like it or didn't want to have sex with him and have decided to goto the cops anyway, they can do that, whether he likes it or not.
bu much like MJ so far he's left Sweden when the cops where chasing him, now that the London cops are after him he suddenly wants to leave the UK too.
So the chances of it really being rape mustn't be that low after all, because if he could prove it wasn't rape then why is he running from the cops all of a sudden.
Interpool, even most countries are not going to waste time exporting a possible raspiest.(unless there is a nice body count or raped over a few hundred women then hes not a possible raspiest). You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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19. August 2012 @ 03:24 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by xtago:
Originally posted by Owled:
Surely Assange WILL go to Sweden voluntarily to be tried, (for he had sex with consent and nothing to fear if honesty is applied), PROVIDED UK, Sweden and USA grant him a Non-Extradition Order. The order to cover him leaving UK, entering Sweden and being allowed to migrate to Ecuador freely, (if and when and after, he had his possible punishment in Sweden...)
But,
Hey he is not charged yet - not in Sweden, nor in the USA.
It seems Sweden, the UK and the USA do indeed have ulterior motives.....
FOR:
If they do NOT intend to follow what is feared by Assange (that he will be extradited to the US), then WHAT is there against granting him a Non-Extradition agreement?
So far Assange is right and Bravo to Ecuador!
Not charged but is a wanted person by the Swedish police for the questioning of raping 2 women.
For which he hasn't answered and has only ran away so far.
So far the US haven't charged him either and he's in the UK who could just send him to the US and could have done that many months ago he was in a house in London for a year so before spending 2 months with the Ecuador people, if the US wanted him to charge him they could have done it already.
Anyway the US already got the right person that was that bradley guy you know the one.... the person in the army who actually copied the emails and stuff and gave it to assange to post up.
So it's just Assange BS people so he doesn't end up in sweden, that's all it is.
Or more likely it being true is rather low.
SORRY!
But you guys BOTH miss the issue!
IF Sweden now want him to return - after 1st) NOT charging him, 2nd) NOT stopping him from leaving the country and 3rd) only make an issue, by demanding his return, when he is in the UK - THEN what stops SWEDEN from giving him the GUARANTEE that he will not be extradited to the USA or ANYWHERE else against his wish?
Can't you guys read? Give an answer to my WHAT question, or are you both purposely trying to bury my remarks with CRAP?
The ONLY - TRUE- question that remains is WHAT withholds the Swedes from NOT granting him his guarantee? All the other issues you and others bring forward have NO bearing on this actual case. (You are NOT the judge and you do NOT have all the facts! It is all hearsay, or Newspaper news (or manipulation?) from one side or the other).
THE issue is WHY THEY (UK and SWEDEN, and even the USA) do not want to give the only thing that matters - A GUARANTEE of NON-EXTRADITION).
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Originally posted by Owled:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by xtago:
Originally posted by Owled:
Surely Assange WILL go to Sweden voluntarily to be tried, (for he had sex with consent and nothing to fear if honesty is applied), PROVIDED UK, Sweden and USA grant him a Non-Extradition Order. The order to cover him leaving UK, entering Sweden and being allowed to migrate to Ecuador freely, (if and when and after, he had his possible punishment in Sweden...)
But,
Hey he is not charged yet - not in Sweden, nor in the USA.
It seems Sweden, the UK and the USA do indeed have ulterior motives.....
FOR:
If they do NOT intend to follow what is feared by Assange (that he will be extradited to the US), then WHAT is there against granting him a Non-Extradition agreement?
So far Assange is right and Bravo to Ecuador!
Not charged but is a wanted person by the Swedish police for the questioning of raping 2 women.
For which he hasn't answered and has only ran away so far.
So far the US haven't charged him either and he's in the UK who could just send him to the US and could have done that many months ago he was in a house in London for a year so before spending 2 months with the Ecuador people, if the US wanted him to charge him they could have done it already.
Anyway the US already got the right person that was that bradley guy you know the one.... the person in the army who actually copied the emails and stuff and gave it to assange to post up.
So it's just Assange BS people so he doesn't end up in sweden, that's all it is.
Or more likely it being true is rather low.
SORRY!
But you guys BOTH miss the issue!
IF Sweden now want him to return - after 1st) NOT charging him, 2nd) NOT stopping him from leaving the country and 3rd) only make an issue, by demanding his return, when he is in the UK - THEN what stops SWEDEN from giving him the GUARANTEE that he will not be extradited to the USA or ANYWHERE else against his wish?
Can't you guys read? Give an answer to my WHAT question, or are you both purposely trying to bury my remarks with CRAP?
The ONLY - TRUE- question that remains is WHAT withholds the Swedes from NOT granting him his guarantee? All the other issues you and others bring forward have NO bearing on this actual case. (You are NOT the judge and you do NOT have all the facts! It is all hearsay, or Newspaper news (or manipulation?) from one side or the other).
THE issue is WHY THEY (UK and SWEDEN, and even the USA) do not want to give the only thing that matters - A GUARANTEE of NON-EXTRADITION).
Not really ignoring you, you are just taking a very long and winded path across a mountain instead of walking 10 feet over to where you what to go.
Without the rape charges the Swedes can not get him, yes or no? Then if the Swedes can not get him neither can the US.
Its all about who can get him for further prosecution.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Now if these Rape Charges ARE fabricated?
THEN the ONLY question remaining is my Long and UNWINDING road!
The SOLE question is: Where is the Non-Extradition Guarantee? if "THEY" have nothing to hide!
Give me a well founded answer to THAT!
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Originally posted by Owled:
Now if these Rape Charges ARE fabricated?
THEN the ONLY question remaining is my Long and UNWINDING road!
The SOLE question is: Where is the Non-Extradition Guarantee? if "THEY" have nothing to hide!
Give me a well founded answer to THAT!
chances are they wont follow through with the rape charges.they will keep him in custody and extradite him as soon as they can.
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Exactly!
But IFF (Mathematically speaking) "THEY" are honest and sincere and try Assange for Rape only, THAN the Guarantee MUST come!
So far the guarantee is not offered, hence Assange's ONLY solution is the Embassy of Ecuador.
Where the book closes....,
with TWO culprits and NO final - for YOU to decide who is the "little" culprit - and for THEM (or us) to decide WHO should really be on trial!
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Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
Originally posted by Owled:
Now if these Rape Charges ARE fabricated?
THEN the ONLY question remaining is my Long and UNWINDING road!
The SOLE question is: Where is the Non-Extradition Guarantee? if "THEY" have nothing to hide!
Give me a well founded answer to THAT!
chances are they wont follow through with the rape charges.they will keep him in custody and extradite him as soon as they can.
Exactly!
But IFF (Mathematically speaking) "THEY" are honest and sincere and try Assange for Rape only, THAN the Guarantee MUST come!
So far the guarantee is not offered, hence Assange's ONLY solution is the Embassy of Ecuador.
Where the book closes....,
with TWO culprits and NO final - for YOU to decide who is the "little" culprit - and for THEM (or us) to decide WHO should really be on trial!
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Originally posted by Owled:
Now if these Rape Charges ARE fabricated?
THEN the ONLY question remaining is my Long and UNWINDING road!
The SOLE question is: Where is the Non-Extradition Guarantee? if "THEY" have nothing to hide!
Give me a well founded answer to THAT!
UUmmmm they have everything to hide and want to hand him over to the US...... how is this not very very very very obvious?
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by Owled:
Now if these Rape Charges ARE fabricated?
THEN the ONLY question remaining is my Long and UNWINDING road!
The SOLE question is: Where is the Non-Extradition Guarantee? if "THEY" have nothing to hide!
Give me a well founded answer to THAT!
UUmmmm they have everything to hide and want to hand him over to the US...... how is this not very very very very obvious?
And thus as Paul already prophesied in 1972, he had to run...
As Rosie of London double crossed him and is the talebearer!
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Originally posted by Owled:
Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
Originally posted by Owled:
Now if these Rape Charges ARE fabricated?
THEN the ONLY question remaining is my Long and UNWINDING road!
The SOLE question is: Where is the Non-Extradition Guarantee? if "THEY" have nothing to hide!
Give me a well founded answer to THAT!
UUmmmm they have everything to hide and want to hand him over to the US...... how is this not very very very very obvious?
And thus as Paul already prophesied in 1972, he had to run...
As Rosie of London double crossed him and is the talebearer!
see: www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/theroyaltenenbaums/meandjuliodownbytheschoolyard.htm
And here I thought I spoke all the jibberish here. ^_~!
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Originally posted by xtago:
He hasn't been charged probably because Swedish law needs him to be in the country to be questioned.
Actually they don't and the Swedish Police and legal authorities have a long history of travelling to other countries to interview & question 'special case' suspects.....funny how, despite many offers they have flatly refused to do so in this case.
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19. August 2012 @ 09:34 |
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Originally posted by Owled:
Now if these Rape Charges ARE fabricated?
THEN the ONLY question remaining is my Long and UNWINDING road!
The SOLE question is: Where is the Non-Extradition Guarantee? if "THEY" have nothing to hide!
Give me a well founded answer to THAT!
Excuse me but Why should Sweden make such a legal concoction? WhoTF is Asange to be entitled to such a thing?!? As far as Sweden is concerned Asange is simply a suspect in a rape investigation.
And don't give me that conspiracy crap about US out to get Asange. In Sweden of all places - we all know that ppl disappear every day in Sweden...
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Originally posted by DancingWD:
Originally posted by Owled:
Now if these Rape Charges ARE fabricated?
THEN the ONLY question remaining is my Long and UNWINDING road!
The SOLE question is: Where is the Non-Extradition Guarantee? if "THEY" have nothing to hide!
Give me a well founded answer to THAT!
Excuse me but Why should Sweden make such a legal concoction? WhoTF is Asange to be entitled to such a thing?!? As far as Sweden is concerned Asange is simply a suspect in a rape investigation.
And don't give me that conspiracy crap about US out to get Asange. In Sweden of all places - we all know that ppl disappear every day in Sweden...
whoo hoo,they gonna be all over you on this one.well,at risk of being called an idiot sheep again,i totally agree here.if you all need a "cause celebe",you could have picked a better one than this.and to further fuel this idiot debate i will say that the moron should be handed over to the us.like was said in an earlier post,some things should be done in secrecy.just how would some of you bleeding hearts feel if someone serving in a foreign country lost their life as a result of his leaked info?again,he is not a freaking martyr.he is not a hero,and he sure isnt worth the time and arguement ive seen here.as for being an idiot sheep,i would rather be that than some loony conspiracy theorist.fire away folks,this is the last time i waste my time in this pointless,winnerless,debate.
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
1) By both international and the individual countries' involved (US, UK, Sweden, Ecuador) laws, embassies *are NOT* subject to the laws of the territories they reside in; they are small bits of another sovereign nation.
2) Julian Assange *has NOT* actually been charged with any crime. Furthermore, one of his accusers has retracted her initial statment, saying she was pressured into it by the other woman "out of spite".
3) The US damn well wants Assange's ass, for exposing all sorts of underhanded chicanery on our part. It's been conveniently ignored by all of the official parties, that many of the documents exposed by WikiLeaks show malfeasance on a rather large scale, that violates both US and international law.
So, it's OK to extradite someone for "questioning", eh? How come they refused to "question" Assange in the Ecuadorian embassy..? Well? What question couldn't be answered there, as well as it could be answered in Sweden?!
This is all a rather transparent ploy to smear Assange, nothing more, and get him into US clutches, so he can be effectively silenced.
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Originally posted by aldan:
Originally posted by DancingWD:
Originally posted by Owled:
Now if these Rape Charges ARE fabricated?
THEN the ONLY question remaining is my Long and UNWINDING road!
The SOLE question is: Where is the Non-Extradition Guarantee? if "THEY" have nothing to hide!
Give me a well founded answer to THAT!
Excuse me but Why should Sweden make such a legal concoction? WhoTF is Asange to be entitled to such a thing?!? As far as Sweden is concerned Asange is simply a suspect in a rape investigation.
And don't give me that conspiracy crap about US out to get Asange. In Sweden of all places - we all know that ppl disappear every day in Sweden...
whoo hoo,they gonna be all over you on this one.well,at risk of being called an idiot sheep again,i totally agree here.if you all need a "cause celebe",you could have picked a better one than this.and to further fuel this idiot debate i will say that the moron should be handed over to the us.like was said in an earlier post,some things should be done in secrecy.just how would some of you bleeding hearts feel if someone serving in a foreign country lost their life as a result of his leaked info?again,he is not a freaking martyr.he is not a hero,and he sure isnt worth the time and arguement ive seen here.as for being an idiot sheep,i would rather be that than some loony conspiracy theorist.fire away folks,this is the last time i waste my time in this pointless,winnerless,debate.
I am fine with that, as corruption will take more lives and cause more strife without risky leaks to balance the sausage making machine some.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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