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Apple shows fear, trash talks Android day before Galaxy S IV launch
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article published on 13 March, 2013
Less than 24 hours before the company unveils the most-anticipated phone of the year, Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing Phil Schiller went on the defensive, attacking Samsung and Android in general.
The exec called Android "fragmented" and says Apple's research shows that four times as many iPhone users have switched over from Android as have switched from iPhone to Android.
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14. March 2013 @ 21:51 |
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Originally posted by nintenut:
This is either hilarious or very, very sad. Just like their fanbase, or all those times I had an iPod fail on me just outside of warranty (six: four fifth gen, two sixth).
You must have been holding it wrong
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15. March 2013 @ 00:52 |
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Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by nintenut:
This is either hilarious or very, very sad. Just like their fanbase, or all those times I had an iPod fail on me just outside of warranty (six: four fifth gen, two sixth).
You must have been holding it wrong
Please do enlighten me on the correct way to hold an iPod. :P
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15. March 2013 @ 07:39 |
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"You know, it seems that quotes on the internet are becoming less and less reliable." -Abraham Lincoln.
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15. March 2013 @ 08:01 |
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Originally posted by nintenut:
Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by nintenut:
This is either hilarious or very, very sad. Just like their fanbase, or all those times I had an iPod fail on me just outside of warranty (six: four fifth gen, two sixth).
You must have been holding it wrong
Please do enlighten me on the correct way to hold an iPod. :P
I was just teasing because that is what Apple said about the iPhone 4 when it had reception problems. They said people were holding the phone wrong
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15. March 2013 @ 11:09 |
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Originally posted by megadunderhead:
Actually i have both a iPad and a android and what is fueling android piracy why pay for a game when you can download it and install it via micro sd card for free theres no security which makes for a bad idea i want my data secure than you very much
Unless you have long commutes AND lots of free time on hand how do you manage to play games on the phones? May be like all those texters - while driving !
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15. March 2013 @ 11:13 |
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Originally posted by Burnasty:
I like samsung but really wish the nexus 4 was available on cdma networks more than i wish for an gs4
I have seen Lenovo phones sporting dual sims, CDMA and GSM capability with Android 4.x.x OS. This too just around US$ 300/=
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15. March 2013 @ 11:21 |
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Originally posted by xtago:
Originally posted by Interestx:
The thing is, they are now so ludicrously adrift on price with Android's huge range of pricing that they are painting themselves into a corner.
Android is available on cheap phones & expensive phones, ditto tablets.
Apple just does expensive.
I've tried both.
Apple just isn't worth the extra coin in my view.
It's a slick OS and the easy integration across products is nice.
But it's 2013 now and Android devices can do the same thing at a fraction of the cost.
I'd also be inclined to bet the house that within 5yrs the Microsoft Windows efforts will be looking strong in the market too.
...and talking BS (the 9 accounts lie) does nothing but make them look very weak & afraid for their market position.
Agree with the price but the upper end of the android phones will be the same price or slightly higher than an Iphone even the ihpone 5 but the android phones will have heaps of things and be much faster.
as for apple and everything just works I wouldn't agree with that, if your trying to get stuff working from apple on a pc then your stuffed every way and need extra programs to make things work, even their own software even on a mac doesn't allow for easy multi accounts to be handled via 1 computer.
I've had to fix up that problem a heap of times now.
I agree. Recently I had a visitor from US, using iPad and Skype to communicate with family in the US. She had some problems with the username and password which I was elected to fix. I managed the basic problem but it simply would not allow me to upgrade the application nor would it allow me to search for and add a contact. Both these options were missing and the OS would/could not do the application upgrade on its own. Did not even offer the upgrade!
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15. March 2013 @ 12:28 |
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...says Apple's research shows that four times as many iPhone users have switched over from Android as have switched from iPhone to Android.
I find that hard to believe. Also, that coupled with the "nine accounts" statement which everybody who uses Android would know was BS makes me think he is preaching to the Apple fanbase trying to prevent a flood out the door.
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15. March 2013 @ 12:36 |
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I'm pro-choice and pro-saving money. The more options the better which translates to saving money and more capabilities. Android is far superior to anything right now, esp to iOS regarding having more freedom. Removable battery, external microSD (not all Android phones offer them, but most do), open file structure and media library (not locked down like iOS), multiple choices of app stores and ability to install apps from anywhere, practically free cloud music service (Google Music), infinite customizations from keyboard (no Apple doesn't have the best keyboard. Swiftkey is one example that's way superior) to launcher. All in all, Apple's primary motivation to lock a user in their ecosystem to milk him bothers me the most.
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15. March 2013 @ 12:52 |
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Where do I even begin to undermine Schiller?
I suppose I'll start with this sentiment:
Originally posted by Sh1thead Schiller:
"When you take an Android device out of the box, you have to sign up to nine accounts with different vendors to get the experience iOS comes with. They don't work seamlessly together."
First off, an iPhone out of box is nowhere near as handy as any similarly-priced Android device. My last phone was an entry-level Android device, the LG Optimus S, and my current phone is an iPhone 4. Aside from higher-spec hardware, I essentially downgraded! I actually had to jailbreak the iPhone 4 to achieve the upgrade. It's for that reason alone that I can never recommend an iPhone out-of-box, unless the user is willing to jailbreak it.
As far as signing up to a dillion accounts to get the "experience iOS comes with", which is absolutely false by the way, I, as well as a dillion other usrs, only needed to sync my pre-existing Google account and all was well. For new users, ONE Google account is all that's necessary. If you want a YouTube account, you sign in with your Google account and they take care of the rest. I would know, I've set up my parents' Android devices with Google and YouTube accounts just one month ago. And those accounts are completely optional, just like on iOS.
Originally posted by Sh1thead Schiller:
"Android is often given as a free replacement for a feature phone and the experience isn't as good as an iPhone."
I refer to my above paragraphs.
Originally posted by Sh1t-eater-Schiller:
..and says Apple's research shows that four times as many iPhone users have switched over from Android as have switched from iPhone to Android.
Well that's not biased.
Originally posted by Sh1t-stain-Schiller:
The exec called Android "fragmented"
This is about the only claim he has made that actually contains some truth to it. There are apps on Android that simply don't work on other devices. However, the same is also true with the iPhone, although it's usually with older iDevices that some apps aren't supported, if I recall correctly.
Aside from that, everything Schiller went on about is nothing more than noise. A high-pitched scream from the bully that's losing. Nothing more, nothing less.
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15. March 2013 @ 12:57 |
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Apple shows fear, trash talks Android day before Galaxy S IV launch
I think Andre's headliner sums it up pretty well.
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15. March 2013 @ 13:00 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
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Apple shows fear, trash talks Android day before Galaxy S IV launch
I think Andre's headliner sums it up pretty well.
Well, it is the truth xD.
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15. March 2013 @ 13:07 |
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Originally posted by Ofnir1:
Originally posted by Jemborg:
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Apple shows fear, trash talks Android day before Galaxy S IV launch
I think Andre's headliner sums it up pretty well.
Well, it is the truth xD.
It's comical isn't it? :D
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15. March 2013 @ 13:22 |
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"Everything just works on Apple" is for people who have low standards or follow Apple's stupid ways of doing things to the letter. Try copying a video to your iphone. You have to go to the specific PC that's sync'd to your iphone, import the video file into iTune, make sure you check sync video to your iphone. With an Android phone, I plug the phone to the PC or email the video file or transfer the video file by Wifi Direct and/or NFC if the video is on another Android phone, done. Does iphone sound like a dinosaur or what?
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15. March 2013 @ 14:21 |
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After happily owning an iPhone for 3 years, I switched to Android and my eyes were opened to how much better it is and how much more it can do. Does it require a little more effort to set up? Yes. But that's only because it offers so much more choice and options.
My wife just got an iPhone 5, and it feels like an antique.
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15. March 2013 @ 15:34 |
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The headline changed lol, yes!
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15. March 2013 @ 16:59 |
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Originally posted by dEwMe:
Funny thing is obviously they are worried. If Apple was such a great empire with nothing to worry about he wouldn't have said a thing! Like em or Apple, Android is here to stay and is a force to be reckoned with!
Still if Grandma needs a phone that just works and is easy for her to use Apple is a great option!
If Grandma can see the tiny iPhone screen.
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15. March 2013 @ 16:59 |
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Originally posted by toecheese:
After happily owning an iPhone for 3 years, I switched to Android and my eyes were opened to how much better it is and how much more it can do. Does it require a little more effort to set up? Yes. But that's only because it offers so much more choice and options.
My wife just got an iPhone 5, and it feels like an antique.
It IS an antique. But the brainless iSheep are too dumb to see it.
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15. March 2013 @ 17:05 |
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Originally posted by guy8689:
Originally posted by bobiroc:
The more things change the more they stay the same. Apple is a bully that will slander and name call on top of their stealing and lying to get ahead. The iSheep eat this crap up too.
Your argument became invalid as soon as you wrote "iSheep".
Why? What are the brainless crApple sycophants who automatically buy whatever crappy product crApple produces except "iSheep"?
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15. March 2013 @ 17:34 |
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Originally posted by bobiroc:
I was just teasing because that is what Apple said about the iPhone 4 when it had reception problems. They said people were holding the phone wrong
Originally posted by dali:
Nintenut, it's just a joke (and a very good one, I think, lol), related to this:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/appl...ure-holding-th/
BTW, if you had so many iPods that crashed... Why still buying? You fanboy...! (Just kidding again ;))
Ah, of course; I'd nearly forgotten that little fiasco.
As for the number of iPods I've owned: I was young, stupid, and living in a pre-Zune world. 'Course, now that we're living in a post-Zune world I'm worried as to where I'll have to turn when the lovely little thing gives up the ghost.
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15. March 2013 @ 18:06 |
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Originally posted by toecheese:
After happily owning an iPhone for 3 years, I switched to Android and my eyes were opened to how much better it is and how much more it can do. Does it require a little more effort to set up? Yes. But that's only because it offers so much more choice and options.
My wife just got an iPhone 5, and it feels like an antique.
That's the thing about Apple: They're on their 5th generation of iPhone running iOS 6.1.2, and aside from the inclusion of the notification drop-down that Google included light years ahead of them, it's still the same. It's 2013 and their iPhone 5 out-of-box is more regressive than polygamy!
About the only reason to ever own an iPhone in 2013 is for iTunes U, in my opinion. But then again, if you can get it on the iPod Touch, why bother with the iPhone altogether? The only reason I have an iPhone 4 is because I switch platforms on every upgrade and I missed the Mega Man winterboard theme. I also missed the near full screen album artwork when at lock-screen, and the music organization, but in 2 years time, there will be something better.
And I have a sneaky suspicion that it will be on a platform other than iOS.
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15. March 2013 @ 18:25 |
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I'd also like to add, that an overwhelming sized chunk of interest I have in the iPhone 4, and we're talking about a 90% chunk here (not making that figure up), can be attributed to the jailbreak teams, Saurik of Cydia, Ryan Petrich, Big Boss tweaks, pretty much anyone that has made iOS more of an open platform and the devs for jailbroken-only iPhones. And it would not be surprising in the slightest if they are the reason for a sizable portion of remaining interest in the iPhone brand altogether.
We're still awaiting Apple's show of appreciation for these jailbreak teams retaining their market share :P
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15. March 2013 @ 23:17 |
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...As expected, the phone has a 5-inch 1080p super AMOLED display with 441ppi...
Well that cracks it. The iPhone Retina screen was a big deal but with this... coupled with a removable bettery that you can swap, I assume, with a charged one...
On the grandma comment... my mother-in-law (my son's grandma) is eyeing off the Galaxy Note II... and that's without me having even mentioned the thing! So it's become, "even your grandma's not interested in an iPhone", hahaha. Poor Apple ;_;
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18. March 2013 @ 20:45 |
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the Xperia z looks like the phone to own to me.
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19. March 2013 @ 08:28 |
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Originally posted by brockie:
the Xperia z looks like the phone to own to me.
Why?
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