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Amazon takes down Facebook poll after PS4 destroys Xbox One

article published on 16 June, 2013

On June 13th, Amazon put a poll up on their Video Games division's Facebook page asking consumers one simple question; Do you prefer the PlayStation 4 or the Xbox One. Three days and over 40,000 votes later, the etailing giant has taken down the poll prematurely, as it was set to run until June 20th. The PS4 absolutely demolished the Xbox One, with 38,984 votes for the Sony console ... [ read the full article ]

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16. June 2013 @ 23:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It appears the proverbial "writing is on the wall".
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16. June 2013 @ 23:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm starting to think Bill Gates is behind all of this, just so he could return like a Messiah to save the company in true Jobs fashion.

I'll stick my foot up your ass.
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17. June 2013 @ 02:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
 friend of mine excitedly said the ps4 is almost too good to be true sometime later that left me with a bad feeling Sony said everything that gamers wanted to hear and not one thing they didn't not want ok the + thing but you knew that was coming I'm going to wait 6 month ot a year for the other shoe to drop before I get mine
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17. June 2013 @ 02:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just remember what Sony did with the PS3. Do not think it will be different with the PS4.
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17. June 2013 @ 03:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@manitoba...Oh give me a BREAK! Yes Sony has screwed over consumers in the past and so has Microsoft, but I think Sony has learned their lesson this time around.

And one OTHER THING...those numbers do not lie about how people are feeling about this DRM crap Microsoft is trying to push off on their customers.

If things stay as they are, Microsoft could get demolished in sales and it would be their fault for doing it!

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Just remember what Sony did with the PS3. Do not think it will be different with the PS4.

Just remember what Anonymous did after, we do not forget.
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17. June 2013 @ 08:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
mmm, I think those votes for the Xbox One came from Microsoft staff.

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17. June 2013 @ 08:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hahahaha
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17. June 2013 @ 11:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by joebloe12:
@manitoba...Oh give me a BREAK! Yes Sony has screwed over consumers in the past and so has Microsoft, but I think Sony has learned their lesson this time around.

And one OTHER THING...those numbers do not lie about how people are feeling about this DRM crap Microsoft is trying to push off on their customers.

If things stay as they are, Microsoft could get demolished in sales and it would be their fault for doing it!
Sony is going to slip that DRM in your drink as soon as you're not looking and don't count on that backwards compatibility either they said its rolling out in 2014 as soon as you forget or no longer care its one less feature they have to give to you the only lesson they've learned is how to make people forget what they done in the past DRM coming to a PS4 near you 2014 update
I'm not trying to tell you to buy one gaming system over another who am I to tell you how to spend your money but I know this the DRM is coming because the developers want it

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17. June 2013 @ 12:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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don't count on that backwards compatibility either they said its rolling out in 2014 as soon as you forget or no longer care its one less feature they have to give to you
Although true in some ways, your mistaken on one here: Sony never said backwards compatibility was coming for the PS4, they simply can not do it for PS4 and that has been their stance all along. They said you can play previous generation of PS titles over Gakai when it becomes active in 2014: not the same thing. Your comment insinuates hardware level function which Sony never agreed existed, what Sony was talking about is Cloud service, which is more possible to become into fruition considering they bought Gakai's servers, likely to compete with MS.

However where you stand absolutely correct is Sony is a company that when they feel a service isn't working or not wanted by the majority, they'll remove it. They also attempt to slip DRM whenever feasible as if these companies need to keep testing that water in hopes one day consumers will simply just give up the fight.
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17. June 2013 @ 18:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I hope this will make Microsoft see that you should make a system for your consumers and not against them. I enjoy my 360, but I want the right to play a rented game if I so choose to. I don't think I will be getting the "One" unless they change their restrictions.
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17. June 2013 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mrmars:
Originally posted by joebloe12:
@manitoba...Oh give me a BREAK! Yes Sony has screwed over consumers in the past and so has Microsoft, but I think Sony has learned their lesson this time around.

And one OTHER THING...those numbers do not lie about how people are feeling about this DRM crap Microsoft is trying to push off on their customers.

If things stay as they are, Microsoft could get demolished in sales and it would be their fault for doing it!
Sony is going to slip that DRM in your drink as soon as you're not looking and don't count on that backwards compatibility either they said its rolling out in 2014 as soon as you forget or no longer care its one less feature they have to give to you the only lesson they've learned is how to make people forget what they done in the past DRM coming to a PS4 near you 2014 update
I'm not trying to tell you to buy one gaming system over another who am I to tell you how to spend your money but I know this the DRM is coming because the developers want it
Again I never said Sony was pure or that they never tried to screw over their customers, but if you think buying an xbox one is smart, then I feel sorry for you.

You can buy one if you want, but I will not be buying one...I can tell you that!


http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.c...stroys_xbox_one
And you seem to ignore the results of the poll above...you know...the amazon poll where Microshaft got tromped.

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17. June 2013 @ 23:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The old skeletons in their closet will come out eventually.
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this was not attack on you please don't take it that way the only part of your statement I disagreed with what's the fact that Sony has learned it's lesson the last time Sony did something dirty to gamers wasn't the first time and the next time won't be the last I just find that we consumers tend to give corporations a pass we have short memories and I'm guilty of it too I was ready to get my PS4 pre order until a friend of mine asked me if I've seen the ps4 conference excitingly said it was too good to be true he got everything he wanted except for the Next uncharted
game and that's when I started to feel like I was being played we are getting too much of what we want way too much I'm sure you could see why I'm worried

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Ran out of mental breath reading above post...PLEASE USE PERIODS!!!

I do agree that Sony's offering seems almost too good to be true. I keep waiting for the next foot to drop, but it's possible that they've learned from their mistakes. At this point, Sony would really have to f*** up to match the SpyBox debacle.
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game and that's when I started to feel like I was being played we are getting too much of what we want way too much I'm sure you could see why I'm worried
I myself look at it this way: for everything you do in life no matter what it is, there is always risk and there is always reward, (both positive and negative). PS3 did have some major hurdles and Sony screwed up bad enough to be hacked over and over and over throughout all divisions of their company. It nearly crippled them from coming back at all.

Sony took their sweet time telling us they were compromised, then blamed it on the community, then kept PSN off for over a month with numerous down times afterward, as far as I know they never found out who stole their data to begin with, and then have been suffering since. They screwed us and got screwed in return, sound like karma? Maybe, but consumers won't stand to be bullied or left in the dark.

Now that was back in what, 2010, 11? Sony has rehashed PS+ to give us a free title damn near every week since to those who trusted Sony enough to warrant a purchase and stick with them. They practically gave away music unlimited for free, and have been sending out as much positive vibes they can regarding the PS4.

Along comes MS, they been hacked too, hey had downtimes as well; but they never kept the consumers in the dark about it as long as Sony has. Nonetheless MS is in it to own the living room, every living room and always has. They never put you first, they put themselves first, and that arrogance had shrouded ever since Windows first desktop was formed with grace in 3.1. You had a license to use their software then and today it's no surprise if you have actually agreed to an EULA or TOS that claims you are only licensing the hardware now. Even if not that dramatic, MS needs and wants to continue to make $; their issue was trying to find the right balance to please publishers as well as consumers. They are so blind by pleasing publishers first, they forgotten who moves their products. They added quite amount of restrictions to Xbox One where Sony lifted restrictions in PS4. One catered to consumers, the other publishers.

Publishers siding with MS believe there is too much risk to develop for Sony's PS4 due to how open it is: they worry their products will be pirated again, or they worry Sony's take on pricing for their own products will set the bar on how much a consumer is willing to pay rather than believing in their own product enough to show us value to pay more. Consumers are siding with PS4 over Xbox One because they believe the Xbox risks outweigh the reward because there are too many things to consider. Limits on Used Game trading, kinect always on and capable of spying, always-on net connection: in many ways MS limited their global demographic solely on attempting to prevent piracy (a noble attempt sure, but one that hasn't proven to work in the past by any who has tried.).

In bold I wrote risk and reward, so that you can see for yourself, that although you can worry about Sony returning to their past stupidity all you want, while at the same time watching MS do worst. At the end of the day though, only you and you alone (regardless of who whines and calls you an MS fanboy and other names); only you can decide for yourself what risk you are willing to accept for the reward you will gain. Last for those of us who did accept Sony's story and are ordering a PS4, even should Sony turn on us: it takes nothing out of our lives to simply sell the console and games or toss it in the garbage at worst.

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How's a console allows you to play used game and doesn't require internet connectivity is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE?

Peace!
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18. June 2013 @ 21:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
so is multiplayer free on ps4?
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18. June 2013 @ 22:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
PSN has always supported free multiplayer. Even I know that, and I haven't owned a console since the PS1 ^^' ...
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18. June 2013 @ 23:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Mrmars:
Originally posted by joebloe12:
@manitoba...Oh give me a BREAK! Yes Sony has screwed over consumers in the past and so has Microsoft, but I think Sony has learned their lesson this time around.

And one OTHER THING...those numbers do not lie about how people are feeling about this DRM crap Microsoft is trying to push off on their customers.

If things stay as they are, Microsoft could get demolished in sales and it would be their fault for doing it!
Sony is going to slip that DRM in your drink as soon as you're not looking and don't count on that backwards compatibility either they said its rolling out in 2014 as soon as you forget or no longer care its one less feature they have to give to you the only lesson they've learned is how to make people forget what they done in the past DRM coming to a PS4 near you 2014 update
I'm not trying to tell you to buy one gaming system over another who am I to tell you how to spend your money but I know this the DRM is coming because the developers want it
backwards compatibility isn't really an issue. Or at least it shouldn't be. Many people including myself will keep the PS3. I also still have my PS and PS2. So if I truly need to play games for those specific consoles I have no issue. I doubt the devs will push DRM as they've seen what could possibly happen to the SpyBoxOne. If the devs do start using DRM I'm sure people will start complaining and somewhat boycott it and it will change. If not the game will disappear and layoffs happen.

OH YES ... THERE WILL BE BLOOD.
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Originally posted by oneguy:
so is multiplayer free on ps4?
No, they said you need to have playstation plus in order to play online.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upDdeZ7Qhb8
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19. June 2013 @ 10:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by SAW_FIEND:
{snip}I also still have my PS and PS2. So if I truly need to play games for those specific consoles I have no issue.{/snip}

You really ought to try one of the PS1 emulators (either ePSXe or FPSe). They're VERY solid, and you can actually achieve better graphics and sound than the original PS1 was capable of.

Hell, I even have a PS1 emulator for my phone ^^' .
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Originally posted by Famouskid7:
Originally posted by oneguy:
so is multiplayer free on ps4?
No, they said you need to have playstation plus in order to play online.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upDdeZ7Qhb8
do you know if we keep our psn usernames or do me make new ones for the ps4?
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Originally posted by oneguy:
Originally posted by Famouskid7:
Originally posted by oneguy:
so is multiplayer free on ps4?
No, they said you need to have playstation plus in order to play online.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upDdeZ7Qhb8
do you know if we keep our psn usernames or do me make new ones for the ps4?
They will transfer over. The only thing is you would have to upgrade your account to playstation plus in order to play online multiplayer. Thats what I was told at E3.
 
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