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Report: Next Windows update to bring back Start menu
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 9 December, 2013
According to Paul Thurrott, Microsoft is planning to bring the entire Start Menu back with the next edition of Windows.
Codenamed "Threshold," Microsoft will supposedly bring back the Start menu, although it may only appear as an option for those that only keep desktop mode as their default.
For Windows 8.1, Microsoft brought back the Start button itself, but it is mostly cosmetic. ... [ read the full article ]
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elduderino
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10. December 2013 @ 09:15 |
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About damn time. You learn to appreciate that start menu.
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ddp
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10. December 2013 @ 14:13 |
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can't they do an update to do that for win8 & 8.1 or do they have to redo the entire windows just to do that?
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elduderino
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10. December 2013 @ 14:18 |
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Originally posted by ddp:
can't they do an update to do that for win8 & 8.1 or do they have to redo the entire windows just to do that?
Great point. It's all about $$$$$$$ though.
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10. December 2013 @ 15:24 |
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When I first read this I thought, "Great...they are bringing back the start menu on tuesday (with the NEXT UPDATE)"...but they are not doing it until Windows 9??? What a bunch of scammers.
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10. December 2013 @ 18:38 |
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I'm looking forward to all the sheeple coming out of the woodwork and crying out that Win9 should be "free" like Mavericks was - and not understanding why that won't be the case at all.
(That being based on the assumption that MS just don't make enough money w/o Windows or they would, as people have said, put this update into 8.1 rather than re-release it as a new OS version.)
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GryphB
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10. December 2013 @ 18:49 |
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It makes me wonder where they got the impression no one was using the start button.
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ddp
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10. December 2013 @ 19:12 |
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god knows but it was a major screwup not having it in win8 & 8.1.
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10. December 2013 @ 19:32 |
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SomeBozo
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10. December 2013 @ 21:23 |
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I'm thinking this touches on a very sensitive point for me, i.e. the windows User Interface (UI). I'm a software tester and need to change a lot of settings often... Xp did some, Vista more, Win 7 more and Win 8 made things really down right inconvenient. Settings and options in XP or earlier were very easily accessible in the programs i needed to use because i knew windows well. Down side grandma or casual users would struggle doing common tasks. Thus the new OS versions changed the UI in order to help the casual user (nice really), but at the expense of others that need to go in and out of window settings...
My suggestion is they need a system user UI and a layperson UI, or for that matter why not come up with a way in which windows itself could be skinned to customize and meet specific user needs... My alternative is i'll often write my own program do change settings in the registry or where ever myself, but a pain with i need to deal with lab machines without everything...
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ddp
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11. December 2013 @ 14:14 |
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core2kid, why pay $5 when can get off the net for free like i did?
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11. December 2013 @ 19:03 |
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The way I see it:
W-8 need a lot of push $ to be accepted.
It's another Vista?!
lol.
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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SomeBozo
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11. December 2013 @ 19:11 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
The way I see it:
W-8 need a lot of push $ to be accepted.
It's another Vista?!
lol.
I might disagree that money, marketing and advertizing is the way to make win8 and the metro interface accepted. I might disagree that Win8 is another Vista, you're being too generous :) I think it is more like another Bob :)
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11. December 2013 @ 19:30 |
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Agree:
I use Vista, here and there, is no "So bad" like many say.
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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SomeBozo
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11. December 2013 @ 19:37 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Yup.
I like Vista, still using it here and there.
Yep that is the reason i think Win8 would be closer to Bob then Vista. I still remember being in meeting where Billg said Bob was the worse mistake they ever made...
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11. December 2013 @ 21:52 |
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I hope they try harder to support older apps....
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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megadunderhead
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11. December 2013 @ 21:56 |
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Boooo!!!
Still microsoft needs to lower the price and make it compatible with all processors
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11. December 2013 @ 22:48 |
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I disagree with most of you.
It's true that Start8 brings most of those Start button functions back (I thought it was a paid for only prog tho), but it can all be done in Explorer (and always has) and the new UI, it's just a pain for many to (re-)learn how and it's not as intuitive. I myself got used to it pretty quick on the pooters I was working on. I don't hate it or love it.
Unlike Vista which I dislike immensely essentially because of it's speed. Yes, I still find it slow. Win8 is not slow so to call it worse than Vista I find utterly hilarious.
Its a lot easier being righteous than right.
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SomeBozo
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12. December 2013 @ 00:19 |
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Originally posted by ZippyDSM:
I hope they try harder to support older apps....
I doubt they will, i bet they will be more proactive to not support backwards compatibility. The reason I believe is this, when newer version of office came out, the single biggest competitor to the newer office versions was the office 97 and no one wanted to upgrade, thus M$ took steps to make the file formats incompatible.
The bottom line as I see it M$ will take more steps to make things incompatible in order to force you to the newer stuff.
Don't get me wrong I completely agree with you, I have a few tools that i wrote and works great from WinXp on until Win8. Fortunately, as i wrote it i still have the sources, make some changes and i'm off and running again.
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ddp
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12. December 2013 @ 00:28 |
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download & install the office compatibility pack from ms resolves the format issue. i install that on any computer that has office 2003 & below for that reason.
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12. December 2013 @ 15:56 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
I disagree with most of you.
Unlike Vista which I dislike immensely essentially because of it's speed. Yes, I still find it slow. Win8 is not slow so to call it worse than Vista I find utterly hilarious.
When I look at the W-8 squares-blocks it just send me all the way back to Kindergarten (Retro-play-games).
My best guess is that W-8 is more oriented for those "afraid" first time computer users.
M$ should just dump W-8 and bring W-9 with more progressive looks of the past OS'es ...then I will think about it.
Just saying.
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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12. December 2013 @ 22:04 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
When I look at the W-8 squares-blocks it just send me all the way back to Kindergarten (Retro-play-games).
My best guess is that W-8 is more oriented for those "afraid" first time computer users.
Fair enough but, as I said, I don't particularly find Win8 intuitive... just logical. Imo not really great for pooter virgins who don't know what to look for.
In contrast with yourself... a person I build a rig exclusively for gaming likes to use OblyTile to create tiles to launch games from the Start screen. It's a look he likes... a console look I suppose. My beef with the process is that he can run a "desktop" program, like a game, from the Start Screen but it returns him to the desktop after he closes it. This is incongruous and takes him out of that "feel", for want of a better word which I can't think of atm (you get what I mean), and he has to manually re-load the Start screen again and again.
What I mean to say is that he wants that "progressive looks of the past" you prefer firmly hidden in the background to have to deal with when only he has to. He just wants to see his fancy-pants game icons.
Also, I just want to add, Win8 is slightly better at gaming than Win7... I don't know what you can do about that.
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windows8migration
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13. December 2013 @ 06:56 |
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There are many tips using windows 8.1 like customizing the desktop,wallpaper and app sizes...many more.
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13. December 2013 @ 09:34 |
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Originally posted by Jemborg:
Originally posted by Mrguss:
When I look at the W-8 squares-blocks it just send me all the way back to Kindergarten (Retro-play-games).
My best guess is that W-8 is more oriented for those "afraid" first time computer users.
Fair enough but, as I said, I don't particularly find Win8 intuitive... just logical. Imo not really great for pooter virgins who don't know what to look for.
In contrast with yourself... a person I build a rig exclusively for gaming likes to use OblyTile to create tiles to launch games from the Start screen. It's a look he likes... a console look I suppose. My beef with the process is that he can run a "desktop" program, like a game, from the Start Screen but it returns him to the desktop after he closes it. This is incongruous and takes him out of that "feel", for want of a better word which I can't think of atm (you get what I mean), and he has to manually re-load the Start screen again and again.
What I mean to say is that he wants that "progressive looks of the past" you prefer firmly hidden in the background to have to deal with when only he has to. He just wants to see his fancy-pants game icons.
Also, I just want to add, Win8 is slightly better at gaming than Win7... I don't know what you can do about that.
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My 2 lints yes win8 preforms better but it its a pain to have to go through extra steps to customize it.
Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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Virgil_B
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13. December 2013 @ 12:06 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
Originally posted by Mrguss:
The way I see it:
W-8 need a lot of push $ to be accepted.
It's another Vista?!
lol.
I might disagree that money, marketing and advertizing is the way to make win8 and the metro interface accepted. I might disagree that Win8 is another Vista, you're being too generous :) I think it is more like another Bob :)
Wow! I had forgotten all about Bob.
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Virgil_B
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13. December 2013 @ 12:11 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Agree:
I use Vista, here and there, is no "So bad" like many say.
Vista was pretty terrible when it was first rolled out. Now after considerable patches and modifications it is a pretty stable operating system. Unfortunately, the damage had already been done making Vista a flop just like Windows ME.
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