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redsvt
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1. August 2004 @ 15:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok Guys-

Just spent the last three days using Shrink 3.2 and DVD Rebuilder with CCE Basic (Licensed).

I ripped the following-

LOTR-Return of the King
Dances with Wolves
Sopranos season 4 disc 2
HellBoy
Gladiator

I cannot see any difference in any of the discs ripped and encoded with both programs. The latest version of shrink is awesome. I compared scene for scene with the originals discs. I am blown away with shrink 3.2.

Anyone else have any views
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blimpe
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2. August 2004 @ 05:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
redsvt glad to hear your results, what quality settings did you use?
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2. August 2004 @ 06:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'd be curious to see some samples of your results. I have a hard time believing that the results could possibly be better with any transcoder than with CCE, but I'd love to be proven wrong ;)

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2. August 2004 @ 17:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
redsvt ... What I really don't understand with posts like this is the need for some to make the new Shrink out to be more than it really is. Yes, it is a good program, but it isn't equal to DVD-RB/CCE. If you dig into some of the threads on the different forums, and found out who helped develop the new Shrink, you would also find out that there is a unanimous agreement among them that DVD-RB/CCE is their program of choice for the movies you mentioned.

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I compared scene for scene with the originals discs.
Your whole story staggers the imagination a bit. 5 full-length movies? This is a 75 hour project over a 72 hour/3 day weekend! Did you ever eat or sleep? You're talking at least 9 hours of pre-processing for each DVD run through v3.2 and DVD-RB/CCE. This is 45 hours. Add to this another 3 hours minimum per film, which adds 45 hours (3 X 3 X 5), for a total of 75 hours!!! I worked on LOTR-Return this past weekend with v3.2, DVD2One, and RB-CCE. And, I am still evaluating the results on Monday.

Your post appears less than genuine, but on the off-chance that this "test" of yours was for real, here is a free image hosting site. I think that it would be good for you to share your results, and not just talk (speculate) about them:

http://photobucket.com/register.php

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3. August 2004 @ 08:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I´ve got great results with Shrink, the new version is very nice.

There´s no need to spend so much time with only one movie (when using the other program) coz you almost can´t tell the diference between them...
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3. August 2004 @ 09:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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There´s no need to spend so much time with only one movie (when using the other program) coz you almost can´t tell the diference between them...
I have to disagree with this statement. There may not be any point for you to spend the time to use DVD-RB, but there are plenty of reasons to use it. It's all a matter of priorities and how much difference you personally notice. One side effect of spending the amount of time I have encoding and testing is that I've trained my eyes to see problems that I might not have seen otherwise. As a result, I'm bothered by imperfections that most people might not even notice. DVD-RB also allows me to use AviSynth filters to clean up DVDs with poor quality transfers or noisy/dirty film sources. I also don't have an issue with the time involved because my encodes are usually run overnight on multiple PCs, allowing me to encode as many as 6-7 discs at while I sleep.

There's nothing wrong with your opinion (you're the expert on what you prefer obviously), and you'll certainly find plenty of people who share it, but the opposite opinion, that any quality difference is important, preferring DVD-RB (extra time or not) is equally valid.

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3. August 2004 @ 10:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
jugulator...

A lot of people don't start out wanting quality ... but after a number of backups it becomes important. Keep in mind also that the primary focus of the new Shrink was to improve quality ... so quality seems to be important to a lot of people.

It appears, however, that you haven't used the deep analysis feature of the new Shrink, because this is a 2-1/2 hr process...compared to 3-1/2 hrs for DVD-RB/CCE (PIV-2.6GHz). It is also possible that you backed up a DVD that didn't require much, if any, compression. If that is the case, this is a poor example for comparison. I also think that if you would be satisfied with the results of backing up something like LOTR-Return without deep analysis, you would be equally happy with just viewing a videotape...in which case quality has no bearing on what you like to watch ... and which also invalidates your opinion in this matter.

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