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Out of Memory Error when using both DVD Shrink and Decryptor
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walden
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4. August 2004 @ 21:56 |
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Hi, I'm a complete Newbie. Just bought my first DVD burner, LG DVD Dual Layer 4120B. With this I got Nero and installed as per the instructions.
I tried to copy a DVD but was told that it was encrypted so found your site on the web.
I downloaded both DVD Shrink and DVD Decryptor and tried again. Decryptor created a video ts file ok but I couldn't get sghrink to use it to burn a disc.
I tried Shrink with decryptor as per the guide and after about 4 minutes I get an error message saying out of memory. The disk drive has over 20 G of spare memory and I'm not running any other programs that i can think of that might be affecting it.
I trawled through the forum and found that maybe InCD might be causing some problems so uninstalled that.
I also have problems with burning audio CDs. It crashes the computer after 4 tracks.
I'm running out of available brain cells. Can anybody help? Please?
Regards Walden
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4. August 2004 @ 22:06 |
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Welcome Walden
Your cpmputer specs plaese
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walden
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5. August 2004 @ 00:27 |
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Hello,
I'm using a Dell latitude laptop, 30G hard disk, approx 20G spare, pentium 2, 128M RAM, Windows 98. I also have a 160G external Hard Disk drive but that is not connected during the transfer. Thought you might have some suggestions re it's possible use in solving this problem.
I'm a bit of a klutz at this so please ignore my obvious errors. Thanks for your help. Let me know if I've missed out something essential.
Regards Walden
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5. August 2004 @ 00:42 |
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do you get the error when ripping or burning. Is it an external burner. If so, do you have usb 1.1 or 2.0. Im thinking your computer is just not good enough to burn dvds.
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walden
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5. August 2004 @ 00:45 |
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I only get the error message when I'm burning. Ripping is OK. Slow but OK.
Sad computer for a sad character!
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karen2003
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5. August 2004 @ 04:48 |
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A couple of possiblities. First, with 128mb of RAM you are on the very, very low end of what's needed (in fact you may be under what's needed). I have 256mb of RAM and that's not very much either -- I can't imagine doing all my burns with half that. Video programs are memory hogs.
Second, do you regularly delete files off your computer completely by emptying your recycle bin? (I found out the hard way that I needed to do this as my hard drive space kept going down, down, down even when I deleted video files, which as you know take up a LOT of space.)
One other quick suggestion. Rip to an .iso file instead of a video_ts folder full of files, and then burn the .iso file with Decrypter (I assume you've been using Nero to burn; Decrypter only burns .iso files so you may have to re-rip). If that works, then maybe there's a problem with Nero on your system. (And BTW, if your computer hard drive is formatted FAT32, you'll have a hard time doing an .iso file since 4gb is the max on FAT32 drives and your .iso file would normally be larger than that.)
But my biggest suggestion would be to get more RAM ASAP!
Karen H.--Dell Optiplex GX240, P4 1.50ghz, 256mb RAM (yeah, I need more), Windows XP Pro w/SP1, 80gb c: drive (replaced the 20gb c: that crashed), 126gb i: drive, 124gb j: drive, 500gb external hard drive partitioned into k: and l: drives, Sony DDU1621/C1 DVD-ROM to rip/encode, Sony DRX-530UL to burn, new Sony DRX-840U to burn DL discs ... need a new computer to go with it!!
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brobear
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5. August 2004 @ 10:20 |
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I saw no mention of the CPU speed. If you're not running a minimum of 500MHz, stop now; the rest of this post is time I've wasted
Karen has some legitimate points. However the new 3.2 version of Shrink is set up to use a split ISO file setup if it works as predicted. I don't have a computer with the FAT32 file system to try it. So, Shrink is more friendly to the older operating system.
In your case that won't help. Running out of memory is going to happen irregardless of the program running. Your unit running out of memory recording a CD is proof. Either you have programing running in the background using up your memory or you have a problem of not enough memory. By the way, you need to be using at least the 98SE operating system.
You have only 2 options if you want to try to record DVD and with your PC, I wouldn't guarantee anything. You need to clear enough memory for the programs to work or add some memory period. As RAM is usually the cheapest and best upgrade for a PC, I'd say go for it. 128MB is pitifully small in today's programming if you have much at all on the system. I had a 350MHz P2 with 512MB RAM. It was good for recording CDs but I would never have tried DVD with it. The point being that RAM can help in some cases. Check with tech support.
First though follow Karen's advice and clear your memory if you haven't. Then make sure there are no other programs running at all, especially anything that can run in the background. The 20GB free HD space is sufficient. Don't let it drop below 12gb as long as you intend to record DVD.
What is the CPU speed on your computer?
There is one possibility I forgot to mention. You could be having problems with the processor. It may be time to have a tech take a look at your PC and give it a checkup.
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5. August 2004 @ 10:52 |
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You could also try burning at 1x (you computer might be able to handle that).
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walden
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6. August 2004 @ 14:38 |
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Thank you all for replying. You all came to the same basic conclusion: I need more RAM and a faster CPU. The issue now becomes slightly different, and not one for this forum, probably. Do I spend money on an aging but otherwise usuable system, or buy a new laptop with all the RAM and speed I need? Just out of curiosity, I have a couple of friends who have Apple Mac laptops. They rave about how great they are. Are they better suited to this kind of function?
Thanks again. I'll struggle on, trying all you suggest. I feel like the cyber equivalent of Mister Magoo... Walden
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6. August 2004 @ 16:07 |
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Hi,
I myself would put the $$ into a newer and faster laptop. In addition to smoother DVD burning you'll end up reaping a lot of benefits in your general computing experience as well.
I can't really comment on the Apple laptops, they're just too pretty for me :P
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walden
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6. August 2004 @ 18:31 |
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Hi again, one quick question....if this sounds really dumb, I apologise. My computer with all it's limitations does decrypt the entire disk. It takes about 55 minutes. If it can do that, would it not then be able to burn the disk as well? Does burning take up that much more RAM and processing speed?
I'll try burning at 1X and see how that goes.
Thanks Walden
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walden
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6. August 2004 @ 19:23 |
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Hi yet again,
I just tried decrypting a disk following the dvd decrypt guide and I get two files on my hdd. One is an ISO file, 3.8GB and the other is an MDS file, 4.6 KB. No dvd file. What's going on? I thought this was supposed to be fun! I know it will be in the end but right now....
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Gogui
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6. August 2004 @ 21:04 |
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Walden, I hope I can hep a bit, I am a Newby as well but just solved a proble and want to let you know my learnings.
I have 256 RAM and was almost out of memory, ripping with Decryptor is not the problem that is CPU and memory cheap, the difficult process is Shrinking (Both analysis and Decryptor) that is really CPU resources expensive, if you manage to analyze and shrink, I dont think you would have a problem burning, that does not consume a lot of resources either.
The MDS file is created because in Decryptor in the Menues you defined you want to created (I don´t know what is that for) but if you dont pay attention to it just handle the ISO file it works fine. But again with 126 RAM I seriously doubt you can complete the whole process.
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brobear
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7. August 2004 @ 01:39 |
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In Decrypter you chose ISO Read instead of Files. In that setting you get ISO and MDS. MDS is a setup file and nothing to mess with. When you delete files for cleanup, delete the corresponding MDS with the ISO. The ISO is the movie file. Shrink can use an ISO to burn. As I said, with your low resources, I don't know how anything will work. Use an RW disc for testing so you don't waste discs. Try burning the ISO at low speed to see what happens. Then try ripping in the file mode and see if that helps in the burn process. Shrink handles both type files easily.
ISO Write in Decrypter is the setting for using the program as a burner. A file not over 4464MB can be ripped an burned with Decrypter. It just can't shrink a file to fit a DVD-5 disc. That's where a transcoder comes in, like Shrink. However, remember normally Shrink rips for itself. In your case, use one step at a time and there it is an idea to use Decrypter.
I believe you said your ISO was 3.8 GB. With that you can use Decrypter in ISO Write mode to burn the file. Shrink is not needed as the file needs no shrinking. Or the Nero ROM could be used direct instead of through Shrink.
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brobear
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7. August 2004 @ 01:53 |
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Nephilim is right. At some point you have to give up on older units. If you are willing to sink money into a unit that is already obsolete, that is your choice. I myself have invested in older equipment to postpone a large expenditure, so I know the issues.
One thing to notice about buying a computer and choosing an Apple or not, how are you going to use it and how is the programing compatible with what you want to do. Apple has been more of a niche market in the past. The vast majority of computers on the market are AMD and Pentium type CPU units. There is a big advantage going with the majority. More things work for your PC. Talk to your friends, take that with a grain of salt, talk to a tech if you can for both sides, remember the bias, do some surfing on the net and looking through trades. Then make the decision you think is best for you. Your PC is a personal choice and in the end you have to make the decision, unless someone else is paying for it.
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Gogui
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7. August 2004 @ 19:06 |
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Just one watchout.
If your shrinking process is not complete and you are shrinking as example a 9 GB DVD, something that was happening to me was getting an ISO file samaller than expected. I was suppose to have a 4.4 GB ISO and the ones I was getting were sometimes 0 and sometimes something like 3.7 GB, when that happened to me when I tried to burn them into the DVD through Decryptor, this was not recognizing the ISO.
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walden
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7. August 2004 @ 23:09 |
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Success!!!!! I closed just about everything that wasn't essential and used only Decrypter. I set the speed to 1x but it actually wrote at 0.5x. Perfect, not a hitch. The decrypt took about 55 minutes and the burn approx 95 minutes. I did a test first and as that went OK I tried a burn. I have no idea how long these things take normally but it seems to be OK. There maybe flaws that I haven't found yet but at the moment I seem to have gotten away with burning a 4GB DVD with a 400mhz 128M FAT32 unit. For your info the Buffer was at 100%, Device buffer ranged from 11 to 100%. (Ihave no idea what either mean!) Happy Chappy. Thank you, thank you, thank you.... I can now see why so many people have been raving about these programs, and the support you give. I'll send a donation gratefully.
Regards Walden
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brobear
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8. August 2004 @ 01:37 |
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Our payment is in thanks. And a hearty 'you're welcome' is your change. Glad you got your copy.
Normally for a DVD-5, the task can be accomplished in about 20 minutes. Movies that need compressed are the ones that take longer.
Some of the developers rely on donations to keep things going. So if they ask, it is a good idea to donate if possible.
Sounds like you may run back into your problem if you have to use a transcoder with a larger movie. Choosing movie only could be a help.
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