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How to get swap magic disks to work on new PStwo , IN HERE!
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pcroxton
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11. December 2004 @ 21:58 |
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Here what I found on the net, there is a solution for the pstwo with SMD v3.3
a custom-molded plastic plug for the PSTwo rear lid sensor, and also a plastic switch clip for the front lid sensor... allowing users to play ALL of their LEGAL back-ups and Import games using the Swap Magic Discs with the simple flick of a switch!
here is the site that sell http://www.ps2fliptop.net/buy_magic_switch.htm
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pretense
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12. December 2004 @ 01:46 |
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I believe there are at least five different methods to use Swap Magic with the PStwo right now.
1) Tape mod, mentioned before.
2) Toggle switch mod, mentioned here: http://www.ps2nfo.com/pstwo.html
3) Straw mod, mentioned at the bottom of the Swap Magic page: http://www.swapmagic3.com/
4) Replacement PS2Lid, purchaseable here: http://www.ps2cover.com or here: http://www.linker4u.com
5) Plastic plug mod, which is basically the straw mod using custom-molded plastic plugs. May void warranty of PStwo because it requires breaking of tabs from original lid. Also can be bought here: http://www.clearxbox.com/site/pages/prods/pstwo_gc.html
It's rumored that there's a full-body replacement cover in the works which has a built-in lid sensor, too. Also, on the non-swap modchip side, a DMS4 E.Z.I. solderless chip (works by clip-on) should be available early next year; more info here: http://www.dms4.com
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RVC
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12. December 2004 @ 05:35 |
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Pretense but which one work better. The somebody try some of those method? Let me know which is the comment one.
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pretense
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12. December 2004 @ 06:12 |
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The tape/glue mod, which was the original method, is probably the least useful of them all. While it is extremely easy to do, and lots of people have had success with it, a lot of people have also ruined their PStwos this way (neither backups nor originals work any more), if anecdotal evidence is to be trusted.
Very few people use the toggle switch method, because it involves a very limited amount of soldering and some drilling of the case. However, I haven't heard of any problems arising from this method at all.
Haven't heard of too many people using the straw mod yet, but it should work fine provided you get the straw length correct. Even so, it doesn't really seem like a permanent solution given the flimsiness of the materials involved. For something more permanent, you would have to spend some money and opt for one of the commercial methods. But the PS2Lid and the plastic plug mod have not shipped yet, and hence haven't been tested by people outside of those selling them. On the modchip end, the DMS4 E.Z.I. seems to be very full-featured and easy to install, giving you the best of the modchip world without any of the hassle and danger of soldering; but you may still be risking the integrity of the laser unit: The PStwo slim is very, very prone to burnout of the laser unit, even in normal non-modded usage, which makes any electrical solution (modchipping) seem to be at least semi-risky, since it is so vulnerable to current overload.
Just from looking at them, I'd probably guess that the straw mod is the best temporary solution. The toggle, plug, and lid mods should work equally well as more permanent solutions. However, unlike the other two, the lid mod doesn't seem to make any alterations to the original hardware, other than replacement of the lid, so you should probably be able to return a defective unit (just put the old lid back). That's why I'd recommend it over the plastic plug mod myself. Otherwise, the plastic plug seems to be the cheapest, easiest, and best-looking mod: You won't see any real change to the external appearance of the console after doing it.
If you want to play it safe, though, you should probably wait until other people have gotten their lids/plugs and tried them out.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 12. December 2004 @ 06:16
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nofius
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12. December 2004 @ 21:10 |
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sorry to disrupt the dicussion with this question but i really want to know if anyone knows which version of the swap magic disc do i need to use if i bought my PSTwo in Hong Kong? There's the code "NTSC" but there's also a "J" next to it.
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cgeorgemo
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12. December 2004 @ 21:20 |
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Hey all 1st post!
I've read through the pages and pages of post about which method is best and what to avoid and mysterious laser failure and locked up systems. Man was it confusing......but not nearly confusing enough so I thought that I'd contribute to the general confusion.
I got my PS2 sensors to show closed using just a soda straw and a pair of scissors. I stated out to do the straw mod that I had seen posted at various sites and I got very frustrated because of the difficulty in getting the hinge sensor to stay pushed in. No matter what I tried switching the boot disk out and putting the backup seemed to jiggle the system just enough to screw that switch up.
Drastic measures were called for!!
I opened it up by pulling the 6 screws and prying the case open as the first page of this thread stated. I decided that I wasn't going to try to peel off the warranty sticker so I just used it as a hinge for the top and bottom and it came through unscathed, uncut and unwith no void printed on it.
Once I had it open I simply cut a piece of straw long enough to sit across the switch and be held in place by the screw tower (plastic tower that the screw goes into) and the little edge of metal to the right of the switch. It took a couple of tries to find the right length but once it is right it is easy.
You have to push the left edge of the straw under the chasis to the left of the switch and lay it across the screw hole where the tower meets the base. Place the straw across the switch then push the right hand side of the straw under the little metal lip to the right of the switch.
The straw will be held in place by the screw tower once we close the case and will not slip. I never bothered to re-install this particular screw but I did put the little cover back over the hole in the bottom of the case.
For the front switch I simply cut a short piece of straw and cut it so I had a tube of plastic which was slit down the side. I set it over the top of the switch like you put a saddle over the top of a fence. and the top of the case is holding it closed when the case is snapped back closed.
For the disc brake I cut another piece of straw and folded it in on itself so it was a thinner tube and put it in the hole to keep the brake out of the way.
All these mods took less than 5 minutes and they have been working for over a week now with no trouble. I can play games with the top open (for no apparent reason) but even better I can swap the disc without resorting to glue, tape, naked monkeys, or the little guy who turns off the refrigerator light eveytime I close the door.
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franzkics
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12. December 2004 @ 22:45 |
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Nice idea, also nice comment about the little guy who turns off the light in the frig...
Frantic
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pretense
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13. December 2004 @ 07:06 |
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NTSC-J means your console is the Japanese version. There are three flavors of Swap Magic discs, US(NTSC), JAP(NTSC), and PAL, so you need the Japanese version, nofius.
Good job, and have fun with your newly "modified" PStwo, cgeorgemo!
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RVC
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13. December 2004 @ 15:08 |
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I just got Swap Magic 3.3 today, and been thinking and to tell you the true I don't see myself put in and taken out pieces of straw every times me or my son want to play some games. So I been thinking about to get those Flip tops (you know more permanent solution). But how hard that can be, any would fit? The any body try so it can tell me how they work. And another question I been reading a lot problems with the laser on PSTwo on different forums, what you guys think about that? The Swap Magic put the laser on Risk?
PS-two w/Flip Top
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AussieZan
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13. December 2004 @ 16:33 |
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From the picture and description of the Flip Top it doesnt seem too difficult to remove the existing one and replacing it with the Flip Top. Since it hasnt been officially released yet who can really say. Just have to wait and see.
As for the laser problem, I think its more that the individual users use really scratched or damaged cds/dvds on the PS2 which just causes the laser to burn itself out. And so this can occur with a modded PS2 or one using Swap Magic. But this is all speculation on my part. I'm currenly using SM 3.3 without any hitches but then again I havent forced it to read any bad media yet.
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RVC
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13. December 2004 @ 16:45 |
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What you call good media or bad media?
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13. December 2004 @ 17:23 |
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good media would be something like:
verbatim
memorex
TDK
Ritek G03
Ritek G04
Ritek G05
bad media would something like:
princo
GQ (great quality) [that's what they say, but it actually sucks]
KHypermedia
etc...
u get the idea :)
Console: PS2 v7, 8MB Nyko MC, 32MB Max MC, 16MB Gameshark MC, Multitap, Sony Controller, Nyko Controller, AirFlow Controller
Chip: DMS4 E.Z.I. Pro, ToxicOS v0.41, 100GB HDD
Handheld: PSP Firmware v1.5, 32MB MS Pro Duo, 2GB MS Pro Duo
HomeBrew: DevHook v0.46 w/ GUI Mod & USB Mod, Firmware v2.71 Emulated
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Liam1080
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13. December 2004 @ 20:16 |
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is maxell media good?
Liam
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AussieZan
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13. December 2004 @ 20:36 |
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Bad media can either be poor quality cds/dvds used to burn onto, or scratch/damaged cds/dvds. In any case, it makes the PS2 work harder to read it.
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pretense
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13. December 2004 @ 23:17 |
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Poor burns or scratched discs will always place an additional burden on the laser unit, regardless of which version or even which console you have (Xbox/PS2/GC). But no, it is a known fact that the new PStwo really is a lot more prone to burnout; people have had their consoles fail in a matter of days despite running normal games on unmodded PStwos! Others have seen their consoles die after plugging in or uplugging their PStwos, which then refuse to power up. Of course, you can chalk this up to poor manufacturing or design, which is not altogether unexpected in early versions of a new console (or a radically new revision, like the PStwo SCPH-700xx).
The so-called "V12 Dead Syndrome" arises from the fact that, due to the compact nature of the PStwo, the laser and driving circuits are placed too closely together on the motherboard, causing them to become extremely sensitive to current spikes. The PStwo laser is additionally rather susceptible to overheating, from what I have heard.
Those of you with electrical engineering backgrounds can check out the technical documentation on the "Dead v12 Syndrome" of the PStwo LA6508 unit here: http://www.ripper3.com/v12_DEAD_BEEF_096.pdf
A fix involving the installation of a current limiter can be found here: http://vandrunen.net/gallery/PSTwo_vanDrunen_Fix
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RVC
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14. December 2004 @ 15:02 |
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It been somebody who burnout his PSTwo using Swap Magic & "good" media? (I'm not talking about glue issues)
PS-two w/Flip Top
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AussieZan
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14. December 2004 @ 19:43 |
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If there was any fix I would go by, it would be the Infinity fix as there are boards and also a 12C508 pic out that.
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kamarazow
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16. December 2004 @ 02:52 |
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Hey guys.
I am thinking about buying the new swap disks (3.3). For instantly i thought that i didn't need to fuck up / mod my Pstwo and just simply replacing the swap disks for mu japanese or american ps2 disks. I think I was to naive after i read something about the swap disks at this forum.
I'm from Holland so I have a PAL PStwo.
My questions are:
1.(first maybe stupid) Is there a need to trick your pstwo instead of just use your swap disks (i had a ps1 with a spring to trick my ps1)?
2. If you have to mod your PStwo, what is the best method? I've read something about different methods, but it wasn't very consistent.
3. Could you explain it very clear to me ( I am a mod n00b) and tell me where those 'sensors' are?
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dragulaAC
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16. December 2004 @ 04:06 |
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If you have a modchip installed you won't have to trick it, but if you use SwapMagic you do. The easiest way of doing this, to me, is to tape down the 2 sensors with small pieces of duct tape. If you do a decent job at taping, it'll be fine. Mine's been good for over a month now, never having to fix the tape job.
On the first page of this thread there is a post with links to pictures of everything you need to see.
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Liam1080
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16. December 2004 @ 06:40 |
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JUST USE TAPE NO GLUE
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epepper9
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17. December 2004 @ 23:34 |
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cgeorgemo, cool, that is great if you can carefully do a trick, and keep the warranty, better take the tape and/or straw if anything goes wrong, SONY would reject it if they knew you had opened it. Using the warranty label as a hinge would have been impossible on the original playstation 2, because of the reset/eject ribbon cable.
Other People,
As I got a PSTwo today, I want to know something. I can see the 2 tabs by pressing eject, can I just tape them without opening up the case???
I am talking about one toward the back, hit by a little point on the lid, and another very close to the power/reset button.
It looks easy, does any1 know if its possible?
Thanks
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franzkics
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18. December 2004 @ 05:47 |
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Actually, the two switches you have to worry about is located as follows 1. the switch just hehind the reset button - that's the easy on to access, it is very shallow. 2. the second one is right behind the warranty sticker seal ( looking from the back end ), this swich is actually impossible to see with out opening the case. Looking at the unit from the front end with the lid open, the left lid hinge - the one that look like a double hinge is the activating mechanism that presses on the switch when the lid is close. Of course you also have to disable the disc brake which is located near the right rear corner of the drive. The TABS you are talking about when pressing the lid realease button is just a locking tab to keep the lid close, it has no operating effect whatsoever.
Frantic
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jspencer
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19. December 2004 @ 07:50 |
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Hi
well all that cutting and sticking to make the swap magic work on the new slim line is ok. But there is now a new tool on the market called the slim tool.. better known as the Magic Slim Tool.
all the info is at http://www.techwizad.com
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19. December 2004 @ 09:30 |
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Hey whats up guys
I just want to say that this thread is getting pretty long and keep it up. If your lucky you might make it longer than one of the xbox threads which is about 910 posts and 40 pages.
Keep it up, T-spartan over and out.
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franzkics
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19. December 2004 @ 14:19 |
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So with this new slimtool - you are suppose to play the game while the lid is open ! Looking at it, it is impossible to close the lid while the tools are installed . Will somebody who have tried the tool please post ...whether or not the lid can be closed while the tool is installed ???
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