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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I love listening to music when I'm baked. Somehow it just seems more real, and you can really notice little details that would otherwise just be part of the noise.
I'm glad they're gonna try to legalize marijuana in California. That means other states will soon follow suit. It's a big issue here in Wisconsin. Last I heard, they're still working out the particulars in a lot of states before they try to pass any bills. I think it's already been perfectly legal in Alaska for years now.
Marijuana is not only less harmful than cigarettes, it's actually good for you in a lot of ways. I smoke weed 2-3 times a week and have never noticed any ill effects. And it's not like I don't have any, I just keep it to weekends and Friday nights so it doesn't interfere with my job.
I can admit that being high does affect how I function, but it doesn't incapacitate me like drinking or hardcore drugs. It's like I'm still functional, just slightly loopy and kind of vacant.
It's definitely a step in the right direction, but most states in the US still don't even allow it for medicinal use. I would say they would have to allow that before anything else, but who knows.
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Couple little things... Supposedly they are legalizing having upto an 1/8th on you in November here in Massachusetts (of course I heard that from a complete jackass so I highly doubt that rumor), But of course that does me no good as I get drug tested at work...
And the second thing is the tax increase of 1.25 a pack here in Mass yesterday. Brought a pack of Marbs from 5.62 to 7.09 after all taxes... That's a total increase of 1.47 due to sales tax... And they say its going towards Health Care etc... I doubt it, its going to replace all the money embezzeled in the Big Dig...
To offset the cost of the cig price increase the distributors are sending alot more Buy 1 Get 1 Free cartons, which are then stashed in the back and bought in mass quanities by the employees...
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Originally posted by engage16:
Couple little things... Supposedly they are legalizing having upto an 1/8th on you in November here in Massachusetts (of course I heard that from a complete jackass so I highly doubt that rumor), But of course that does me no good as I get drug tested at work...
Yea, it's like that in lots of states. Like in Colorado, you can have up to an ounce of pot on you, before they decide to take you to jail or give you a ticket. Hopefully all states will follow suite with this ASAP. Like I've said before, these harsh marijuana laws do more harm then the drug itself.
As for cigs, I don't smoke, but damn! Those prices are getting outrageous aren't they? Just imagine if the states would tax pot, how much money they would be racking in combined with the cigarette tax.
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It would be nice if up to an ounce were decriminalized. There are way too many people serving jail time just for possession. I myself got a paraphernalia charge last year. I f'd up good. I won't get caught again.
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3. July 2008 @ 12:29 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
It would be nice if up to an ounce were decriminalized. There are way too many people serving jail time just for possession. I myself got a paraphernalia charge last year. I f'd up good. I won't get caught again.
I received a fine for possession in Wisc. this year, it was alright, I did community service and NA. Didn't stop me, only wise(d) me up to the fact that I shouldn't smoke with stupid people.
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3. July 2008 @ 12:40 |
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Smoking weed while your about to be a dad in a country where it's still pretty illegal and will easily get you fired from a good job sounds like a bad idea to me.
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Here in the UK, drug-testing is practically non-existent especially in the work place, only companies like Michelin run drug-tests, because in a place where mainly hard labour jobs take place, it's only really in the interest of the safety of you and others around you, to ensure accidents don't happen, and it's a one-off test too, and they are pretty weak tests.
Saying that, I still agree that it should be decriminalized, to separate it from other hard drugs, I find that young people who use weed then go on to experiment with other drugs because they are under the impression that other drugs are as soft as weed is, and so decriminalizing it, would alienate dealers a bit more. It really is harmless when the two golden rules are exercised, moderation and self-control.
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I work at a Gulf Gas Station and had to take a drug test within 48 hours of being offered the job... Passed no problem as I don't smoke pot but am still subject to the possibility of random drug tests... You'd actually be quite surprised how many jobs out there have drug testings... Home Depot for instance...
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7. July 2008 @ 12:41 |
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Originally posted by engage16:
I work at a Gulf Gas Station and had to take a drug test within 48 hours of being offered the job... Passed no problem as I don't smoke pot but am still subject to the possibility of random drug tests... You'd actually be quite surprised how many jobs out there have drug testings... Home Depot for instance...
Well yea, LMFAO! Places like Home Depot require you to carry heavy loads or operate machinery. They don't want some newb stoner getting on a lifting machine and pressing the wrong button and killing someone when 500 pounds of lumber is dropped on someone. Not something I would do, because I am an avid smoker. After smoking for several years, day after day, a lot of things just become normal and makes work or anything else for that matter much more enjoyable.
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It really is harmless when the two golden rules are exercised, moderation and self-control.
LOL - moderation? Pot isn't like alcohol man, you can't smoke so much that you would kill someone when you got behind the wheel of a car. If I've ever smoked too much, getting in the car and driving somewhere is the last thing on my mind - LOL! Self control? Pot isn't addicting, why would you need self control?
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Put it this way. Those who get really stoned and make the decision to drive still have the chance to crash up. I can drive if I''m just buzzed, but if I'm ripped it's too hard to do. Less about moderation of use and more about common sense. I don't smoke weed and then go places right after.
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Put it this way. Those who get really stoned and make the decision to drive still have the chance to crash up. I can drive if I''m just buzzed, but if I'm ripped it's too hard to do. Less about moderation of use and more about common sense. I don't smoke weed and then go places right after.
Crash? How are you going to crash? You are perfectly aware of what's going on at all times and I bet you are OVERLY cautious when driving, am I right? Now alcohol is a different story. When you decide to drink a few beers or slam some shots and get real drunk - hell even buzzed - you feel like you are on top of the world and drive like you probably would never drive sober. I know this because I USE to be one of those people. With pot, you don't do those things. You stay in your lane and you are very cautious. True pot smokers out there know what I'm talking about.
I do it all the time, I've been smoking for about 11 years now. I smoke pot while on the way to a movie. The only way to watch a movie, eat a really good meal, or go kayaking is to do it stoned. Now I wouldn't recommend this to someone that has never smoked or is an occasional smoker. The only thing that would happen to someone that is a first time smoke, is they would become really paranoid and in that case, they probably aren't going to drive anyways.
There have been ZERO documented deaths in the WORLD due to smoking pot. Until then, everyone needs to stop slamming it. I have a book at the house with death statistics ranging from alcohol, suicide, cancer, smoking cigarettes, etc. I'll post those results tomorrow.
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Defend it all you want; far be it from me to tell someone what they can or cannot do to themselves. But don't pretend 1.) it's not addictive...all substances can be addictive, if not physically, then mentally; or 2.) the long term health effects are less than that of alcohol or tobacco. I've seen firsthand the damage done by people that would be "chainsmokers" or "alcoholics" if they were using different substances. It may not cause cancer as quickly or eat your liver, but it makes you soft between the ears. There are too many people that don't have the gray matter to spare for that kind of damage.
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Goodswipe: congratulations on moving your dependence from one substance to another. That painful ol' sober reality sure harshes your buzz, doesn't it? My God, how can anyone enjoy life when they can't taste the colors? -_-
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One more time, I don't have any problem with other people druggin' however they want, as long as no one else is hurt involuntarily. I don't use those substances, as it is my personal opinion that anyone who needs such a mind-altering substance to enjoy life is weak and is living a shell of a life. (Note: I used the word "needs." I want no backlash) But don't pretend that any substance is safer than any other. They can all become quite dangerous in the wrong situation.
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Originally posted by Auslander:
Defend it all you want; far be it from me to tell someone what they can or cannot do to themselves. But don't pretend 1.) it's not addictive...all substances can be addictive, if not physically, then mentally; or 2.) the long term health effects are less than that of alcohol or tobacco. I've seen firsthand the damage done by people that would be "chainsmokers" or "alcoholics" if they were using different substances. It may not cause cancer as quickly or eat your liver, but it makes you soft between the ears. There are too many people that don't have the gray matter to spare for that kind of damage.
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Goodswipe: congratulations on moving your dependence from one substance to another. That harsh ol' sober reality sure harshes your buzz, doesn't it? My God, how can anyone enjoy life when they can't taste the colors? -_-
I'm not pretending that it isn't addictive. What things in life that are fun and you find lots of enjoyment in doing aren't addictive? The only addicting thing about pot would be the mental part - thinking you need to smoke. Other then that, there's nothing wrong with it. And who said I was dependent on alcohol? All I said was that I use to drink and drive when I shouldn't have, I never said I was an alcoholic.
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the long term health effects are less than that of alcohol or tobacco. I've seen firsthand the damage done by people that would be "chainsmokers" or "alcoholics" if they were using different substances. It may not cause cancer as quickly or eat your liver, but it makes you soft between the ears.
Could you please clarify what you meant here?
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
Pot isn't addicting, why would you need self control?
That's my only response for your first paragraph.
As for the other bit, I meant that I've known people that used pot as much and for as long as a chainsmoker used cigarettes or and alcoholic consumed alcohol, and I've seen the damage that it has done to their minds.
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The fellow I work with at the desk next to me says that your asking for clarification has proved my point.
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Originally posted by Auslander:
Originally posted by goodswipe:
Pot isn't addicting, why would you need self control?
That's my only response for your first paragraph.
As for the other bit, I meant that I've known people that used pot as much and for as long as a chainsmoker used cigarettes or and alcoholic consumed alcohol, and I've seen the damage that it has done to their minds.
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The fellow I work with at the desk next to me says that your asking for clarification has proved my point.
I was asking for clarification because to me that didn't make much sense. I wasn't sure if you were referring to pot or not, that's all. And actually, I don't smoke pot out of a bong or papers but every once in awhile, I smoke out of a vaporizer. So I'm doing less damage to my lungs then you are by smoking cigarettes. And damage it's done to their minds? That's the most absurd thing I've heard all day! Those fella's must have been doing much worse things then pot.
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I never said that I "need" it to enjoy life, it just makes somethings more entertaining and enjoyable. Just like you love to smoke a cigarette I'm sure after eating dinner, it's the same thing. So please don't knock me or anyone else's lifestyle for something they enjoy. This thread was a discussion about smoking, it wasn't intended to be knocked upon.
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
I was asking for clarification because to me that didn't make much sense. I wasn't sure if you were referring to pot or not, that's all.
I was running my posts past other people to make sure it made sense. ::shrug::
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And actually, I don't smoke pot out of a bong or papers but every once in awhile, I smoke out of a vaporizer. So I'm doing less damage to my lungs then you are by smoking cigarettes.
I never said you were doing a lot of damage to your lungs...in fact, I seem to recall saying something along the lines of "it may be slower to cause cancer" or such; also, if you read my previous posting, I quit smoking all together...not really relevant, but I had promised my girl I would.
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And damage it's done to their minds? That's the most absurd thing I've heard all day!
You don't have to believe me, but it's true. In particular, I had an ex whose dad never did anything but pot, and he was so far gone after 30 years that it was scary sometimes.
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Those fella's must have been doing much worse things then pot.
They might have been, but I doubt it for most of them.
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I never said that I "need" it to enjoy life, it just makes somethings more entertaining and enjoyable.
You've been putting out pretty regularly for it for 11 years. That makes it a habit, and a habit is a need.
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Just like you love to smoke a cigarette
I sure do, but I never did it more than a few times a month, and it never took me away from complete and sober alertness.
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I'm sure after eating dinner, it's the same thing.
Nah, tobacco kills the aftertaste of a good meal.
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So please don't knock me or anyone else's lifestyle for something they enjoy.
I'm not; I stated so quite prominently above. I, however, not allow people to pretend that it's any better than any other drug, nor blatantly state so on an internet forum that might influence the decisions of others beyond what they would normally use their own judgment and experiences for.
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This thread was a discussion about smoking, it wasn't intended to be knocked upon.
This thread was about smoking tobacco, a universally legal substance. People ripped on that, brought up marijuana, and ripped on that. I put in a vote for it to be closed if we can't return to discussion of tobacco in the near future. All other discussions of marijuana have been promptly closed in the past, and I'm surprised this has gone on as long as it has.
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Crash? How are you going to crash? You are perfectly aware of what's going on at all times and I bet you are OVERLY cautious when driving, am I right? Now alcohol is a different story. When you decide to drink a few beers or slam some shots and get real drunk - hell even buzzed - you feel like you are on top of the world and drive like you probably would never drive sober. I know this because I USE to be one of those people. With pot, you don't do those things. You stay in your lane and you are very cautious. True pot smokers out there know what I'm talking about.
Well.. I wouldn't say you're perfectly aware, when I hit a bong, I could hardly walk, and I couldn't drink water at all. The only thing I could do was sit there- and throwup. I can also make the assumption that the more you smoke the better that gets? That as in me not being able to walk, or drink, and throwing up. So I wouldn't say theres no way you can crash, because I think that someone who gets baked out of there mind can't do anything without help (like walking).
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Think I have to agree with Aus as much as it pains me to do so :/
During my high school years, I was the definition of stoner. An 1/8 a day was common. My buddies and I would skip 1st period to get baked....damn near everyday.
I was not myself. My memory was that of somebody with dementia. I could not remember the simplest of things....if classes were not so damn easy I could have in trouble.
Some people are generalizing too much. It is great that you are not addicted, can drive perfectly, etc., but this is far from the truth for all people. I was mentally addicted, if I was not getting stoned I was fiending for weed. My senses were dulled, and I was pretty much out of it.
Thankfully I kicked the habit before college started. There is absolutely no way I could have achieved what I did in the time I did if I chose to continue smoking weed. To each their own though, there are obvious negative aspects to mary jane, if you want to recognize them or not, that is up to you. In hindsight, I can clearly see the damage I was doing to myself, physically and mentally. Fat and dull....no thanks.
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Yupp, I sure am a pain. My logic is like an acid enema. >.>
In other news, SP3 sucks hardcore when updating computers one at a time across a campus. >.<
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You've been putting out pretty regularly for it for 11 years. That makes it a habit, and a habit is a need.
It's not a habit, it's more of a hobby. It's something I enjoy doing just as I'm sure there are things you enjoy doing - like your furry business. If I had to quit smoking pot, I could do it - I had to do it several years ago for over a year and a half, no issues became of it.
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I never said you were doing a lot of damage to your lungs...in fact, I seem to recall saying something along the lines of "it may be slower to cause cancer" or such
Do you know what a vaporizer is? I'm sure you don't since you do not smoke pot. The only thing your lungs take in is pure THC. There is no smoke involved, thus no carcinogens. Besides, there are thousands of other things in the world that you and I consume that can cause cancer - pot is the least of my worries.
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You don't have to believe me, but it's true. In particular, I had an ex whose dad never did anything but pot, and he was so far gone after 30 years that it was scary sometimes.
Hmm, maybe a few other things contributed to that, other then him smoking pot? That's a pretty biased thing to say given that you don't have any true facts other then, "he smoked pot for 30 years". There are zero documented facts that smoking pot will make someone dumb. I hold a 70k a year job and pot has yet to interfere with my career.
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This thread was about smoking tobacco, a universally legal substance.
It was? I could of sworn the title to this thread read, "smokers thread", no where in the title did it state, "smokers thread - cigs only", and since that's a pretty broad term, I'm going to continue to talk about pot and cigarettes. Also, pot isn't illegal everywhere. How do you know that me or anyone else here, isn't a medicinal card holder?
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Well.. I wouldn't say you're perfectly aware, when I hit a bong, I could hardly walk, and I couldn't drink water at all. The only thing I could do was sit there- and throwup. I can also make the assumption that the more you smoke the better that gets? That as in me not being able to walk, or drink, and throwing up. So I wouldn't say theres no way you can crash, because I think that someone who gets baked out of there mind can't do anything without help (like walking).
You wouldn't say that you are perfectly aware? Maybe because your are only a 14 year old and you aren't capable of smoking - think that could be the problem? Like I've said in previous posts, most first time smokers such as yourself corn, don't need to be behind the wheel anyways - hell you aren't even legally able to drive. Throwing up and all that silly stuff is something a first time smoker does, so we know what class you fit in. Silly corn, pot is for grown ups - LOL!
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Originally posted by goodswipe:
It's not a habit, it's more of a hobby. It's something I enjoy doing just as I'm sure there are things you enjoy doing - like your furry business. If I had to quit smoking pot, I could do it - I had to do it several years ago for over a year and a half, no issues became of it.
Then for the life of me I can't understand why you would do it on such a regular basis. To me, it is such a waste.
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Do you know what a vaporizer is? I'm sure you don't since you do not smoke pot. The only thing your lungs take in is pure THC. There is no smoke involved, thus no carcinogens. Besides, there are thousands of other things in the world that you and I consume that can cause cancer - pot is the least of my worries.
You're getting off track. My posting was in reference to the damage done to the mind. I was saying it was just as bad as the damage tobacco may do to the lungs or alcohol may do to the liver.
Live long enough and you're guaranteed cancer, I know this.
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Hmm, maybe a few other things contributed to that, other then him smoking pot? That's a pretty biased thing to say given that you don't have any true facts other then, "he smoked pot for 30 years". There are zero documented facts that smoking pot will make someone dumb. I hold a 70k a year job and pot has yet to interfere with my career.
That's great, but there are exceptions to every rule. I can speak only from my experience, but that experience has been that pot was the main factor in the mental deterioration of these people.
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It was? I could of sworn the title to this thread read, "smokers thread", no where in the title did it state, "smokers thread - cigs only", and since that's a pretty broad term, I'm going to continue to talk about pot and cigarettes. Also, pot isn't illegal everywhere. How do you know that me or anyone else here, isn't a medicinal card holder?
The original post was about kools, putting this thread in the context of tobacco. Also, I never said pot was illegal everywhere, I said that tobacco was legal everywhere, hence our ability to discuss it. Piracy is legal in some countries, but we still can give out direct links to downloads; same deal here.
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You wouldn't say that you are perfectly aware? Maybe because your are only a 14 year old and you aren't capable of smoking - think that could be the problem?
I call complete bullshit. Not capable of smoking? Dude, it's inhale and exhale. Anyone outside of an ironlung is capable. He may not be an experienced smoker, but that's complete different from not being capable.
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Like I've said in previous posts, most first time smokers such as yourself corn, don't need to be behind the wheel anyways - hell you aren't even legally able to drive.
Smokers don't need to be behind the wheel. I don't care if you become paranoid and think you're a better driver or whatever. You are in an affected mental state, no different from someone in distress, depression, or drunkenness, and you should not be driving at all. To say otherwise shows how poor your judgment is and how you really don't give two shits for the well-being of the innocent people around you.
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Throwing up and all that silly stuff is something a first time smoker does, so we know what class you fit in. Silly corn, pot is for grown ups - LOL!
Pot is for people that are so stressed out they have no other way to relax, for people with legitimate medical reasons, for people that can use it without putting others at risk, and for the idiots that fall through the cracks. Get off your high horse, Mr. Experience. It's not respectable.
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During my high school years, I was the definition of stoner. An 1/8 a day was common. My buddies and I would skip 1st period to get baked....damn near everyday.
Hmm, that sounds more like you were being irresponsible and you shouldn't have been smoking anyways. You had a choice to either stay in school and do well, or go and smoke pot - you chose wrong. Pot didn't make you do that, your irresponsible decisions did that.
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I was not myself. My memory was that of somebody with dementia. I could not remember the simplest of things....if classes were not so damn easy I could have in trouble.
Dementia huh? Sounds like you were doing acid or some other mind altering drug. Think you might of had some other issues like ADD or learning disabilities?
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I can clearly see the damage I was doing to myself, physically and mentally. Fat and dull....no thanks.
Funny you say that. I can tell you how many calories I've already consumed today, pot hasn't made me fat. I workout five times a day plus put in a 5 mile run in the mornings then another 2 miles before I do my weight training.
So I'm just going to say that maybe some of you are right, pot isn't for everyone - especially irresponsible people such as yourself svtstang. I don't recommend high school kids to smoke either (look at svtstang and corn), pot is intended for responsible adults and cancer/pain patients that can handle the benefits of pot. Also, some of you guys should do a little research on marijuana and the government before you talk down on it so much.
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You wouldn't say that you are perfectly aware? Maybe because your are only a 14 year old and you aren't capable of smoking - think that could be the problem? Like I've said in previous posts, most first time smokers such as yourself corn, don't need to be behind the wheel anyways - hell you aren't even legally able to drive. Throwing up and all that silly stuff is something a first time smoker does, so we know what class you fit in. Silly corn, pot is for grown ups - LOL!
I'm capable, just not capable of clearing a 2 foot bong in one hit. Nah, maybe the big kid toys arn't my style, but smoking a rello, or a joint, or a bowl- thats kiddie stuff :).
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I will not turn to personal shots as you have goodswipe. I have done right by myself, from high school, to college, and now in my current profession. You do not know me well enough on a personal level to question my mental well being (learning disability because weed affected my memory....wtf??), especially when I remark about events that occurred around 8 years ago. And I was a child then yes....most people that think weed is cool begin experimenting during high school. I am 23 now....do not call me a child.
Smoke all you want. Aus has made a shit load of valid points that I do not feel I must rehash. It seems to me that you are trying more to convince yourself about how little weed can affect you then trying to civilly discuss the matter.
And work out 5 times a day? Bit of an obsessive personality, eh?
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Then for the life of me I can't understand why you would do it on such a regular basis. To me, it is such a waste.
Yea, and that's just your opinion. Just like I don't understand your furry fetish.
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You're getting off track. My posting was in reference to the damage done to the mind. I was saying it was just as bad as the damage tobacco may do to the lungs or alcohol may do to the liver.
Live long enough and you're guaranteed cancer, I know this.
Wrong again, I recall you saying this, "it may be slower to cause cancer", sounds like you said smoking pot will cause cancer.
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The original post was about kools, putting this thread in the context of tobacco. Also, I never said pot was illegal everywhere, I said that tobacco was legal everywhere, hence our ability to discuss it. Piracy is legal in some countries, but we still can give out direct links to downloads; same deal here.
Aus, you know what you meant by that statement - come on. By you saying that you were trying to imply that we shouldn't talk about it. Also, the thread still reads, "smokers thread", so if you don't like people talking about pot, maybe you should suggest that a mod change the thread title?
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I call complete bullshit. Not capable of smoking? Dude, it's inhale and exhale. Anyone outside of an ironlung is capable. He may not be an experienced smoker, but that's complete different from not being capable.
Whatever dude, you hold some childish grudge against pot, which you know nothing about, so you need to get off your high hoarse. And when I say he's not capable of smoking (which I was poking fun at him), I'm talking about him smoking too much or not needing to smoke at all. People that smoke for the first time usually have problems like that because anxiety sets in and they get sick to their stomach. I know corn and his ways, so you can leave me and him out of your ridiculous argument.
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Smokers don't need to be behind the wheel. I don't care if you become paranoid and think you're a better driver or whatever. You are in an affected mental state, no different from someone in distress, depression, or drunkenness, and you should not be driving at all. To say otherwise shows how poor your judgment is and how you really don't give two shits for the well-being of the innocent people around you.
How in the hell can you compare alcohol to marijuana? There are ZERO documented traffic deaths from marijuana. There are over 70,000 (US only) documented deaths and accidents from alcohol just in 2007. Sorry man, you can't compare the two. You sound like just like Henry Anslinger, old and unaware of marijuana and its effects.
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Pot is for people that are so stressed out they have no other way to relax, for people with legitimate medical reasons, for people that can use it without putting others at risk, and for the idiots that fall through the cracks. Get off your high horse, Mr. Experience. It's not respectable.
Hmm, I don't get you man. You slam pot and say that people shouldn't do it, but yet you say it's ok for people that are stressed out and for people with legitimate medical reasons to use it. So which is it bro, you can't be so wish washy here.
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