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I will not turn to personal shots as you have goodswipe. I have done right by myself, from high school, to college, and now in my current profession. You do not know me well enough on a personal level to question my mental well being (learning disability because weed affected my memory....wtf??)
Personal shots? You were trying to imply, just as aus was, that it effects people so much that it makes them retarded. To me, that was a personal shot at me. I am an avid smoker and I am far from retarded.
Quote: Smoke all you want. Aus has made a shit load of valid points that I do not feel I must rehash. It seems to me that you are trying more to convince yourself about how little weed can affect you then trying to civilly discuss the matter.
I am trying to discuss this on a adult level. I feel that I have made valid points myself. Neither of you know the truth about marijuana and you need to do a little bit of research before you start to shoot me down. I will be more then happy to provide links to the both of you.
Quote: And work out 5 times a day? Bit of an obsessive personality, eh?
Obsessive, hardly. I call it trying to stay fit and live a long and healthy life. Maybe you guys should try it, it's an excellent way to relieve daily stress - even better when you smoke a bowl afterwards! ;)
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All this quoting is becoming a bit redundant, eh?
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I love both of you guys, how bout we just shake hands? ^..^
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8. July 2008 @ 15:48 |
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I cannot speak for Aus, but speaking for myself, I do understand "the truth" about weed. If you read my first post, I said my complaint with your argument is that you are over generalizing. Like you, I drove like a champ stoned, but just because I did does not mean everybody else who smokes does.
I am not against you at all, but I do not agree with some of your statements where you transpose your experience on others. I have always been highly motivated, but bud made me feel lazy, BUT, I will not say it makes everybody the same way. THC, just like the active ingredient in any drug, will affect us all differently....that is all I was really trying to get across.
Funny thing is I would probably work out more if I had the time. I hit the stair master (wow typing stair master makes it sound really lame) 5 times a week for 75 minutes...any more then that and I would die from exhaustion :p
And yeah, the quoting is starting to hurt my head :/
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/shakes hand. Like I said, I meant no ill will. Topics like these do tend to get personal quickly though...tis the way of the beast.
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First off. Bongs, steamrollers and other big things are the real kiddy stuff. That's how you get caught. Too much paraphernalia, too big, and too obvious. Pipes for life. The point of weed(for me at least) is to smoke a bowl, catch your buzz, and relax for a while. I don't use it as an escape, I use it to keep my self sane.
All of you guys make valid points. I'm not gonna restart all of this quoting BS again, but I will say this: Smoking pot is a choice you make for yourself. Getting behind the wheel stoned is a choice you make yourself. When it hits the fan, right, wrong, or indifferent, the cops don't give a flying f*** about how pot affects you. They only care that you made the choice to drive stoned.
Be cool and never make it obvious that you are high. You'd be surprised how many people are stoners for life but never get caught once.
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8. July 2008 @ 16:53 |
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Originally posted by svtstang: I cannot speak for Aus, but speaking for myself, I do understand "the truth" about weed. If you read my first post, I said my complaint with your argument is that you are over generalizing. Like you, I drove like a champ stoned, but just because I did does not mean everybody else who smokes does.
I am not against you at all, but I do not agree with some of your statements where you transpose your experience on others. I have always been highly motivated, but bud made me feel lazy, BUT, I will not say it makes everybody the same way. THC, just like the active ingredient in any drug, will affect us all differently....that is all I was really trying to get across.
Funny thing is I would probably work out more if I had the time. I hit the stair master (wow typing stair master makes it sound really lame) 5 times a week for 75 minutes...any more then that and I would die from exhaustion :p
And yeah, the quoting is starting to hurt my head :/
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/shakes hand. Like I said, I meant no ill will. Topics like these do tend to get personal quickly though...tis the way of the beast.
Right on, well I belong to this organization that's why I feel so strong about this subject. Read up on it, very informative.
On the lazy subject, of course that's how your going to feel! It's suppose to relax you. But you do know that there are thousands of strains of marijuana that do different things to you. Some can be very uplifting, some can give you couch lock, and some can relieve pain and anxiety. All depends on when the strain is harvested and what genetics it carries. I have anxiety issues so I like to smoke Strawberry Cough, read up on some things my friend.
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8. July 2008 @ 21:10 |
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Originally posted by Auslander: Defend it all you want; far be it from me to tell someone what they can or cannot do to themselves. But don't pretend 1.) it's not addictive...all substances can be addictive, if not physically, then mentally;
It depends on the type of person you are, some people get addicted to coffee, (with withdrawl symptoms) some are addicted to video games, some aren't addicted to anything and can use things without the desire to do it again. Personally I smoke weed say 7 times a month? And some months I go without any, I haven't had any in two months as I'm heading to amsterdam in July, but I don't think it is addictive to everyone. That's just like saying that anyone who drinks alcohol will become addicted to it, which simply isn't true. Likewise with those cigars that you smoke. Originally posted by Auslander: or 2.) the long term health effects are less than that of alcohol or tobacco. I've seen firsthand the damage done by people that would be "chainsmokers" or "alcoholics" if they were using different substances. It may not cause cancer as quickly or eat your liver, but it makes you soft between the ears. There are too many people that don't have the gray matter to spare for that kind of damage.
I've seen people with awful awful caffeine withdrawal symptoms and it really isn't very nice, violent shaking, loss of appetite etc. But like I said not everyone is prone to these effects. There are tons of dutch studies disproving many of the negative health aspects of cannabis. Don't get me wrong, smoking anything isn't good for you, but using a vaporiser or baking cannabis ca get rid of up to 99% of the carcinogens. Cannabis is a psycho-active chemical which I assume is why you consider it to be able to "make you go soft between the ears" but so is caffeine, and there are countless numbers of legal medicine which have very serious negative effects on one's health. This is where the moderation and self-control comes in handy and applies to alcohol as well as weed.
Originally posted by Auslander: But don't pretend that any substance is safer than any other. They can all become quite dangerous in the wrong situation.
Of course come substances are more dangerous than others. Take ecstasy for example, one of the major risks is overheating, yet with cannabis what can it be? Eating too much? I suppose you could say getting hit with a car, but everyone is prone to that, even without using any kind of substance, but weed would not impair one's judgment as ecstasy or LSD would.
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9. July 2008 @ 06:11 |
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I don't know how long we can keep this up, lol.
Back to a more... user friendly topic. Buying cheap cigs now. Basics. Not bad at all, lol. As long as they aren't Winstons or Salems :P
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9. July 2008 @ 11:23 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis: I don't know how long we can keep this up, lol.
Back to a more... user friendly topic. Buying cheap cigs now. Basics. Not bad at all, lol. As long as they aren't Winstons or Salems :P
We can keep it up as long as we want. This is the, "smokers thread", not the "smokers thread - cigarettes only", I feel that the government is violating my right and others to smoke pot. It needs to be in the same class as cigarettes and alcohol. I will continue to talk about the joys of smoking pot until I'm banned for some reason or they change the title to cigarette's only. Honestly, how fun is it to just discuss cigarettes?
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I've been buying marb 72's as they've been b1g1 free... yeah they're shorter and annoy the shit outta me but i'll suffer for the cheap pack of marbs...
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Originally posted by engage16: I've been buying marb 72's as they've been b1g1 free... yeah they're shorter and annoy the shit outta me but i'll suffer for the cheap pack of marbs...
What's the difference in all the cigs? Like you got lights and ultra lights, does that mean they have less nicotine or other less harmful things in them? I knew it was one or the other, but wasn't sure.
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lights and ultra lights have less tar and nicotine... that's why it tastes like your sucking air... marb 72's are shorter than a normal king... kinda like 100's are longer than a normal king...
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Ok, thought so. My Mom smokes American Spirits, you guys like those? I think they are pretty fucking expensive though.
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9. July 2008 @ 13:47 |
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American Spirits are really good. But they're like $7.00 a pack when most cigarettes are usually $4.50/$5.00. I just buy as cheap as I can stand. Usually it's Newports, but I don't mind Basics. Sometimes I get Marlboro Reds.
I like a strong cigarette. Newports are pretty much the strongest they make. Some of my friends usually throw up when they smoke Newports. But I'm used to them. I pretty much started smoking on them.
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9. July 2008 @ 21:07 |
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What do weed smokers do to enjoy themselves when high? Personally I can either be in the mood of watching a movie or TV episode (though I usually space out and stare at the colours in the background and miss half the plot!) Or if it's night time, you can't beat getting out the good headphones and getting some trippy music on. Oh the euphoria! Words cannot begin to describe.
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9. July 2008 @ 23:19 |
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Watching a good comedy while you're baked is the thing to do. I just have the worst munchies when I'm watching movies. I also like walking around, as long as I'm just buzzed. I can't stand walking when I'm in that crazy high state. But yeah, movies are good.
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Originally posted by Mik3h: What do weed smokers do to enjoy themselves when high? Personally I can either be in the mood of watching a movie or TV episode (though I usually space out and stare at the colours in the background and miss half the plot!) Or if it's night time, you can't beat getting out the good headphones and getting some trippy music on. Oh the euphoria! Words cannot begin to describe.
Eat, watch movies, sleep, workout, go hiking, hit the volcano again, have sex, eat more food, jam out to some music, go shopping, go fishing. The list can go on forever, so I'll just stop there.
What's your favorite strain?
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10. July 2008 @ 13:20 |
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Blueberry or Acapulco Gold. Blueberry really smells like blueberries, and Acapulco Gold is really gold :)
Mostly though, weed is just weed.
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10. July 2008 @ 13:43 |
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Gold weed? WTF! I remember smoking this real fruity weed, it wasn't blueberries though. More like cherry's. How do people get there weed to smell like that? Must be one heck of a grow.
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I don't really know. I don't know if that's natural or just something genetically modified or what. The best varieties are usually the sweetest. So maybe it has something to do with the THC resin in the strain.
And yes, the plant is actually a golden yellow when it matures. It's an excellent smoke and pretty potent. Tastes a bit spicy-sweet and makes awesome blunts. Mind you the kind with half of the tobacco in them. It's too wasteful otherwise.
Acapulco Gold is actually a misnomer. Real Acapulco Gold died out years ago. The stuff I get is a hybrid crossed with Hindu Kush. Very nice but it only comes around a couple times a year.
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Oh, well still. Never seen golden weed. We just get nice light green stuff. Occasionally we get some bobby brown through here.
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Originally posted by Estuansis: I don't really know. I don't know if that's natural or just something genetically modified or what. The best varieties are usually the sweetest. So maybe it has something to do with the THC resin in the strain.
And yes, the plant is actually a golden yellow when it matures. It's an excellent smoke and pretty potent. Tastes a bit spicy-sweet and makes awesome blunts. Mind you the kind with half of the tobacco in them. It's too wasteful otherwise.
Acapulco Gold is actually a misnomer. Real Acapulco Gold died out years ago. The stuff I get is a hybrid crossed with Hindu Kush. Very nice but it only comes around a couple times a year.
All strains smell and taste different due to one chemical - I can't remember the name right now. The differences come about because those are actually features the plant uses to attract bugs that kill things that would eat it. Color and such all comes with what type of strain it is and the plants environment. My next project is something called Blue Buddha - it's a gross between blueberry and some other strain I can't remember.
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Originally posted by goodswipe: My next project is something called Blue Buddha - it's a gross between blueberry and some other strain I can't remember.
Laughing buddha maybe? :P
I usually get crappy regular homegrown stuff here, though you do get the occasional good strain come through, like AK or white widow or something. There's also the horrible contaminated hash, tastes like mint and smells like sawdust!
Going to Amsterdam on the 20th july, can't wait!
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Yeah, we get the stuff were like 18 year olds grow it in there closet. I occasionally get some decent herb, its skunky, and it's at the point were it just comes off the stem, you don't gotta sit there forever and peel it off. However, most of the time, we get that extremely dry herb. It takes like 20 minutes to peel 2 nugs, and even then there's still a lot left on the stem. They also have a load of seeds, which means he left them grow too long (I think).
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Originally posted by corn: Yeah, we get the stuff were like 18 year olds grow it in there closet. I occasionally get some decent herb, its skunky, and it's at the point were it just comes off the stem, you don't gotta sit there forever and peel it off. However, most of the time, we get that extremely dry herb. It takes like 20 minutes to peel 2 nugs, and even then there's still a lot left on the stem. They also have a load of seeds, which means he left them grow too long (I think).
The dryer the better, it means it's been properly cured. Stuff I get hear is always wet, because the growers rush their yield to get it sold, or because they wash it to make it weigh more. Most commercial growers just don't properly cure it for the weeks and even months that it deserves.
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Oh, I heard it was good if it was moist (not soaked, but moist), and bad if it's really dry. Hmm. Just wondering, what does a dimebag weigh out were your at? Here it's 1.7g, but I heard that was wrong.
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Originally posted by Mik3h: Going to Amsterdam on the 20th july, can't wait!
I went about 7 years ago, check this place out right off the canal/ redlight district--- http://www.smokey.nl/
I asked for their most potent strain and gave me Crystal. It had all the green bred out of it and was so crystalline it was damn near see-through.
Originally posted by corn: Oh, I heard it was good if it was moist (not soaked, but moist), and bad if it's really dry.
Sticky and wet are 2 different things LOL! Dried properly (hanging, preferably over wax paper or foil to collect any resin for hashballs) doesnt change the potency much at all. A lot of that comes with how its kept after/amount of handling/leaving it in that same shitty baggie in your pocket LOL. I freeze mine in resealable glass containers to avoid the aging process.
On the topic of the other kind of smoke, after 15 years of regular tobacco smoking I stopped 2 years ago right after my daughter was born. I mentioned that in one of the first pages but say it again to say I find myself really wanting one after a few beers but not normal frequency like a "regular" smoker (drug addict). Sometimes I steal a drag from a friends smoke when they light up and I'm fine for the whole night with just 1 hit of that drug. At least I'm not chronic about it or blowing it in my kids face, just annoying to my buddies...
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