is the ritek media any good
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ChuckD
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9. September 2004 @ 15:25 |
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thanks for all the replys, i see tdk doesent have any firmware updates so i guess im should try drd-r
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HaiTac
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9. September 2004 @ 16:44 |
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good luck! :)
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10. September 2004 @ 06:07 |
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This is what I know!!! Piodata will have different colour inserts inside. All for different brands. In UK Piodata only use Ritek dye, and very very popular!!! It is A Grade Ritek dye!!! It comes up with GO5 on a alcohol test. And its 8x!!!
Nephilim if you have not tested Piodata 8X then please don't knock it. Its really not fair as you are a well respected geezer on this forum and people read what they see and take it in.
You need to test them before mouthing off like that!!! All you hear is word of mouth and that is no good!!! Sorry to be rather blunt mate!!!
I have been using Piodata 4 x with logo and white top for my backups and they are prob. the best discs I have used in a long while!!! Both are Ritek GO4 dyes.
Now I have changed to 8 x white top Piodata they are even better!!! www.bigpockets.co.uk, www.bulkmedia.co.uk and www.ukdvr.co.uk all have them!!! But they are all UK companies!!! All have Piodata (Pioneer Brand) Ritek GO5 8x White top inkjet printable!!!
I have heard also in US they have a mixture of Gigastorage and Ritek it really depends on what you get!!!
PIODATA 8X RITEK DISCS ARE THE BEST!!!
WWW.PIODATA.COM (BRAND NAME OF PIONEER)
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debs182
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10. September 2004 @ 06:16 |
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I swear by ritek, never had any problems and i don't know anyone who's said they don't work on their dvd player or x-box.
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10. September 2004 @ 06:29 |
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I just bought some Piodata 8X inkjet printable yesterday. The company sold me the disks also gave me a copy of a certificate from Ritek certifying Piodata are A grade. I believe what I see.
I would like to show you the certificate, but I can't upload to the site.
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10. September 2004 @ 06:45 |
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Another good way to test your media is to setup a temp file & use DVD Decrypter to copy it back on to your hard drive if it will copy it all,then u got a good disc,if it don't u got bad clusters on that disc.Mind u now a lot of DVD Players will play a Disc with bad clusters.You just can't make a copy of it,if it goes bad.This to me seems to be the fastest way to check my Disc's.Then I just delete the temp file.
I always make 2 copies anyway one to use & one to keep just in case the one I use becomes damaged & I need a new copy.This is the cheapest way to save my Movies.As I'm quite frugal with my money,& wait till I catch a sale on blank media then buy large quantities.I only buy RitekG04's & ProDiscS03's,both under $.50 ea.,before shipping.Not always is best to buy just because they advertise free shipping.But I do look for that too
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10. September 2004 @ 08:09 |
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Do you work for Piodata??? Or something???
LOL!!!
PIODATA 8X RITEK DISCS ARE THE BEST!!!
WWW.PIODATA.COM (BRAND NAME OF PIONEER)
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10. September 2004 @ 12:52 |
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just bought my first 25 used 10 and their great
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HaiTac
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10. September 2004 @ 14:19 |
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SCS+,
I dont work for piodata but the way i post my msgs using url on most of my posts, users thought iam working for them.
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Londor
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10. September 2004 @ 20:11 |
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Quote: Originally posted by HaiTac:
come on Nephilim ! buy some PioData DDD-R media @ SuperTechStore and test them out yourself.....
I will be thank you.....
Regards,
CEO PIODATA and Tila Entertainment Network
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PIODATA is a Ritek branded...I will use Piodata email and email you Nephilim,
Quote: Originally posted by HaiTac:
Ritek is the best, go for it... and dont make me to tell you to go to my PioData DVD-R media :)
Quote: Originally posted by HiTac:
I dont work for piodata but the way i post my msgs using url on most of my posts, users thought iam working for them.
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HaiTac
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10. September 2004 @ 21:14 |
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cool!
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11. September 2004 @ 04:57 |
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@Londor
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Originally posted by HaiTac:
come on Nephilim ! buy some PioData DDD-R media @ SuperTechStore and test them out yourself.....
I will be thank you.....
Regards,
CEO PIODATA and Tila Entertainment Network
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PIODATA is a Ritek branded...I will use Piodata email and email you Nephilim,
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Ritek is the best, go for it... and dont make me to tell you to go to my PioData DVD-R media :)
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I dont work for piodata but the way i post my msgs using url on most of my posts, users thought iam working for them.
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Yes, you ran across a running commercial for PioData. Seems to happen quite often anymore, forum commercials that is. When anyone is bored, they start a thread similar to "who likes Ritek". How we got a PioData commercial in a thread named "is the ritek media any good" is interesting.
Londor, as a resident expert, you should share your information on the Ritek ripoffs and involvement in selling low grade media and the grading that Ritek does and how they sort it out through various vendors. I should have paid more attention to the location of that post of yours. It would have been an additional proof you could use to show how bad Ritek can be, forum info and all.
Me, I think I can put my trust in good companies like Meritline and the Ritek product. A good product and a great guarantee. Instances I'm familiar with, they paid shipping when there was a problem. Afterall, no product is perfect.
So far the majority of users haven't embraced PioData. However, the brand is sold by some reputable companies, Meritline included . Then some companies sell Verbatim made by CMC. Still wondering about the commercial in a Ritek thread. Anyway, maybe PioData will eventually get away from being a 3rd rate brand, who knows. But first, they'll have to earn a better reputation in the real world. Blurbs on a forum won't do it for them.
That link Nephilim added at the beginning of the thread has some good info. http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm Anyone reading this thread should at least profit by checking out that link. Londor, you'll love it, they grade media.
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HaiTac
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11. September 2004 @ 15:03 |
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take a break now, will be back next week with more..
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forkndave
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11. September 2004 @ 15:31 |
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I used some Piodata once and they were Ritek G04. Had no problem with them except that genuine Ritek is cheaper. I have lately switched to Prodisc mostly because they are cheaper than Ritek and the last 300 I got were MCC coded. Haven't had had any coasters yet and I have had a few with my last batch of branded ritek. I don't think the +R Prodisc are that great, but at least for now the -Rs are about as good as you get.
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12. September 2004 @ 02:45 |
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forkndave
I wasn't sure who was manufacturing all the PioData discs. Seems they're using some good manufacturers as well as poor, they had some low end stuff with the Lead Data media. I just wonder if the poor stuff is still being sold. Goes to show it is more the manufacturer than the disk brand. Those MCC (Mitsubishi) are from a quality manufacturer as are the Ritek. Sometimes with the various brands, you don't know what you bought until you get it home and check one of the discs for the manufacturer code. Hope your luck holds with the media purchases.
Seems john179 and I learned a similar lesson. I'd purchased 2 large quantities of memorex and they were manufactured by Ricoh (a top manufacturer), but the last small batch wasn't. Seems Memorex switched to CMC for more of their media. I'm no longer happy with Memorex. Just threw that in to point out how a person can get burned when a brand changes manufacturers. CMC isn't worth the Memorex price, or I don't think so.
Speaking of Memorex though, Prodisc made some of their -RW media. Fuji is selling some of the same discs sold under the ProDisc label. Speer sells ProDisc, but the manufacturer codes are different on the batches I know of. If you run out of Prodisc and need some quick replacements Fuji is a good bet. Their -R Video discs (not Data) are made by ProDisc. Fuji +R Video media is made by Ricoh. That info is correct unless they changed manufacturers (can't tell when they do those changes). I always check my purchases before I start burning. It's easier to get a refund if you haven't started using the merchandise.
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chthomson
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12. September 2004 @ 06:31 |
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If at first you don't succeed ...........!
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brobear
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12. September 2004 @ 09:32 |
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chthomson
That's some pretty good info on the CMC and Ricoh codes on the package. CMC had been the supplier of -R discs for Memorex for quite a while. However Memorex went to CMC for the +R as well and those had previously been Ricoh. I found that out after buying a small pack in a local shop. I'm talking about the 4X media. That number change you noticed was from a 2.4X CMC and a 4X Ricoh disc. I wonder if there is a difference in the numbers on the 4X CMC and 4X Ricohs in the Memorex brand.
Most of the smaller packages of Memorex, even if Ricoh, are over priced (unless you catch a good sale). Normally, I purchase media from reputable dealers on the net. Purchasing larger bundles gets free shipping and lower costs. To make a long story short. I can't see the packages until I receive them. So, reading codes would be more helpful for those who can read the codes in the shop before purchasing. I either go with a manufacturer brand, i.e. Ritek or Ricoh, or a brand that has a good track record of using top line manufacturers. It's still a safe bet to buy Verbatim, Maxell and Imation. If I'm running low and have to buy local, I get one of those in +R.
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forkndave
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12. September 2004 @ 12:47 |
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Brobear, I've pretty much always had pretty good luck with Prodisc. The S03s were good also, although not as good as the MCC coded ones. I did buy some of the Fuji discs a while back. I was in Fry's and thought I wanted to try some silver top printables. These are Fuji -R 8X. It turns out that they were Prodisc F01 media code. These were not near the quality of the other Prodiscs I've got. They have much higher PI and PO errors than the other Prodiscs I have. They seem to play O.K., though. I'm sure I won't buy any more of them. They also cost $59.99 for 50, which sure isn't cheap. I was kinda hoping they would by TY like Fuji discs I've bought in the past. Live and learn, I guess.
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12. September 2004 @ 13:42 |
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Is it just me, or do some debates get old and tired?
Use bad media and you?ll get bad results. If you're uncertain about the quality of the media you're using, then you should identify it using any one of the many apps, authored for that purpose. Nero info tool is often enough,
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forkndave
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12. September 2004 @ 15:12 |
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Who is debating anyway?
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12. September 2004 @ 15:43 |
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Read!
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forkndave
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12. September 2004 @ 16:33 |
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I have read the whole thread and have seen no debate for the last seven or eight posts. I just see people sharing information. There is no debate unless people are disagreeing which I haven't seen for several posts. Untill now. I guess we are debating about whether there is a debate or not. This is silly.
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12. September 2004 @ 19:08 |
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Sheesh, go on vacation and a thread gets interesting!
Quote: Nephilim if you have not tested Piodata 8X then please don't knock it. Its really not fair as you are a well respected geezer on this forum and people read what they see and take it in.
Am I not entitled to my opinion? I'm set in my ways and I don't mess with a good thing so if that makes me a geezer then I'm fine with it. I've burned through several hundred Ritek G04 without a single bad burn related to the media. Sure folks can send me a couple of discs to test but what does two burns realistically prove?
It's an undeniable fact that fakes and knockoffs are out there and when you couple that with the fact that I'm about as skeptical as they come you get my typical recommendations for media - Taiyo Yuden, Branded Ritek G04/05 and Mitsubishi Chemicals Corp (MCC) - all three with proven track records and have personally used.
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12. September 2004 @ 20:31 |
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Hey neph, hope you had a good vacation. I pretty much agree, Have never tried Taiyo Yuden, but I have one point to make. I also have never had a bad burn with G04's or products by MCC.
I had one bad G04 disc with a spot on it out of close to 400 burns.
So, here's my question, why mess with anything else, as I stated previously "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".
From one "geezer" to another.
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karatone
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12. September 2004 @ 21:37 |
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The Ridata or Ritek 4X discs I've been using for over a year now have been flawless after 400 burns not a single coaster. Back in the day when CDR's were king and DVD media was just something we were all still waiting for, I would get upset if I had a cdr coaster, now with dvd media being more expensive then cdrs it's really important to find a media that works with minimal waste. Ritek media is very popular on this site for good reason,it is awesome! just be sure they are real Riteks before purchasing because some online stores claim they sell Ritek and it may not be. Good luck!
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