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try www.svp.co.uk for genuine TY, though the ones i bought were 8x. hang on i'll check.
yup i can only see 8x...
you could go for Verb's though (hint hint)
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am i acquiring your psychic ability or what creaky? LOL~
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
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lmao, you can tell i subscribe to far too many posts :)
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MSUDawg
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3. June 2005 @ 00:53 Report an offensive post
Hello first of all to everyone. I am a newbie to your site and I look forward to sharing some interesting discussions here. My question is about the Taiyo Yuden 16x DVD-R. I am expecting my first shipment of DVDs (which happen to be Taiyo Yuden 16x DVD-Rs) from Meritline.com for my new NEC-3520A drive I purchased. I have taken the liberty to contact Meritline and ask for verification of the validity of the Taiyo Yudens and make sure they are the true brand. We discussed about the fact thatthey are TY fakes on the market and she assured me that they are the real deals. I will verify personally when they come in tomorrow and let everyone here know so that you can feel confident ordering from them and you not get stuck with fakes.
Anyway, my question is what should I be expecting to see (code-wise) when I perform a check to test the validity of my new Taiyo Yuden DVD-R 16x? Would they be different than the codes for the 8x's? Thanks you all for this AWESOME site and to all who can answer these questions.
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3. June 2005 @ 01:02 Report an offensive post
TY 16x will be TYGO3~ :)
let us know~ media coding IS NOT THE SAME for the 8x compared the the 16x~
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3. June 2005 @ 01:28 Report an offensive post
Great.....Thanks for the quick response kivory666. I will certainly let you all know what I came up with. This is my first DVD burner and I'm very new to this arena of computing but I am a very quick learner and I hope to be on a more even keel with you are shortly.. LOL I have used this software to rip the DVD to an .ISO image file so that when the blanks come in, I will be able to burn straight from the image. I love the simplicity of this software and when I have tested the image file and viewed the movie after ripping, the quality was perfect to that of the DVD source. I was curious if anyone here has had any experience with DVD Copy Tools 3.5.3.0. I think it does an awesome job and it relatively fast for the ripping. Check it out for those who have not tried it.
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@ msudawg:I hope you enjoy your Nec 3520.. I've had mine for one month now and it is super!
@ kivory666: By the way, I have some Verbatim 16X +Rs in route. Will they code out as TYG03?
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MSUDawg
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3. June 2005 @ 17:15 Report an offensive post
Ok guys...here are the results from my first batch of TY 16x DVD-R as follows: (Some of this doesn't make any sense to me...lol)
Media Information
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID TYG03
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name MERMAID
Application id
Implementation id mkisofs
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 6/ 2/2005 17:43:45
Format Capacity 3.78GB(4.06GB)
Book Type DVD-R
Media Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown
Available Write Descriptor CLV 16.0x 22160KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 12.0x 16620KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.0x 2770KBps
Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
2x Speed OPC beta 09
2x Speed OPC power 09
2x Write Strategy field 1 15 A9 9A 90
2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta 07
4x Speed OPC power 11
4x Write Strategy field 1 0C 10 0B 06
4x Write Strategy field 2 95 07 0D 0B
4x Write Strategy field 3 80 00 00 00
4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 08
4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 16
4x Write Strategy field 4 17 96 88 85
4x Write Strategy field 5 B7 89 33 83 30 33
4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 1E419Fh
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1
Complete Media Code
00000000 00 EA 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 84 0D 11 .....@....R.....
00000010 66 78 90 00 03 54 59 47 30 33 00 00 04 00 00 00 fx...TYG03......
00000020 00 00 00 00 05 A8 82 00 20 00 02 00 06 09 09 15 ........ .......
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creaky
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3. June 2005 @ 17:19 Report an offensive post
while you're waiting for kivory666, i'll chip in and ask what's the letters/and or numbers round the inner hub of the disc ?
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MSUDawg
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3. June 2005 @ 17:41 Report an offensive post
Hello creaky....Here are the letters and numbers around the inner hub:
GD524A501810GH
Those are fakes
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Hi again, Firstly, thank you all for your replies!
I could only see the 8x on sale too.
Are Verbatim really that good? I have 300 or so data dvds [Ridisc G05 dye ] but I really want to make 2 bulletproof archives, one for occasional use, the other as a backup. Naturally, they will both be kept in Caselogic cases, stored vertically and out of light/heat/moisture, but I only want to use the best discs.
Can I take it that SVP are the only UK retailer to sell genuine TY discs?
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@aland
you have confirmed that the 16x TYs that was coded out by msudawg purchased from meritline.com are fakes????? do you have evidence supporting that my post is incorrect when i stated that he got genuine TY discs? im just curious to where you got your info, i called meritline shortly before i made my statement on here and spoke to a rep. stating meritline ONLY sells authentic TYs~ i have yet to see anyone dispute the AUTHENTICITY of TYs sold by meritline, as even to me, irregardless of their sometimes poor packaging/shipping department, i have not heard of them selling FAKE TYs as shop4tech was the only company that i have had the misfortune of running into FAKE TYS in the past~
while you might be correct and i am wrong or misinformed about my knowledge of TYs, but i would like to know where you are getting YOUR info. on this~
if you are right about this and i am wrong, this could really devastate meritline's reputation about selling ONLY AUTHENTIC TY media, which would mean that I, along with MANY others on here, have been duped by meritline's honesty and selling practices. please let me know about the validity of your statement as i always keep an open mind about everything and i DO make mistakes about TY here and there, i am only human, but, i have taken the time and done MY research on TY media extensively, so, unless further proof can be obtained, i still stand on my statement as to msudawg purchasing AUTHENTIC TYs from meritline~
i respect you as a friend on here aland, but, i would appreciate some concrete evidence if you are saying my comment is wrong~
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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24. June 2005 @ 04:17 |
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@kotsu - Verbatim datalifeplus really are that good. As for svp, it's the only place i know of that sells genuine TY. Their prices are very good, which reminds me i should head over there and order some more Verb's myself..
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Thanks a lot! I have ordered from them before and their service was good, though like pretty much all blank media sellers in the UK, packaging could have been better. If they don't have TY will go for Verbatims then.
By the way, which 16x drive would you go for? Am stuck between the Pioneer and the Plextor..
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24. June 2005 @ 04:24 |
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for me , NEC 3540 all the way. I have been looking to buy an NEC drive since they had the 2500 i think it was. But for one i don't 'need' another burner, and for two they keep bringing out new drives every time i blink. But svp do the 3540 for something daft like Ł35 i think. That's throwaway money really for what you get, plus you can get up to 10kg of goods for the same Ł4.49 shipping . Yup their packaging could be better but i've not had problerms yet. Saying that their returns process seems top notch, they just seem very efficient full stop.
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24. June 2005 @ 04:26 |
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I'll look into that, cheers!
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24. June 2005 @ 04:28 |
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oops i missed something. what i meant to say was that their shipping cost is Ł4.49 for up to a whacking great 10kg so if you buy loads of media you can get the drive too for no extra shipping
(creaky drools thinking of the NEC 3540!)
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Hmm, annoyingly, SVP's site seems to be all screwed up. Will try later.. Hopefully they will have either TY or those Verbatim datalife 16x in x50 cakeboxes.. Seen them on various American sites but nothing in the UK yet..
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24. June 2005 @ 04:38 |
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BTW Am I right in thinking that dvd-r is better than dvd+r for data discs?
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24. June 2005 @ 04:44 |
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Heh, ta ^^
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24. June 2005 @ 09:06 |
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kivory666,
I hope you got my P.M. The name of the Ebay site where I believe these were either puchased or wholesaled is Dupsonic. Again, I may be the one who is wrong here, I have been wrong many times before, and I'll be wrong 100 times again, but after having been duped by Dupsonic, I only do business with Rima.com ( I am not pimping this site ) I am only saying that maybe this could be the case. I would not have even brought it up if I had not had this unpleasant experience. I truely apologise if you took it any other way.
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Looks like either the SVP server died, or someone Dos attacked them..Damn and blast!
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@aland
got your PM, i believe I AM WRONG, you are RIGHT~ :P you have made a VERY valid point and so it seems, i too may have been scammed by meritline after this incident. i ordered after msu had initially stated he got it from there, just to try them out myself, i had no idea meritline could be so shady~ :(
anyways, i will publically RETRACT what i said about that media code from before being AUTHENTIC, it is in fact NOT~ :) thank you for pointing this out and i sincerely appreciate you keeping me on my toes in regards to Taiyo Yudens~ while i try my best to keep my mistakes to a minimum, i do get deceived sometimes, it's good someone caught my error before someone else makes the same mistake.
good day to you all and especially to you aland, i thank you for pointing it out, if not for you, i never would have known and seen the light, you are ALWAYS good in my book, thanks again~ :)
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
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25. June 2005 @ 00:42 |
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@kivory666 - one to mention to the TY rep methinks...
good day to you all
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Thank heaven for forums like this!
What happens exactly when a retailer is found to be selling fake media? And what course of action is open to people who have already bought and used fake media? Its a very sad state of affairs..
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@kotsu - bumped into you again !
i saw someone a while back had complained to svp.co.uk that they had come across what they thought were fakes. i can't remember the exact details but svp made a statement clarifying the issue.
as for myself, i reported my fake bulkpaqs (2nd link in my sig i think) to ebuyer but they just brushed it off. i spent months trying to submit a review of those disks with the word FAKE in it. they wouldn't pubish my comments and months later they stuck to the story that they were looking into it, then finally they got feeble and said they don't happen to stock them anymore. Trouble is with companies like that is that they do start stocking stuff like that again, they have no knowledge of what they're selling hence their attitude. At least reputable stores treat you right
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25. June 2005 @ 04:18 |
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Heh, people will start talking! ; ]
Ebuyer have a terrible reputation don't they? It looks like its either a very small operation or a very shady one!
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lol, i just post like a nutter.
i've read good and bad about them in the past. i just stick with svp now cus they're very efficient and reputable, from what i've read and experienced
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I want to say publicly that you are the most knowlegeable person on this forum about many things including Taiyo Yuden media. I on the other hand will probably never know as much as you do. The people on this forum should all commend you on the lenghts you have gone to, too make sure that they have the correct information. But like I said in my other posts, nobody can be perfect. These retailers go to great lenghts to sell as much media as possible, I do not think they realize what one persons bad experience can do to their image. The problem is that the discs they are selling" DO "work, but not as good as the media they say they are supposed to be. The so called TY's I got were not even recognized by my L.G. burner but burned at 12x in my NEC. They were real media, but just not the quality that we are used to. Again, you are my friend and I want everyone to know on this forum, that if anyone is liable to make an error it is not you. We can only go by the information we are given, and if that is incorrect then we have done our best.
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** INFO : Drive = _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A [FW 1.01]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:TYG03]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below
** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 22160 kBps (16.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 16620 kBps (12.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #4 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #5 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #6 = 2770 kBps ( 2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 8467 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 7056 kBps ( 5.09x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5645 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #4 = 4234 kBps ( 3.06x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #5 = 2822 kBps ( 2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #6 = 1411 kBps ( 1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
This is what the real TYG-03 media should look like on NEC 3540
AMD 64X2 3800 Dual Core CPU
Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe MB-Seasonic600WPSU-WDRAPTORX150GIG HD 10,000RPM/WDCaviar SE 16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive/V/C MSI ATI ProTD-256E XI1600/2X1Gig Corsair XPS ram@3-3-3-8 1T
BenQ1640X3/BenQ1655/1650/1620/LG4163/Nec3520/3540
alan1476
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