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23. January 2006 @ 10:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh well, nonetheless its really small and very powerful.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 11:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Auslander;

You are fighting a losing battle here, buddy.

I've seen the way some of these guys talk to people (even the moderators), and they've no respect whatsoever for anyone or anything apart from their opinions...
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Get off your high whore man, you didn't do jack but b*tch and whine. You arent' a moderator and just made a very off topic and condecending post.
Correct, we are Addicts, not moderators. But the fact that we are addicts shows that we care. I care about these forums and the way they are operated. Hence the reason I try and step in every once in a while to try and calm things down/get some sense into people.

But, eventually, a moderator will have had enough of you's, and oust all of you.

Hell, maybe next time you'll come back with a little more respect!!

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23. January 2006 @ 11:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah i agree i mean anubis is a ps3 fanboy but he is ok but on the other hand you say one comment and reasons flys off the handle

SMURF A LOT (XBOX 360 LIVE GAMERTAG)

as far as i know this is the best website for games and other related stuff: www.ign.com
watch this with sound: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=8802&type=mov
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23. January 2006 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There is alot of Truth to that, Lethal, and alot that doesn't work they way you'd like. When someone comes on with nothign on the topic at all and this - "a little newbie flame war here" - they just become a catalyst.

I far as I was concerned it wasn't so much a flame war. A flame war is where poeple have nothing but opinions and propaganda and just yell and swear at each other.

Here, I just had to convince anubis that the pics aren't actully like that, and because I had the real phtotos and IBM's article where they said they just had prtotypes out, it WAS NOT a flame war.

I got impatient when I actually had to go get the link and stuff for him.

It's super easy to get impatient when they have nothign but "nuh - uh, I'm right because I have toher forumn users that believe the same thing, but hell, I dont' have any technical qualifications or evdidence"

Someone has to come in these threads and show who's lying, because when they convince someone to buy their system based on false facts, and then they regret it and realize the truth later, it's no fun the person who needed help.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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23. January 2006 @ 11:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i never said you wernt right, i didnt know myself. i just said in that pic the were lime blue/green.

i dunno if i posted this here now that i think about it, cuz i cant find it, but read this article.
http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cell/Cell0_v2.html
the cell was revised. 4.0ghz, dual threaded ppe, 128 bit spe's, 256 gflops, those are just a few new things. this maybe be cause for the delay of new info about the ps3.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 12:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
PS3 is still using 7 SPEs at 3.2GHz, the 256GFLOPS and 4GHz rating is with all 8 and theoretical, only the premium chips coming off th eline will achieve that and stability.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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23. January 2006 @ 12:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well if thats true, sony better change to the premium because it would be a smart move and cost little more.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 12:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It woudl cost way more and would be IMPOSSIBLE. They will be pressed to roll out Cell chips woth 7 functioning SPEs and the 3.2GHz rating, tons and ton sof chips will come out not workign at all (50% just like desktop CPUs) and a majority will only have 5 or 6 etc and have to be used elsewhere in consumer electronics.

The PS3 you get may very well be one of the hottest PS3s at 3.2GHz, or th eone you get coudl got to 4GHz+ and on up. But we all know clocking will be absolutely impossible on PS3.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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23. January 2006 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the new revision is just the old one with everything put to a more efficient use. it would not cost much more.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 12:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You can think what you want, and I'll know what I know.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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23. January 2006 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
then explain why a higher clock speed and connecting another spe would raise the price to built to a significant level.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Silicon wafer goes in, get's layered, cut, and comes out. You now can throw away half for non-functionality. Finishing, you now have some that don't work, and now you have some that work with varyign amoutns of SPEs and different level of stability.

Now you have to figure out a way to maximize something called "chip yield", if you only use the 8 SPE ones, you'll lose money on the 7 SPE ones wher eyou coudl have used the 7 SPE ones and 8 SPE ones (7 is estimate da sthe most common one coming off th eline, by far too). And out of all those 7 SPE or 8 SPE ones you need to pick a clock rate that th emajority of them can handle while performing.

They have set and still stick to 7 SPEs at 3.2GHz al laround - this is the point they have theorized to maximize their "chip yeild" helping reduce cost and make sure they can sell more PS3 at launch.

They don't give away exact numbers, but having to filter chips by 4GHz stability would push costs way way too high, and launch would be pushed back very far becuase all those 7SPE chips get put in storage for when they are needed in next years consumer electronics like PDAs and TVs.

I think what you are missing is that Sony has stuck to their 3.2GHz and 7 SPE standard, all those f*ing dev kits are having games developed for 7 SPEs at 3.2GHz, 7!!! 7!!!, 8 would be worthless with all those kits already out!! What like 4000 kits are out?

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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23. January 2006 @ 13:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dont the current kits only include a large hdd, atx mobo, ddr ram, and a 7800gtx? i think some even have a radeon in them, so says midway. no cell included.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 13:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know what's in em hardware wise - what's important is that the programming software, guides, and compiler(s) are all set up to make games using one PPE and 7 SPEs at 3.2 GHz

That will not change now.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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23. January 2006 @ 13:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yeah. with the 7spe configuration, the 8th is reserverd for error correction and redundancy.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 13:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When they say "redundency" it means that every chip will have 8 physical SPEs but only 7 are required to function and only 7 will be utilized.

That is what they mean by redundency - not the storing of the same data in two or more places. I do not have any idea where you get that error correcting crap.

Dude, do I have to baby sit you? Why can't you just listen to what I have to say, I'm one of the few on AD who will both not lie to you and not be an idiot.

Fanboy is a term used to describe someone who is utterly devoted to a single subject. This generally is followed by the devotion and support even when proved wrong.

Anecdotal, by my definition, it's the way too many people here think. It's also all the evidence you have.

Xbox 360 GT: NEGATIVE 273K

My advice: Wait for PS3.
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23. January 2006 @ 13:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i know. and doesnt redundancy mean exactly "The ability of a system to keep functioning normally in the event of a component failure, by having backup components that perform duplicate functions." so in the event one spe has a fatal error or dies, the 8th takes over.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 14:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
reasons?, your are history! if you come back than knock off the attitude or you'll get banned again. the is ban #2 for you, let's see if you are dumb enough for #3!!!
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23. January 2006 @ 14:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i always wondered if you can be unbanned. is that possible or no?

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 14:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
depends on the circumstances.
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23. January 2006 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
like if its wrongful, or if they did something bad but not too bad and banning was a bit too
far? what did he do, other than being overactive? just wanna know for reverence cuz id prefer
to be banless myself.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66

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23. January 2006 @ 14:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The banning is more likely to be overturned if the moderator misinterpreted what the user was saying.

But sometimes, it can be the moderator at fault, they are only human (I think :)

@ Reasons? - Don't say I didn't tell you so; (prev. post)
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But, eventually, a moderator will have had enough of you's, and oust all of you.

Hell, maybe next time you'll come back with a little more respect!!

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23. January 2006 @ 14:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
how do they come back? new username like kookoo? that would suck cuz u'd lose your post count..

anways back on topic.. i hope something of the ps3 gets leaked sooner or later cuz its needed to squash some hype over the 360.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
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23. January 2006 @ 14:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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that would suck cuz u'd lose your post count..
Sorry to go back off topic, but where does post count come into play?
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23. January 2006 @ 14:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cuz you lose your title as whatever you had and it has to be recovered.

But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...

PS3 Username: Anubis66
 
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