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best tv for xbox 360/ps3
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DamonDash
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19. May 2006 @ 11:27 |
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Thxs Logik666 & eatsushi.Okay im about to buy a Westinhouse 37 inch LCD for 1600.It goes up to 1080p could one of you guys look up the spec on that LCD and tell me if its a good buy.Model: Westinghouse LVM-37W3 LCD display.Thxs
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eatsushi
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19. May 2006 @ 11:47 |
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DamonDash
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19. May 2006 @ 12:50 |
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@ Eatsushi: What is corner bleeding & lockup issue they are talking about.Im sorry i dont know but thxs a million for your help.
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19. May 2006 @ 13:42 |
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"Bleeding" or "color bleeding" is the blending of different colors on a display with ususally undesirable results. As far as I can tell from the 30+ pages of posts in the thread this is more of a problem with the previous models (the 37W1). I still have to get to the part about the lockup issue. The guys in AVS Forum really know their stuff.
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19. May 2006 @ 14:34 |
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@DamonDash,
I say go for it my friend. Like alot of HDTVs non HD signals dont look great on it. It does 1080P which is fantastic so its good for now and in the furure. The only complaint I saw about it is the remote that comes with it but thats an easy fix and you shouldnt let that deture you.
Bottom line is there is alot of bang for the buck,... which is always a good thing.
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19. May 2006 @ 15:58 |
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i am getting a 27 inch HDTV lcd samsung. it wil cost me a little, but i have seen it in action and it looks great.
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gus738
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19. May 2006 @ 19:05 |
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ricetrack : didnt read the whole thread but i have to disagree with most ppl crt tube are the best quality as tv can get... the xbox 360 highest res will be 1080i and 1080 p is better p= Progressive i= interlanced... all non hd tvs are 480p then theirs 720p ( most xbox 360 games) then 1080i ....
projection is diffrent then crt tubes.. the crt tubes will NEVER burn in images... AND ARE EXTREAMLY CHEAP... now the only bad side to them is 2 things... its big bulky and hevy ( 250 pounds) and they dont make size bigger then 42'' widescreen HDTV...
i have a 16x9 HDTV 1080i widescreen.... 250 pounds and its the best ... i wouldnt trade it for anyting new not even those crapy plasmas... they have flaws... angle to angle looks bad very bad...
however as the sencond or 3rd person said the sony sxrd or so its based on siloicon so it doesnt suffer like other plasmas that have ink inside ... crt = best tv ...
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20. May 2006 @ 02:40 |
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alright guys so i've decided to just get the the 60" sony sxrd for our living room... i'm thinking of getting a sony KLVS23A10 for my bedroom... would this be good enough for gaming? i have a small bedroom so i'm trying to maximize space by getting a flat panel.
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20. May 2006 @ 07:52 |
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The KLVS23A10 should be a good choice for your bedroom and should be great for your 360 thru the component connection. Reserve the HDMI for the PS3. It's resolution should give you a good 720p picture. But if I were you I would just use the 60 inch SXRD in the living room for everything!
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gus738
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20. May 2006 @ 10:08 |
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sounds like youre going to get a sweet set up .
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Ive been playing my xbox360 on my 15" pc monitor it looks alright but im now looking into getting something with 1080i ive seen a HD 32 inch flat tube crt and a dell lcd flat pannel 24" widescreen wich one should i buy and wich one wont have the effects of the image burning into the screen? Thanks
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gus738
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21. May 2006 @ 17:33 |
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I STRONGLY recommend the crt tube... you will NOT get image burn in... i have a 38'' widescreen 16x9 HDTV 1080i and i wouldnt trade it for anyitng in current tech on tvs..
so the 32'' is the one i recommend between both.... and it looks ALOT better then the slim tv.. why? just 1 example.... look it the slim tv from one angle and it looks like shit but on a crt tube it looks perfect... theirs alot of reasons but i put as noob as possible.
oh and if you want to see true tv make sure its always a widescreen 16x9 ...
vs a tridinal 4x3
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21. May 2006 @ 17:55 |
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Dang, wish I could afford the big HDTV.Hey maybe they'll come down a little though.Personaly for me it would be... hdmi or dvi,12ms or lower,hd component,flat panel hd lcd,a cool stand.
Some cheap but good one's are magnavox(owned by philip's) and polaroid.These may seem like weak brands but they do everything that the big guys like sony and panasonic do without stooping so low like those brands you never herd of lol.Thanks for the info yall.
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21. May 2006 @ 18:32 |
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Ricetrack, I bought a 26inch HDTV LCD made by Magnavox. It has a built in HD tuner and also plays in 1080i. The picture is awesome and I only payed 779.00 for it. That would be perfect for your bedroom because of the clarity of the picture. Plus I'm thinking about buying the New Sony 50 inch Grand Wega SXRD LCD Projection Tv. It's the badest tv on the planet right now but it is also expensive at 3200 bucks. I would suggest you buy this one for your living room and buy the Magnavox for you living room since you stated it is small. The the screen clarity is awesome for a small bedroom. I saw the 60 inch version you are thinking about getting but I compared the 50 and 60 inch Sony's together and noticed that the 50 inch had a better picture. Well hope this was usefull to you, Good luck.
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gus738
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i am not trying to brag and stuff.. but crt tubes also have hd integreaded ... so you just plug your ant and you can get atsc which is all hd channels for free and non hd ... ( analog) and crt tubes LOOK best and LAST longest and are ALOT ALOT cheaper...
for a slim tv plasmas lcd etc etc for those to not burn the image in you WILL spend alot of cash... and i mean alot.. see a crt tube would only require calibration after 10 years.. which by then u got new tv n e ways.,.. as where plasmas lcds etc etc those have ink insied so they are heated gas ohh yes that means if you poke the crap out of them they are gone not eve the extended warranty covers it because they will even tell you dont touch the screen... as where a crt sufer NOTING from all the newer tech tvs..
hell i even have a non hd in my room 27'' and i would not trade it for a gay plasma or lcd because mine will look better..
honestly think about it image burn ins are more likely the tv is more expensive and if you look from a angle it looks shit ...
so why they made it? because ppl complain of how much space a crt tube based tv takes ...
as where i say what you look for on a tv? quailty or space saving? and thats your answer..
my next door nevoir bout a new hd plasma 6000 + and said wtf wrong with his that doesnt look HALF as good as mine ... and im like thats just how it is period...
so if you want cheap and best quality then the crt is for you .. if u have money falling off the sky and want only the best then a new hd plasmas with 1080p that cost over 7 gs is for you ...
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22. May 2006 @ 03:16 |
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CRT displays are not immune from burn in.
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/what_sets_avail.html
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CRT burn-in used to be rare, but the demand for brighter images has made manufacturers less conservative... The CRTs in big-screen TVs are pushed even harder, especially in the largest sets.
LCD, LCoS, and DLP sets do not suffer burn-in.
CRT has its advantages and disadvantages:
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CRT advantages:
1.Best color fidelity
2.Excellent blacks, fairly bright whites.
3.Smooth blending of adjacent pixels.
4.Some draw both 1080i and 720p, avoiding errors in format conversion.
CRT disadvantages:
1.Brightness drops as screen size increases.
2.Few truly achieve 1920x1080 resolution, although some get very close. Projection TVs employing 9-inch CRTs get the closest.
3.Constant need for convergence adjustments (making red, green, and blue coincide perfectly).
4.Focus adjustment required every few years.
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overall i think crt tube is the best bang for your buck.. i mean think about it what you want space saving or quality? 2) i'd rather pay 500 bucks more being crt tube , but in this case the plasma/lcd is more expensive.. do somtin quick mesure the place where the tv sits in front of you. then compare both tvs ( crt vs plasma/lcd) and then look it from another angle and you see what i mean... not only its crappy but more expensive too!... so unless you want to spend alot money (over 7gs) for a best tv plasma like then your better off buyin a crt tube.
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Logik666
Its not a huge pain really
contrast is set WAYYYYY too high by most people
you can get the prefect setup of picture by getting your tv ISF calibrated or doing it the cheaper (yet not as good ) way of calibrating it yourself with digital video essentials DVD
Ive played Elder Scrolls Oblivion for 6 hours or so continuous, moved the picture positiuon an inch or so after 2 hours play to be safe
doesnt really bother me too much
rear proj CRT CAN have bigger issues because the CRT tubes are dirven much harder than standard CRT.
still worth it when you consider the price advantages over plasma etc
can get my TV for like $1,200, which is great for a 53in 1080i
XB360 hitachi xtreme f/ware, chameleon case, whisper & airflow blue led. XBOX w/ 2.6 2x custom "djboogie" bios. PSP 1.50 w/ devhook .52 % 303 f/ware.
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Gus
with regards to burn in
it really depends how you use your tv. In theory any crt tube is prone to burn in from EXTENSIVE static imagry. Just go in an arcade and look at video game cabinets, or the big screens of sega rally 2 etc.
BUT having said that, not all video games have static images on screen
Also, I was talking about rear projection CRT which is the big screen cheaper alternative
and they commonly get burn in because of tv logo's, video games, and contrast too high, but with common sense you can avoid it, just dont go to sleep with the game on pause (although they have very nicely added screen saver type options on games too, ES oblivion has the rotating on screen game view when paused for a while)
usually 2 hours a day is fine for any setting, but if you lower contrast, youre much better off.
its definately the cheapest and best way to get into big screen HDTV though
XB360 hitachi xtreme f/ware, chameleon case, whisper & airflow blue led. XBOX w/ 2.6 2x custom "djboogie" bios. PSP 1.50 w/ devhook .52 % 303 f/ware.
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BTW the best place to watch any tv is in front of it
Rear proj might look crap at 45 deg angles
but then, to get the best from a tv, use 5.1 surround, sit in front
bliss:-)))
I have the best possible setup for $2,000, which includes my TV and a bose 5.1, for the price, nothing comes near.
XB360 hitachi xtreme f/ware, chameleon case, whisper & airflow blue led. XBOX w/ 2.6 2x custom "djboogie" bios. PSP 1.50 w/ devhook .52 % 303 f/ware.
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One more thing
re-colour bleeding
GET A TV THAT HAS MULTI POINT CONVERGENCE!!
ITS ESSENTIAL!- dont gte an RCA, convergence is awful on them, and settings are minimal
the pioneer SD53 has incredible convergence controls, and you can get the picture looking amazing, clear, sharp and no red/green/blue bleeding
XB360 hitachi xtreme f/ware, chameleon case, whisper & airflow blue led. XBOX w/ 2.6 2x custom "djboogie" bios. PSP 1.50 w/ devhook .52 % 303 f/ware.
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Many experts think CRTs still produce the best pictures, but those other technologies are getting closer every year. Few CRT sets will draw both 1080i and 720p. Most will draw one and require the tuner to convert the other. A 720p-only CRT set will not work with an external tuner that converts everything to 1080i
so crt are still the best.,... keep in mind diffresnse between crt tube and crt projectors are a diffrense.
djboogie ... honesltyh i play over 7 + hrs 360 xbox 1 watch alot of tv dvds and i have NOT gotten over 1 image burn in , i PROUDLY own a 38'' widescreen 1080i HDTV crt tube direct view from rca and its the best... well who would be dumb enough to spend just simply 500 dollars and over and not buy a warrnty from circuicit city or best buy? lmfao it very useful. oh and my settings contrast and so on are optimsed meaning i tamperd and made it better and noting bad has happened over the past 5 or so years of always consitenly using it ... not 1 fox logo burn in or carrtonetwork or so on.
but thx for your info , btw : a home thearter like you ARE going to need to spend over 2 gs,, i have a an amp from onkyo ... just that cost over 700 bucks erh it cost 1 G? my subwoofer cost more then the average 5.1 auido systems... over 600 bucks.. and i have set up 6 spkrs and the sub so 6.1 ... and thats not even the rest of my hometheater , i own a 400 dvd player a 301 a 201 and so on , i have over 1,000 original dvds. .. heheh i guess im just a fantic to dvds and HOME ENTERTAMINET. and you bet i know alot of thse kinda of tech....
anways for the other readers check also this
Should I buy one of these sets?
Adults who understand the consequences can generally avoid serious burn-in. But kids present some uncertainty. If you have kids and a limited budget then you should keep in mind: If you buy a CRT set with an incomplete warranty then you are taking some risk. It is generally a mistake to connect a video game to a plasma or projection CRT set.
but they also mentioend crt projector... as i said it projector diffrent from a crt tube based set .
so end result i think plasmas arent any good til the new ones arrive on the coming years...
with the exception of a new fouly silicon based tv... the angle effect was almost gone... but i still would buy a crt tube....
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@zippy255:
It will not display 720p as it does not have component inputs. You have to get the VGA adaptor as you cannot use DVI.
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