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mudearies
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_ 		26. June 2006 @ 20:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
' ' It's worth the cost so i wouldn't say it's cheap i'de say it's worth it's price. ' '


agreed. nuff said.
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xyqo
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Thank you thats the point the whole point and nothing but the point.
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dnglebry
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Thats woman logic... Its like a chick strolling up to her husband after she blew a couple grand on a gucci purse that originally costs 4 grand but she bought it for 3 grand with a gorgeuous trinket. ewwwww weeeeee arent we lucky to to have the money?Or she could have saved money and bought something just as good and saved the money.You guys arent listening to what is being and that is that the Blu-ray players are trash and have a return percentage of like 78% so NOBODY really wants them after they see the hypes is trash.The games will look identical on both consoles. I cant say anymore because you guys have got more excuses than bill clinton gave to his wife after the lewinski "incident". It would be a good price to get the Ps3 at $400 bucks without the extraneous Blu-ray player which is all hype no show!
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xyqo
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Where did you get that figure 78% dude???????????
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dnglebry
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_ 		27. June 2006 @ 08:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
On a couple differnt sites where that had polls let me search it and then i'll edit this post with the info.


but really why should i provide the link when it wont chage your mind or sway you to logically view how the Blu-ray player is extraneous and cause the ps3 to be overpriced now will it?
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eatsushi
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_ 		27. June 2006 @ 09:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's 75% returning their Samsung Bluray players:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=690621
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tycobb
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_ 		27. June 2006 @ 09:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't understand why anyone would want to convince us That ps3 is overpriced.If we want to spend our hard earned money on something then let us.

The samsung doesn't speak for every bluray player.If I had a samsung dvd player and it sucked would that mean a panasonic would suck?Nope.

How anyone could try and act like ps3 bluray is overhyped when they haven't seen it is just stupid.

And I'm not relying on other forums and polls anyways.
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xyqo
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Well put. it's not like they're all made to the standards of one company.

If Samsung screwed up that's thier business i think samsungs sux generally anyway.
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tycobb
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Yeah plus that samsung was the first bluray player ever!


Do you think the first tv or pc was great?Hell no they sucked and broke down.also bluray is updatable over the internet which will allow firmware updates that make it more stable.

As hade already pointed out in another thread pc magazine(the best pc mag) gave HD-DVD 2.5 out of 5 score.

I have some sony stuff and though there abit pricey they arn't made cheap and I have never been let down by any playstation release. So what makes people think I would change my mind based upon some disgruntled guys in a forum I never heard of?
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tycobb
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Did you ever get that link dnglebry?
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xyqo
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Blu-ray players are trash and have a return percentage of like 78%.
Chill out man thats not real stats thats just a bunch o crazies freaking out.
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tycobb
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Lol bluray has been out 2 seconds and some people are writing it off as "trash" but most arn't that concerned about it.This isn't the ice cream parlor down the road, this is sony.Just like any other big company there not going to mess the ps3 up.Ps3 is still 5 months away!

Their history has a great track record and the best selling console in history.Gee who am I gonna beleive lol.
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It's worth the cost so i wouldn't say it's cheap i'de say it's worth it's price.
That's about where I'm at with it.
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eatsushi
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Yep xyqo is exactly right. They're a bunch of crazies who shelled out $1000 bucks each to get the Samsung player to see if BluRay lived up to the hype and their expectations. Unfortunately 3 out of 4 of them didn't think so.

That's why they're freaking out.
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tycobb
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Yep all according to a forum link.I think I'll take pc magazines review of HD-DVD as real news before I beleive that link.

pc mag....HD-DVD.... 2.5 out of 5

that's like 5 out of 10
pretty average.
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eatsushi
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_ 		27. June 2006 @ 10:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't really trust a computer magazine reviewing a piece of video playback equipment. For a more comprehensive review here's a link from Ced - our resident AV equipment expert:

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article...
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tycobb
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pc mag reviews stuff other than pc's all the time.Bluray will be a pc drive too.
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eatsushi
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The other issue about the bad BluRay reviews is that it's probably not the player's fault. The first batch of BD movies were encoded with MPEG2 resulting in a less than impressive picture. If the movies were encoded in MPEG4/VC-1 most likely you'll see a lot less returns of the Samsung player.
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tycobb
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I agree.That's the thing all of these reviews are based off the first bluray player. a samsung player but ps3 is 5 months away and it's made by sony who is the founder of bluray.

I think the samsung may indeed suck! But I just can't base my "ps3 being overpriced" opinion off of this type of stuff.I know you must understand eatsushi what I'm saying...and sorry if I come accross wrong.
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eatsushi
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No problem bro.
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LexZ
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allright but same with hddvd in my magazine that i get it says that they literally hated hddvd and said bluray was better and people should buy a ps3 just to get the bluray, besides the season disks will be cheaper because they still have to fit it on 3 hddvds but on bluray 1 or special features on 2 and 1 on bluray. which will drive bluray disk prices down
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LexZ:

I don't know what season discs you're referring to but current BluRay discs can hold only 2 hours of high-def content per single layer 25 Gig disc. This is due to the use of MPEG2 encoding which uses up more space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc
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Realistically, when using MPEG-2, quality considerations would limit the publisher to around two hours of high-definition content on a single-layer BD-ROM.
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tycobb
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True.Of coarse lexZ didn't say anything about the season being in high def which standard def would take much less space than 25 gig for 2 hours. I wonder when the bluray will start encoding in mpeg 4 or other so we can have a real side by side compairison of both bluray and hd dvd .

I also would like to see a different player than the samsung.I don't care about the stupid format war or who wins but I am curious.Either way I think by the time ps3 comes out everything will be kosher. I mean alot can happen in 5 months and that's if ps3 doesn't get delayed.
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dblbogey7
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I see your point tycobb. However, studios probably won't release standard def material on BluRay discs as this would be a waste of the technology. BluRay is inherently a high def format. Standard def material will be released on regular DVD's.
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tycobb
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Really dang that sucks.I was hoping maybe a whole season of lost could come on 1 bluray disc instead of like 10 dvd's lol.It's annoying having to switch disc's and worry about scratching 1 of the 10.
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dblbogey7
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Putting a whole season of Lost on one disc would be cheaper and make more sense for the consumer but will be less profitable for the studios. So you have to bet they won't do it. You know how greedy they can get.
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