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Upconverting Vs. HD-DVD
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aabbccdd
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28. November 2006 @ 22:36 |
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not all upcoverting dvd players look the same . i seen several and the Oppo 971 blows them all away except for the 850.00 Denon
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30. November 2006 @ 09:00 |
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I just purchase Sony SXRD 60A2000 and I have a 6yr old Toshiba (SD-3109C) Progressive scan DVD player. I have hooked it up to my new HDTV using the old RCA jacks (YWR). I am in the same predicamentas the rest of the guys in this forum. Should I get a HD DVD or Upconvert DVD or should I just change the cables on my current DVD player to component.
I feel if I just change the cable on my current DVD player the picture quality will be close to the upconver DVD players, since I think the new TV does some of the upconverting anyway.
Any help in this regard would be most appreciated.
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30. November 2006 @ 11:33 |
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For all of you that haven't bought a HD-DVD player yet. I would hold off just a little bit longer and wait till the new Toshiba HD-A2 comes out next month. It's their 2nd generation HD-DVD player and has upconverting and will go for around $430 online. Also you know the older models are going to drop in price once it comes out.
Check out this article I found on it- http://ultimateavmag.com/firstlookdiscplayers/1106toshibahda2/
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robtwilk
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30. November 2006 @ 20:25 |
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One thing about the Xbox 360 HD-DVD add-on is that it is very "software" based, so maybe upgrades could be done via downloads??
Anyway, I'm guessing the next Xbox 360 will come with the HD-DVD drive included in the main console and include an HDMI output.
But I agree with RMnTnA above - the next gen players will be better than the first ones and eventually the price will come down. It sucks to be an early adopter, but then again you do get to enjoy the good stuff sooner instead of later.
To Rjessa- I have a 62" 1080p DLP TV, when I first hooked up the TV and HD-Upconversion DVD player I used composite (RCA) cables I had sitting around. The picture was so bad I thought I had just wasted $4,000 on the TV - I was sick!
The next day I bought an HDMI cable and replaced the composite cables; the difference was beyond amazing (not just "hey that looks better", but "holy crap that's why I paid $4k for a 1080p HDTV").
However, the quality of the HD-DVD player is 5-10 times better than the picture from my HD-upconversion player.
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G1nger
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1. December 2006 @ 03:27 |
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Before I get all excited about HD-DVD or Blu-ray has anyone got one of these new players hooked up to a CRT-based HD TV? I'm just curious to hear of any experiences..good or bad.
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1. December 2006 @ 03:50 |
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Originally posted by robtwilk:
However, the quality of the HD-DVD player is 5-10 times better than the picture from my HD-upconversion player.
I say AMEN to that.
I would also add the enhanced quality of the new audio codecs namely Dolby TruHD - a much improved home theater experience altogether.
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...has anyone got one of these new players hooked up to a CRT-based HD TV? I'm just curious to hear of any experiences..good or bad.
My girlfriend's dad has a Toshiba HD-XA1 hooked up by component to a Sony CRT 1080i (can't remember the model) and the picture quality is excellent. He's really happy with HD-DVD playback and is planning on a BluRay standalone. Some people will say that CRT's still have the advantage over flat panels when it comes to picture quality.
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G1nger
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1. December 2006 @ 04:35 |
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Thanks for the feedback Dblebogey7. That's good to know for my future plans.
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dblbogey7
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2. December 2006 @ 03:36 |
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No problem G1nger. I just found out that the model of his Sony HDTV is KD-34XBR960 - a direct view CRT set with excellent picture.
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lsymmonds
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3. December 2006 @ 09:57 |
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I am researching a TV and home theater package and have some questions about Progressive scan vs HD DVD players and LCD vs Plasma big screen tvs that I hope you can help me work through.
Question #1: I have a very large library of dvd's, none of which are HD, however I would like to start investing in HD content. I am wondering if there is a player out there that will do both.
Question #2: Since my carrier (DISHNetwork) transmits in 1080i, I am wondering if it is worth the cost of investing in a 1080p TV at this point given that it will likely be a while before DISH will start trasmitting in 1080p and most dvd players cannot seem to accommodate anything above 720p.
Question #3: I play World of Warcraft a lot and would love to be able to use my TV as my monitor. I have read that LCD flat panel is a better format than Plasma because of the speed at which LCD can reproduce the images. My PC is an Alienware Area51M 7700 laptop with an nVidia GeForce Go 7800 GTX video card with 256M of onboard memory. So whatever TV I choose should have a connection I can use to connect to my PC. What type of connection would be best for this application? Also, does the tv's resolution play into this at all?
Question #4: I have a couple of Ipods that I would like to play through the home theater system. Many of the high end systems (Bose, Kef) advertise that they connect to ipods but I cant seem to find any info about how they do it. Any recommendations on a system that can reproduce theater quality sound from the TV, play HD dvds and Progressive scan regular dvds, and connect to my ipods???
Well thats all my questions for now (I think). Help me spend my bonus and give me some direction here. Thanks in advance!!
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3. December 2006 @ 11:23 |
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Question #1: I have a very large library of dvd's, none of which are HD, however I would like to start investing in HD content. I am wondering if there is a player out there that will do both.
not at this time there isn't . BUT you can invest in a upcoverting dvd player which would be a huge improvment. the Oppo OPPO DV-981HD upconverts to 1080p . i have the Oppo 971 it its an amazing dvd player for the money, heres the link
http://www.oppodigital.com/products.asp
Question #2: Since my carrier (DISHNetwork) transmits in 1080i, I am wondering if it is worth the cost of investing in a 1080p TV at this point given that it will likely be a while before DISH will start trasmitting in 1080p and most dvd players cannot seem to accommodate anything above 720p.
Yes you want to go with a 1080p set most the highend sets are anyway.
and as said the Oppo 981 WILL upcovert to 1080p
Question #3: I play World of Warcraft a lot and would love to be able to use my TV as my monitor. I have read that LCD flat panel is a better format than Plasma because of the speed at which LCD can reproduce the images. My PC is an Alienware Area51M 7700 laptop with an nVidia GeForce Go 7800 GTX video card with 256M of onboard memory. So whatever TV I choose should have a connection I can use to connect to my PC. What type of connection would be best for this application? Also, does the tv's resolution play into this at all?
you will need to look for a set that has a DVI input to connect your PC there are plenty out there. you will need a respone time of 8ms to game on it and the res. on the highend sets will work fine
Question #4: I have a couple of Ipods that I would like to play through the home theater system. Many of the high end systems (Bose, Kef) advertise that they connect to ipods but I cant seem to find any info about how they do it. Any recommendations on a system that can reproduce theater quality sound from the TV, play HD dvds and Progressive scan regular dvds, and connect to my ipods???
you will need a highend AV receiver to connect your IPOD though. i have the Yamaha RX-V1700 and its compatible. heres the link to Yamaha
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products.html?CTID=5000100
Well thats all my questions for now (I think). Help me spend my bonus and give me some direction here. Thanks in advance!!
one of the best sets out there are the new Sony SXRD . i have the 60" and love it along with many members in here so it def. a good set to consider. we have a couple threads on the set if you want to give it a look .
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHO...tSKU=KDS60A2000
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/358708
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/327702
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3. December 2006 @ 13:03 |
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Question #1: I have a very large library of dvd's, none of which are HD, however I would like to start investing in HD content. I am wondering if there is a player out there that will do both.
not at this time there isn't . BUT you can invest in a upcoverting dvd player which would be a huge improvment. the Oppo OPPO DV-981HD upconverts to 1080p .
Actually current and upcoming 2nd gen HD-DVD players can be used for DVD playback. The Toshiba HD-A1 that I have does a better job of upconverting DVD's than my Oppo. If you want to start investing in HD content and are going HD-DVD - your current DVD collection will still be playable in your HD-DVD player.
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Question #3: I play World of Warcraft a lot and would love to be able to use my TV as my monitor. I have read that LCD flat panel is a better format than Plasma because of the speed at which LCD can reproduce the images. My PC is an Alienware Area51M 7700 laptop with an nVidia GeForce Go 7800 GTX video card with 256M of onboard memory. So whatever TV I choose should have a connection I can use to connect to my PC. What type of connection would be best for this application? Also, does the tv's resolution play into this at all?
you will need to look for a set that has a DVI input to connect your PC there are plenty out there. you will need a respone time of 8ms to game on it and the res. on the highend sets will work fine
I'm not familiar with the specs of your laptop but if it has a VGA output you can use that and set the video card to display at your HDTV's native resolution. If it has DVI/HDMI then that would be my choice.
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3. December 2006 @ 13:51 |
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Thanks for your suggestions. I also found the Toshiba web site and saw that they are about to release the second generation of the HD-DVD player that also does upconverting for $499, significantly less than the $799 HD-DVD player that Circuitcity has right now.
A follow up question on connecting my PC to a TV - is VGA the only option or are there better options to go with that can get me better video resolution (RCA, S-Video . . .)?
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3. December 2006 @ 13:56 |
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In a previous response, it was suggested that Quote:
you will need to look for a set that has a DVI input to connect your PC there are plenty out there. you will need a respone time of 8ms to game on it and the res. on the highend sets will work fine Quote:
What device needs a 8ms response and where would I look to find that type of information? Do you have any suggestions for sets that would comply?
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3. December 2006 @ 14:06 |
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The 1st generation Toshiba HD-A1 actually retailed for $499 and can now be had for much less if you look around. The HD-XA1 is probably the one you saw at $799 although I thought Circuit City didn't carry Toshiba products. The 2nd gen HD-A2 is priced at $499.
I would stay away from composite RCA and S-Video if you want to connect your laptop. Stick with VGA or (if available) DVI/HDMI.
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lsymmonds
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3. December 2006 @ 14:22 |
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I'm surprised to see an earier poster recommend the Sony WEGA for PC monitor applications as I have heard that the projection tvs do not handle the video as well as the LCD flat panel. I have an old (I mean really old) RCA projection 52" tv that I hooked up to my playstation and PC and the video was horrible. Now I can assume that today's projection TVs are better but are they really the right choice as a PC monitor, especially for playing a game that is as video intensive as WoW??
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4. December 2006 @ 04:06 |
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I have my 7950GT Nvidia card connected to my Sony SXRD by a DVI/HDMI cable and I just set the resolution to 1920 x 1080 with great results. RTS and 1st person shooter games look good. I also record high-definition programs to my PC (firewire connection from a Comcast HD cable box) and the HD playback on this setup is excellent. Like I said just stay away from that S-video port.
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lsymmonds
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5. December 2006 @ 12:15 |
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Thanks for the advice dblbogey7 however I can't seem to find a Sony SXRD tv set on Circuit City's web site that says it has a dvi port. In fact each of the four tvs they carry say they do NOT have a dvi port. Can you tell me more about your tv, such as what the model name/number is and where you purchased your set. They each do have two HDMI ports. Is that what you are connecting to with a DVI cable?
Thanks!!
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5. December 2006 @ 12:33 |
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"The emergence of a single, high-definition format is cause for consumers, as well as the entire entertainment industry, to celebrate."
-Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Home Entertainment Feb 19, 2008
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5. December 2006 @ 17:33 |
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eatsushi is correct. There are newer, cutting edge video cards out there now that feature HDMI outputs with HDCP and these will of course need direct HDMI to HDMI connections to your display. However, you did mention that you had an Area51 laptop with an Nvidia card. Does this have a DVI out? If it does than you can connect this to an HDMI input on the SXRD with the cable that eatsushi showed and set your display resolution to 1920 x 1080.
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lsymmonds
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8. December 2006 @ 18:50 |
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Thanks guys. YOu've all given me some great advice on how to spend my bonus. Now all I have to do is wait to get it. :)
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robtwilk
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Originally posted by dblbogey7:
eatsushi is correct. There are newer, cutting edge video cards out there now that feature HDMI outputs with HDCP and these will of course need direct HDMI to HDMI connections to your display. However, you did mention that you had an Area51 laptop with an Nvidia card. Does this have a DVI out? If it does than you can connect this to an HDMI input on the SXRD with the cable that eatsushi showed and set your display resolution to 1920 x 1080.
I have the Mits 62" 1080p DLP TV with two HDMI inputs (one is PC compatible). I have my Dell laptop hooked up to a docking station with a DVI output. Then I use a DVI to HDMI cable to my TV.
I cannot get the image to fill the screen no matter what I try. The computer image appears as a box in the middle of the screen - maybe 60% of my total screen space.
Any ideas? Thanks!
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14. December 2006 @ 02:36 |
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It could be a limitation of your laptop's video card. Could you give us the specs?
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robtwilk
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14. December 2006 @ 12:09 |
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My laptop is a Dell Latitude D600. The specs say:
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The Dell Latitude D600 features the ATI® MOBILITY? RADEON? 9000 graphics chipset with 32 MB of 64-bit DDR dedicated graphics memory for the most demanding applications. This 4X AGP solution features integrated video acceleration for watching high quality, full frame rate DVD on your notebook or connected to your external display...
Here a quote from ATI's website "Connect the notebook to a big screen television for a true cinematic experience with no sacrifice in quality." Here's the link for my chipset:
[url=http://ati.amd.com/products/mobilityradeon9000/index.html][/url]
The only way I can use it with my TV is to place it in the docking station which has the DVI output.
Let me know if this is enough information - thanks!
Can someone tell me why my link is not a link? I used the add URL radio button during my post...
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eatsushi
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A 32MB ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 probably can't do 1920 x 1080 that's why you're not filling up your 1080p DLP display. What's the maximum resolution that you have in your video settings? If it's not 1920 x 1080 then you really can't fill up your display. Maybe try powerstrip? Anyone else have any ideas?
"The emergence of a single, high-definition format is cause for consumers, as well as the entire entertainment industry, to celebrate."
-Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Home Entertainment Feb 19, 2008
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