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Minion
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11. December 2003 @ 21:05 |
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Hi, If you are Captureing Video to a High Quality AVI format Like HuffYUV then that is only about 10-15 minutes of Video...If you Capture directly to Mpeg1 VCD with a Mpeg Capture Program then you will have plenty of Space But you will also have Terrorable Quality...You Should Upgrade to XP because your OS is Basicly 6 Years old and Less and Less Software is going to be 98 Compatible...And because of the File Size Limitations you are Going to have a Really tough time of it....well good Luck
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gcchaser
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13. December 2003 @ 14:31 |
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I'm upgrading to XP asap. My next question is capture devices. I've looked at Hauppauge TV FM, WinTV 2000 xp deluxe, and canopus DV 50 with firewire card. Realizing that my immediate goal is to capture my hi8 and vhs video to AVI files to edit prior to converting to MPEG1 or MPEG2 for authoring and burning, which capture device offers the best options and results in your opinion? Which would you choose?
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mbanx
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13. December 2003 @ 14:44 |
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Hey Minion I think one of your replys said that cutting out commercials was not really editing. Well I was wondering what kind of editing you are talking about? And why is AVI better for editing. Just what all can you do with this software?
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Minion
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13. December 2003 @ 16:19 |
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Any altering of the Length or any Cutting or Joining IS Editing..So cutting comericals out of a File IS Editing if you believe it or Not...The Proper Way to edit(Cut/Join) Mpeg files is to use a Proper Mpeg editor because Proper Mpeg editors edit the Mpeg files Losslessly..These Kind of Editors will Usually Only Cut and Paste and Join Mpeg files without actually Changeing the Video Properties, Meaning you Can not Do Color Correction or Change the Resolution or Frame Rate or add Effects to the Mpeg files, but there is also Absolutely no Quality Loss either.These Kind of editors Will Only work with Mpeg files so you can Not Mix AVI file to the Mpeg files useing these Types of Editors...There are also AVI editors that work on the Same Principal ,They will Cut and Join and Merge and do basicly the same things as the Mpeg editor but also have the same Limitations..One of these Editors is "Virtual Dub" when used in "Direct Stream copy" Mode..These Types of editors are sometimes called Non-Destructive editors ...The other Types of Editors are editors were you will allmost allways Loose some Quality when working with Compressed AVI formats with a couple of exceptions ,One is the DV Format..You can edit and Render DV Files many Times without Looseing Quality, But there is a Limit of Course, The Other Exception is if you are useing Uncompressed AVI or a Lossless codec Like HuffyUV then with these you can render over and over without any Quality Loss unless you are converting colorspaces but that is another Story....So AVI is Better for editing because you Can edit(Cut/Join) and add effects and Transitions then Render to a Lossless AVI format Like Uncompressed AVI or HuffYUV without any Quality Loss, But if you Tried Edit and add Transitions and effects to a Mpeg file then rendered as a Mpeg file you will allways Loose Quality because rendering to Mpeg is very Lossy,But you could render the edited Mpeg file with Transitions and effects to Uncompressed AVI to HuffYUV without Looseing Quality But if you then encoded the AVI to Mpeg then this is were you would loose the Quality....So if you are Trying to Find a format to Capture to then Uncompressed or HuffYUV AVI is Generally Better because there is No loss comeing from the Video signal from your Capture Card to the Captured AVI file and you Can edit and add transitions an such and render to the same Format and have no quality loss ,and then when you encoded the AVI to Mpeg you would Loose some Quality but every one does and there is no way arround it...You Might Say then Why Capture to AVI then encode to Mpeg when I can Just Capture to Mpeg and then Use a Mpeg editor to Cuz and Join the Files and save a Lot of Time and get the same Quality?? The answer is that Standalone software Mpeg encoders are Produce much better Quality encodes than a Mpeg capture Program can...Well I hope I Explained it so it was semi understandable, and hopefull it answers some of your Questions....Cheers
gcchaser: If I were you I would definately go for the "Canopus ADVC-50" it totally avoids the Problems you get from captureing from analoge from an analogue device like a TV Card.
It is definately the Very Best Bet for analogue to Digital...Here are a Few Reasons why it is Much better, Firstly the ADVC-50 Loack the Audio and Video together so there is Never any Sync Problems which you will have to deal with when captureing from a TV Card...
The ADVC-50 Captures directly to DV AVI format which Can allmost Losslessy Be edited and edited over again and easilly encoded to Mpeg..Plus you can use it to capture from Most Editing Programs Like Premier and Vegas Video and Ulead and Many Many More..I have heard Nothing But Rave reviews from the ADVC-100/50..
It will be my Next Capture device and I have owned Lots...Cheers
PS: Stay away from Hauppague I have had a Couple of there Cards and had nothing But Problems....
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gcchaser
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13. December 2003 @ 20:35 |
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Minion..thanks for the canopus preference. I will need a good firewire card, I see some are not compatible. Any preferences regarding firewire cards? I saw the canopus advc 50 for $139 and the advc 100 for $199 on an Educational web site thats a great price. And I think that was free shipping and no sales tax. How does the advc 50 link internally with a firewire card? Know anything about the canopus advc 1394 combined card? I like the idea of internal devices vs external like the advc 100. What are the advantages of the advc 100 in your mind and what is the value of the extra outputs?
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Minion
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14. December 2003 @ 14:06 |
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I have never owned one of these Cards so I don"t know everything about it But I do have a Friend who has the ADVC-100 and I have seen what it can do and have Played with it a bit and that is were I got most of my Knowlege about this Device...I believe the ADVC-50 Links to the Firewire card Like this, you hook your Analoge source into the ADVC-50 Input and then there is a Firewire Output from the ADVC-50 that you hook into the Firewire Card...The advantages from the ADVC-100 over the ADVC-50 is that you save a PCI slot with the 100 and the extra Outputs allow you to record to a VCR or to a Digital camcorder or even a standalone DVD recorder..Another advantage is that the 100 has a way to disable the Macrovision detection which is handy when captureing from Protected VHS Tapes or even DVD"s from a DVD Player..As For Firewire cards I delieve most Cards that are especially For DV Capture should work well..If you are Liiking for a High end firewire card then something like the "Canopus DV Raptor" Card would be best but they are a Bit Pricey, I have seen them for about $75 but I believe you can Probably get away with Useing any Firewire card that is For DV Capture and Some can be Found for under $20 on e-bay...well I hope this answer a couple Questions...Cheers
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gcchaser
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14. December 2003 @ 14:49 |
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Minion..Thanks for the info. Where can I find good info on editing. I have many videos of my kids, some with 20 to 30 min of diferent kids doing different things. I would like to capture all my segments of one child and put then together on a VCD or DVD like a history of them growing up. can you make a file on a specific topic from different sources then edit it and burn to a disc?
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Praetor
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15. December 2003 @ 02:52 |
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4gb is how much actual time on a VCD?
About 450 Minutes.
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And why is AVI better for editing.
Because AVI files are LOT more flexible than MPEGs. MPEGs were designed to allow for playback on standalones which have exacting standards etc but AVIs are for computer playback mostly and can be anything you please
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PS: Stay away from Hauppague I have had a Couple of there Cards and had nothing But Problems....
I Second that.
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Where can I find good info on editing.
DivX/Xvid and the General Video Discussion threads should probably suit ya :-) Now if you are intending to burn DVDs then a thread has just been setup for that functionality. Visit http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/57227
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can you make a file on a specific topic from different sources then edit it and burn to a disc?
You can always make one but the 'seemlessnaess' of it all will depend on your ability to mix-and-match (i.e., Premier/VDub) as well as your ability to shoot :-)
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Ryan32us
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15. December 2003 @ 16:03 |
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Did you find any solution to the white banding/rectangulars banding showing up on the captured video ? I am having the same problem with a MSI ti4800se vtd card...
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nograde1
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17. December 2003 @ 09:26 |
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Does anyone use VDUB? What does it do. Has anyone used Roxio Movie Creator?
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mbanx
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17. December 2003 @ 13:36 |
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I have the tv 2000 xp and i cant seem to get my audio and video in sync when going from VHS to my computer. I really have not messed with the caputre settings since I am not really sure what they do yet. Any beginners tips would be appreciated
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Minion
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17. December 2003 @ 16:39 |
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Sync Problems when captureing Analogue Video are usually from one of 2 things, The First is Dropped Frames and the Second and what is usually the problem if you have not dropped any frames is the Time Lag between your Video capture Clock and your Audio Capture Clock....
You Capture Card Has a Sort of Built in Clock and it captures the Video useing that clock to keep Time..
And your Sound Card also has a Clock so it can keep Time when captureing the audio but the Problem comes in because these 2 Clocks rarely keep time exactly the same so over a period of time they Drift apart, It isn"t Much Like maybe a second per hour but that second differance is very Noticeable after a couple hours of Captureing..The Culprit more Often than not is a Crappy Sound Card like Sound that is integrated on to the MotherBoard will usually keep Bad Time but even a Good Sound card will still drift after a while...So the Best solution after getting a good sound card is to use Capture software that has a Feature to Correct for this Time Lag..Most Capture Software that can compensate for this time Lag either Dropps Frames and adds Frames to the Video to Keep sync with the Audio which is fine if you are Keeping the Captured File the way it is But as soon as you encode it to mpeg it will Go out of Sync, The other Sync Method Software uses to keep sync which is the best way is to Dynamicly resample the audio by adding or dropping audio Samples to keep sync, this is the best method when haveing to later encode the File to another Format....
So to answer your Question it would have helped if you told us what software you are useing to capture Video cuz How are wee supposed to tell you what setting to change if we don"t even know what software you are useing?? Well anyways If you go into the Capture settings and you see a setting that says something like "Master Stream" then set it to "Video" ,If it is good Software then this should help with the Sync problems but if there is no such setting then you are just going to have to Find other software....Cheers
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DVDkid
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17. December 2003 @ 20:29 |
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Hi everyone I am rather new to this subject.
I was wondering if I could get a basic here's what you need (the best of the best)
I currently have:
ATI All-in-wonder 9000
AMD Athelon 2600+
111gb HD w/ 56.7gb to spare
4x DVD-burner
What I was wondering what would be the best method for delivering the highest quality video?
Once I have the raw high quality video, what program is the best for inserting transitions, cutting out static video and creating chapters that i can "NEXT>" to on my stand-alone DVD player.
I am currently using Pinnacle Studio v.8 for video capture, editing and burning---it sucks.
I would prefer to fit one hour of quality video per 4.7(4.36gb) DVD-R disk
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mbanx
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18. December 2003 @ 03:10 |
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I am using the Winfast PVR software for capturing which is probably my first mistake it seems like the software that comes with the hardware never is very good. I tried a version of Virtual Dub but could not capture at 720x480 so went with what would work. I don't know what other software is out there much less know how to use it. I read all of Minion's posts and scratch my head because I dont know what he is talking about, I am trying to very much though. Getting good software seems to be the first step so if someone tells me I will get it. By the way my audio and video are way off as soon as I start capturing. My sound card is a Creative Sound Blaster, not sure how good it is I pulled it out of a computer laying around. I would like to know more about this Dynamic Resampling.
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Minion
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18. December 2003 @ 20:07 |
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I believe "Virtual VCR" uses Dynamic Resampling when trying to keep sync, but only when you set the "Video" as the "Master Stream".
If you choose Audio as the Master stream then it try"s Keeping synk by adding or Dropping frames from the Video ,which in Turn changes the Fram Rate which causes sync problem if you try to convert this File to another Format Like Mpeg...Cheers
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19. December 2003 @ 21:59 |
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I am currently (trying to) using WinDVR for my mpeg capture. Under the record option in setup, the record quality is set on NTSC-DVD. This setting only has a total bitrate of 7878 KBits/sec. In an earlier reply minion had said for a good mpeg burn he recommended winDVR and to record at a very high bitrate of 20,000 or so...only problem is that even where I try to edit the bitrate, the highest it will let me go is 9000 kbits/se. Does my system not allow higher or am I doing something wrong?
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mbanx
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23. December 2003 @ 13:22 |
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Well I have made it to the authoring part and have some trouble. I am using DVD Lab and I went in did my chapters and menus everything seemed to be fine. When I hit compile it finishes in like 10 secs. and makes a Video & Audio TS folders but there is nothing in them. I tried the Demux route first and my audio was flagged it is PCM 48000 my video seems alright it is MPeg2. I tried using Main Concept for the speed and it went fine. My size is larger than 4.7 but I thought I would use DVD2One after I authored it. I have tried not seperating the audio and video in DVD lab but like I said something goes wrong with the compile part. Any ideas.
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Minion
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23. December 2003 @ 16:07 |
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DVDKid: To Capture with WinDVR at 20,000kbs you have to choose "Mpeg2 Genaric" as the Mpeg type Not "Mpeg2 DVD"....
mbanx: I don"t have a Clue why there are no Files in your Video_TS folder, I have never had that Problem, You can allways try something else...
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mbanx
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24. December 2003 @ 12:20 |
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In DVD lab i demuxed my file and now have a .mpv file I cannot view is there something I can get for this so I can insert chapters?
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Minion
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24. December 2003 @ 15:59 |
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Well The Chapters Have to be inserted By your DVD authoring program so the only way to add chapters if for some reason DVD=Lab is haveing problems is to use a Different DVD authoring program...You can Try "Tmpgenc DVD author" it is Very easy to use...Have you Tried demuxing your Mpeg files before Loading into DVD Lab instead of Letting DVD-Lab to do it??? You can use Tmpgenc"s Mpeg Tools to Demux the Mpeg file before Authoring......Good Luck
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gcchaser
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31. December 2003 @ 07:19 |
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Minion, happy new year, I am installing a new dvd burner pioneer dvr ao6 which comes with a Ulead software suite of programs and Nero. Are these of any value or should I pass on installing them? I also have an existing dvd drive which runs off of a ATI dvd program. Is there any reason to keep it in my system? I was considering just swapping out the units and using the same bay and cables. I am installing the canopus advc 50 as well (when it arrives) so my system bays will be maxed and I am concerned about having enough available cables.
Your thoughts..gcchaser
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Minion
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31. December 2003 @ 11:33 |
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Hi, and Happy New Year to you also...Cool you are getting a DVD Burner ,Is your Other DVD Drive a DVD Burner or a DVD-Rom?? If it is a DVD-Rom then I would Keep it in the PC and Use it for Reading Disks and Ripping DVD"s and you can just use the Burner for Burning cuz This will extend the Life of your Burner Pluss DVD-Rom Drives have a Faster CD/DVD Read speed than Burners...You should Put Both DVD Drives on the Second IDE port and your Hardrives on the First IDE Port and I wouldn"t worry about not haveing enough Cables because your Burner should come with an IDE Cable Pluss you can Hold up to 4 Drives on a Normal PC, 2 CD/DVD and 2 Hard drives...Well if your Burner comes with Nero6 then I would keep it for Burning CD"s and DVD Folders and as for the Ulead Software I guess it depends on what software they give you...Most of the ULEAD DVD Authoring Programs are Very Low End Consumer oriented Programs and do not support such simple things as Dolby digital audio and Importing in seperate audio and Video Tracks which Makes then Very limited in what you can do with them and the Ulead encoder Produces very Marginal results compared to other high end Mpeg encoders on the Market..So you are getting the ADVC-50 also?? Cool I wish I could afford one right now, You will also need a Firewire Input becides a PCI Slot for the ADVC-50 so I hope you have enough PCI Slots and a Strong enough Power Supply...Well when you get it let me Know how it works out and Have a Good One....Cheers
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machie
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3. January 2004 @ 19:48 |
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I thought it would be a simple task to copy/backup my old VHS movies to DVD but after reading through the forums, I am losing confidence. I thought I could simply copy them to my hard drive using All In Wonder 9000 Pro & then burn to dvd. Isn't there a program available that will burn a movie from my hard drive to dvd? I have Roxio DVD Creator, which works great with editing my home movies from 8mm camcorder tapes, but it doesn't do well with a movie-length file from VHS(audio out of sync/video dropped frames). I have copied movies from TV to hard drive (as mpeg), but when I try to put them on DVD, they will play on my PC dvd rom, but I get an "invalid disk" error when I try to play them on the stand alone player. Obviously, I am clueless about this type of project & I am not a technical person so I am more than a little confused about the processes described in this forum. What do I need yet to copy to dvd from vhs or hard drive, or what am I doing wrong? My system: Athlon XP 2500+, 1.46 Ghz, 512 RAM, Lite-On 16x dvd rom, TDK DVDRW4040N, ATI A-I-W Radeon 9000 Pro 64M, 114G hard drive with 87G free. Thanks for any suggestions.
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4. January 2004 @ 01:50 |
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Yeah, I know what you mean, machie. I'm wondering if I'll be able to transfer my tapes, but I will keep reading and learning and getting the right hardware :)
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4. January 2004 @ 04:03 |
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> I thought it would be a simple task to copy/backup
> my old VHS movies to DVD but after reading through
> the forums, I am losing confidence.
There's really only one simple, fool-proof, one-button-press way to move tapes to DVD and that's a stand alone DVD recorder (along with a macrovision removing cable or device). Anything else takes commitment, the right equipment, and a thorough understanding of all the processes involved.
It all depends on whether you find this stuff fun to do for its own sake. If not, I suggest you get a recorder (and macrovision buster). It'll save you a lot of headaches in the long run.
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