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tr100
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10. March 2004 @ 15:10 |
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Thanks very much.
Any suggestions of a better-than-average capture device? I am using a Dazzle 150 now but have seen several others.
As far as software, I may be able to get a free copy of the new Pinnical9....my main need, really, is simply encoding the captured file to an .rm or .wmv file.
I have noticed that the free encoding software from Microsoft and Realplayer will capture from a compatible device (of which the Dazzle products are not).
Is it better to use the actual MS or Real software to do the capture/encoding (if I really do not need to do editing) and a good hardware capture device rather than the the software that is bundled with whatever capture hardware I use?
Thanks Much!
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SierraB
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11. March 2004 @ 07:43 |
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Heres a new one. I capture to AVI format and it sems to be working but when I replay it it's all garbled...like colorful machine code. ?????/
If I capture to any other format or compressed format like wmv everything is good.
I'm using a Canopus 100 and I've got a pretty goos system (1.6ghz, 64mb graphics, 512mb ddr)
Am I looney or shouldn't I be able to view an AVI file through Windows Movie Maker, Real One, Sonic, etc.???
Any input would help.
Thanks
Brad
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joeyjoey
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13. March 2004 @ 17:17 |
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Minion, you should write a book. I'd buy it.
I've been reading everything I can find, but one thing that cannot be answered with words is what "high quality" means regarding analog video capture (well, I suppose it would be possible, but the words might not mean much to me). Are some of you capturing video from VHS tapes that is indistinguishable from the original? It would be very helpful to me if there was just one clip out there that could be downloaded for comparison. Anyone have one to offer?
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Minion
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14. March 2004 @ 00:56 |
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Hi, I suppose Good quality allways depends on the quality of the source because you can never get better than the original but you can get pretty Close and useing some filters on the Video after captureing you can sometimes clean up the video so it looks a Bit better...You can Get close to DVD Quality doing analoguie Capture from Satalite or Digital cable or even Just a Good Strong Cable Signal if you have a good enough capture device..VHS Resolution is about that of VCD (352+240)so it will never be that High Quality But Satalite and Digital cable are transmited in the same resolution as DVD(720+480) so you can get Much better quality captures...Cheers
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fugitive2
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14. March 2004 @ 02:15 |
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I guess to get best quality, you should have a good
VHS recorder/player Super-VHS is even better,
and also, one that has a TBC (Time Base Corrector)
to "clean up" old tapes, due to "drop outs" caused
by dust, damage, or magnetic fields, sometimes a
"drop out" is in the sync part of your tape, if
possible, TBC corrects this, and also "cares" you
have a stablelized sync signal, during, playing
your vhs tape.
There are also "standalone" TBC's, you can place
between your VCR, and capture device.
Bedankt, Thanks,
Fugitive.
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mbanx
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14. March 2004 @ 02:27 |
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Minion you should write a book you have a lot of valuble knowledge and I too would buy it. My question is how to avoid my picture becoming pixelated ( I think that is the term I want). I have tried to create an epsiode DVD and compressed the files with DVD2One which I think was my problem. I have capped at full 720x480 ran it through a few filters and it looks good on my computer screen. Should I just leave it alone? I want a good picutre when I view it on a larger tv screen.
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Minion
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14. March 2004 @ 12:17 |
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Well DVD2One doesn"t have the Best Compression Engine and you can get a Blocky Picture if you use it on a DVD that is Over say 2 hours I have never used these types of programs to compress Captured Files but I"m sure they don"t produce the best Results...You say you Captured at 720+480 and it looks good on your Monitor, If the file Is in the correct format for DVD and will Fit on a DVD then go ahead and author it to DVD, If you have to encode the File because it is too big to fit on a DVD-r or it isn"t in the Correct format then make sure you use a High quality Mpeg encoder and calculate the bitrate you will need before you encode so you can Maximize the space on the DVD-R........Cheers
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joeyjoey
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14. March 2004 @ 22:25 |
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Hmmm... well, I was hoping to do this without too much of an investment, but maybe that just isn't possible. I know there are a number of posts like this, but what I really need to know then is where the bottleneck is in my system. The VHS quality is excellent, so that's not the problem, and I'm not trying to copy anything that's Macrovision protected so that's not a problem either.
My system has a 2500+ Barton core (on a DFI LanParty NFII Ultra MB), and an MSI VTDR128 GC. I have a Seagate 120GB barracuda SATA HD (that's the only HD, and I'm a little afraid to defrag since that's always caused problems for me in the past).
I try to capture straight from the gc (s-video, composite both), and the various software I've tried include Intervideo Winproducer, Roxio DVD6, NeroVision, and the MSI Media Center Dlx II package. I've tried AVI, mpg, AVI DV I, and AVI DVII; good quality, best quality, 720:480 and lower. The AVI and mpg are barely watchable, imo, though they at least have an acceptable framerate; the AVI dv's have miserable framerates. Pixelation is pretty bad all around.
It just occurred to me that I could also try disabling the 2nd monitor, but I wouldn't think that was taxing the system too much. The video feed appears excellent on the monitor, just doesn't capture well.
If anyone is willing to respond to this you have my sincere thanks. What this all boils down to is whether I'm getting the results I should expect from my system, or if I was just expecting more than my system can deliver. I realize that the capture quality cannot really surpass the original, but what I'm getting now is nothing I would consider saving.
This is way off top topic, but is there a way to "capture" the digital video stream from satellite and use that instead of analog capture? Perhaps I'll post that somewhere else.
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fugitive2
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15. March 2004 @ 07:13 |
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joeyjoey, my guess is you have your resolution
settings not correct set, because you should get a
decent capture, to start with..
maybe it helps, to install your capture software again, and check what the default settings are,
most of the time you don't have to change much of
these settings.
Bedankt, Thanks,
Fugitive.
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nograde1
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15. March 2004 @ 07:20 |
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if you are trying to capture in .avi format I would use virtualvcr or vdub with the huppyuv codec. then import into another program as necessary. the captures are large but very clean.................oh, and these programs are free!
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Pierino
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20. March 2004 @ 14:59 |
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DVD bad (?) tracks ?
I have a 9G DVD w/ a movie I would like to copy.
Problem is: it gets to an area on the DVD and the ripping (I have tried several w/ same result) announces Cannot read ...I believe it says track or sector.
If I press "Retry" at times it will go past the sector but right after stops again .. but then retry will go nowhere and I force to abort the operation.
Now .. when I play the DVD in a standalone or dvd rom ALL IS FINE. I think the players can acomodate frame dropping and is no big deal, but rippers cannot NOT read a sector. Is there a way to tell a ripper to just forget about what you cannot read and keep going ? Or any other way to get around the problem ..
I Thank you for any reply
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Minion
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20. March 2004 @ 15:40 |
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I have come across a few dammaged DVD"s that have had this Problem and I solved the Problems a couple different ways ...I have a DVD Burner and a DVD-Rom drive and My DVD-Rom is a faster drive so I use it most often for ripping but it seems to pick up errors in the Disk a Lot more But my DVD Burner which only rips at 2X speed doesn"t read the errors, So if you have 2 DVD drives try useing the other Drive...And DVD Decryptor will give you the option to Retry or Ignore the error but if you Ignore the error there will be an error in the Ripped VOB File and Most often than not you will have more than one Bad sector on the Disk so you will have to deal with more than one Error...There are Programs for extracting files off of Dammaged DVD"s Like "DVD X Rescue" or "Bad Copy Pro" both of which will add Zero"s instead of copy the Bad sector so the File will not have any Corruption in it but will have a Glitch were the error is...well good Luck
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Franknca
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21. March 2004 @ 14:00 |
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I purchased a Sony VAIO RZ54G that seems fully equipped to copy the old home vidoes that I have. These are very old and originally were Super 8 movies that were converted to tape, so you can imagine the quality. 3 different types of software were included in my package for capturing video; DVgate Plus, Adobe Premier LE and Click to DVD. The latter seems to be the only one capable of capturing the VHS video using the red, white and yellow video cables. One has to make it look like they are recording live TV to get this capture. Although a lengthy process, I was able to capture, edit and cut a DVD of this tape that plays on the DVD connected to my TV.
On my attempt with my second VHS tape, in the middle of editing, I got an error message that the program had to close and lost everything. Someone informed me that Click to DVD might be unstable software as my 3.2 GHz P4 with 512 MB RAM and 200 GB HD was more than sufficient. They especially said this because the VHS tape capture ended up being in RealMedia format that I had to import into Click to DVD to then edit and burn the DVD.
After that long story, would you know if there is a better way to use what came with this PC system which has Windows XP Media? Being a novice, I may not realize everything but the other two software packages only captured using some kind of IEEE iLink cable which I think is more for camcorders.
I had everything else shut down while editing when this program crash occurred. Is my only recourse to get better software? I purchased this package as I thought it had everything I needed to accomplish this conversion of old VHS tapes to CDs as I was concerned with these older tapes becoming bad. Any advice?
Frank-in-CA
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nograde1
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23. March 2004 @ 09:14 |
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minion - when using virtualVCR with HuffyUV is there a best fps capture setting? Is 30fps too high?
gracias
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Minion
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23. March 2004 @ 11:29 |
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If you are Captureing your Files are are going to put them on VCD/SVCD or DVD then you should capture at 29.976fps for NTSC and 25fps for PAL....Cheers
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DVDTD
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24. March 2004 @ 05:05 |
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I am a novice at all this so any help would be appreciated.
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I have backed up a movie onto my hard drive. The file properties in Media Play show it as 4.5 GB. When I went to convert it to DVD in a SONIC program I got a message that said "File Too Large - Will Not Fit On Disk". I think I read somewhere that there is a difference between file size and DVD listed GB. The DVD disk is a standard 4.7 GB. I prefer not to record the movie again with a lesser quality setting since it is a time consuming process.
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Any suggestions?
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My computer Has "Media Center" installed as well as "MicroSoft Music Maker".
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DVDTD
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Franknca
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24. March 2004 @ 06:37 |
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I'm a newbie too and when I cut my first DVD, I got that message. It also gave me the option of making the cut at a level of less quality. I had gone that far so I said OK. I didn't notice any difference in the results. Try it and see what happens.
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Minion
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24. March 2004 @ 10:54 |
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DVDTD:A DVD-R actually holds 4.38gb not 4.7 as they state ,It will Hold 4700KB which isn"t 4.7gb but 4.38gb ,This is just the creative math that Disk manufacturers use, they also use this Creative math with Hard drives....If you can maybe you can try to cut the Credits off the end of the movie and maybe that will make the File small enough to fit on a DVD-R...What format are you captureing to?? If you are Captureing to Mpeg2 then SONIC should NOT be doing any Converting of your File because Mpeg2 is allready the correct format for DVD so there is no need to further converting, so if it is Takeing more than say 30 minutes for the SONIC Program to format your Menu"s and Chapters and Mpeg2 file into a Video_TS Folder then you can be sure that it is re-encodeing your File in which case you are looseing a Lot of Quality, If this is the case you should use a Different DVD Authoring Program Like DVD-Lab which doesn"t even come with an encoder so there is no chance it will re-encode your File and it will let you cut the credits off the end of the file so you can Make it fit on a DVD-R....Good Luck
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Dameem2
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24. March 2004 @ 15:15 |
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I have no problem copying home made VHS tapes to DVD's on my Sony Vaio. The problem I have is trying to copy a copywrite protected VHS tape to DVD. I get the message that it's protected and won't allow me to make a copy. Anyone know a way around this for VHS tapes? I use xcopy to copy DVD to DVD, but it's no help for this.
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Minion
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24. March 2004 @ 15:29 |
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What you need for copying Copy Protected VHS Tapes is a Video Stabilizer that will remove the Macrovision Copy Protection...You can get a cheap one that will work Just Fine for VHS Tapes for about $20 to $30 and can be found in most Big electronics stores or On Line like on Ebay..They are Just a Small Box with a 9v Battery in it that you Connect in between your VCR and your Capture device.....Cheers
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DVDTD
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26. March 2004 @ 06:05 |
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Thanks Minion,
(REF: your reply of 24 March 2004 15:54)
I am capturing the video through my MS "Media Center". I record the VHS directly from the VCR through "Media Center". It goes to a file called "Recorded TV" and appears as file in the hard drive directory with a "Media Player" symbol. The properties show it as a dvdr-ms file.
I tried opening the file of the recorded VHS with "Movie Maker" in an attempt to truncate the beginning and end of the file to shorten it up. "Movie Maker" doesn't support a dvdr-ms file so I was not successful. The file size is 5.0 GB and I think that I should be able to shorten it up as you suggested. I have done this with audio files by going into the wave file (.wav) with freeware such as "Wave Repair" and cutting out the undesired portions of the file - I was hoping that I could do the same here. Do you know of any video program (free ware or otherwise) that is available accepts dvdr-ms? I also tried "DVD Shrink" but it would not accept it - if I could get it into the right format for "DVD Shrink", I think it would work - if so, I would do all future VHS copying at the highest quality setting then shrink onto DVD-R with "DVD Shrink".
Thanks for your help.
DVDTD
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26. March 2004 @ 08:36 |
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Correction to post above:
Media Center uses a new file format called DVR-MS. DVR-MS is an MPEG-2 file that includes metadata about the recorded program to be stored.
Thanks Minion,
(REF: your reply of 24 March 2004 15:54)
I am capturing the video through my MS "Media Center". I record the VHS directly from the VCR through "Media Center". It goes to a file called "Recorded TV" and appears as a file in the hard drive directory with a "Media Player" symbol. The properties show it as a DVR-MS (not dvdr-ms) file.
I tried opening the file of the recorded VHS with "Movie Maker" in an attempt to truncate the beginning and end of the file to shorten it up. "Movie Maker" doesn't support a DVR-MS (not dvdr-ms) file so I was not successful. The file size is 5.0 GB and I think that I should be able to shorten it up as you suggested. I have done this with audio files by going into the wave file (.wav) with freeware such as "Wave Repair" and cutting out the undesired portions of the file - I was hoping that I could do the same here. Do you know of any video program (free ware or otherwise) that is available that accepts DVR-MS? I also tried "DVD Shrink" but it would not accept it - if I could get it into the right format for "DVD Shrink", I think it would work - if so, I would do all future VHS copying at the highest quality setting then shrink onto DVD-R with "DVD Shrink".
Thanks for your help.
DVDTD
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Sam42
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26. March 2004 @ 09:39 |
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Thanks for the input. Could you post the download site for "wave repair"?
Sam42
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26. March 2004 @ 10:08 |
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Minion
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26. March 2004 @ 12:52 |
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For editing Mpeg2 files I use "Mpeg2VCR 3.14" or the "Mpeg Video Wizard" which are Both made by the Same Company..These editors are Frame accurate non-destructive editors that will edit Mpeg1/2 VOB and any other Mpeg 1/2 format and it will also handle AC3 audio in Mpeg files and the Editing is Non-destructive which means there is no Quality Loss when editing and the editing is extremely Fast, You can even add Transitions and some effects to the Video useing these editors..Mpeg2VCR is a More Basic editor with some simple Transitions but the Mpeg video wizard is more of a Full features editor were you can edit useing a Multi-Track timeline View..These editors aren"t Freeware as I do not know of any Good Freeware Mpeg editors....Cheers
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