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The RIAA wants to make CD ripping illegal
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article published on 30 December, 2007
In the latest RIAA lawsuit against a P2P file sharer, some new, disturbing facts have come to light. It turns out the RIAA wants to make CD ripping, the act of copying music from a legally purchased CD to your PC, illegal.
Jeffrey Howell, an Arizona man accused of keeping a 2000 song collection on his computer, is accused of keeping "unauthorized copies of copyrighted recordings", music ... [ read the full article ]
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vinny13
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31. December 2007 @ 02:43 |
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Ya uhh, I don't think so.
Bastards. Go die. Make the world a better place.
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31. December 2007 @ 03:40 |
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I think it's funny how with each passing day and lawsuit, you keep hearing reports of CD sales dropping, piracy rising...
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eiamhere
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31. December 2007 @ 03:46 |
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This must be their new business model.
They realised to late that new technology was coming (previously been to busy spending all their time sueing innocent people.
Now they will pay a few hundred thousand (possible few million) to bribe corrupt politicians and judges, then reap the reward as people have to purchase all of their legally purchased material (video also)to play back on this new technology.
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chinpark9
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31. December 2007 @ 03:58 |
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Hey, Kraut1, they used to make some damn fine violins down your way. To refine my point, if there is any point in it, Personally, I do not buy any CDs anymore. If an artist comes along with a new work and is willing to sell it to me, then the chances are, I'll buy it.But not through any system that takes my money and then tells me what I can or cannot do, with the product I have bought. But that is a personal thing. If you are willing to cringe and moan and then run to the shops, well.....
Don't do anything. You may have heard the story that finishes " And then they came for me, and there was no one left to care"
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31. December 2007 @ 04:40 |
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Quite frankly, I wouldn't mind paying for a CD if all the money went to the artist. As a matter of fact, prices would probably be cheaper because they would not have the inflation fees to organizations like the RIAA and then fees to other random stuff. You would be paying for the disk itself with the audio recorded to it. You wouldn't be paying for the RIAA to sue everyone, you wouldn't be paying for shipping to the retail stores, etc. You would be paying for the disk, the audio recorded to it, and the shipping for it direct from the artist to your home. I would be willing to bet that prices would be under $5 a CD. After all, if the artist isn't greedy, they have more that paid for all the equipment used to make that CD after some 5 or 10 thousand sales. And when the actual number of customers is well over that, the artist can sell those CDs dirt cheap and still turn a massive profit.
/End rant of how cheap stuff would be without the corporate leeches
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31. December 2007 @ 05:35 |
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I decided it must be a case of although it's illegal on the statute books, everybody recognises how absurd it is including the Police and turns a blind eye
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nobrainer
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31. December 2007 @ 06:14 |
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Sony (Who Are The RIAA) have already stated that ripping CD's is stealing and are continuing to DRM everything under the sun which is why they are the only company still using DRM on their downloaded songs when all other RIAA members have dropped it.
Sony are the driving force behind DRM in the RIAA and have more pro draconian IP law lobbyists than all the other companies put together!
Originally posted by me me its all me:
re: sony evil, sony, disney and fox are the leading companies pushing propertarian, orwellian, anti consumer DRM lockouts and have the most lobbyists pushing congress to tighten the IP laws (DMCA), abolish fair use, criminalise ppl that use or even own software to circumnavigate any form of DRM and protect them from law suits when they run code on ppl's computers that cause damage and threaten your privacy by reporting information back to sony HQ about your computer usage (google: sony xcp).
sony, disney and fox are the MPAA they use piracy to scare monger ppl then make DRM secuROM, xcp and sell it to movie/game/cd makers and get paid from all sides and get fat while its the consumers that lose out as we are told we are pirates by sony for wanting to play our legally purchased cd's on our ipods because sony want 1 licence per device per user to quadruple their profits from each household, kinda like the military industrial complex.
funny look on copywrite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJn_jC4FNDo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKI_w_VBoTQ
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/29/ste...rt.html
Sony BMG's chief anti-piracy lawyer: "Copying" music you own is "stealing"
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/200...s-stealing.html
Originally posted by above link:
Pariser noted that music labels make no money on touring, radio, or merchandise, which leaves the company particularly exposed to the negative effects of file-sharing. "It's my personal belief that Sony BMG is half the size now as it was in 2000," she said, thanks to piracy. In Pariser's view, "when people steal, when they take music without compensation, we are harmed."
Gabriel asked if it was wrong for consumers to make copies of music which they have purchased, even just one copy. Pariser replied, "When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." Making "a copy" of a purchased song is just "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy'," she said.
Warner to sell no-DRM MP3s on Amazon
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/12/27/warner-to-sell-nodrm.html
Originally posted by above link:
Warner Music has announced that it will begin to sell non-DRM'ed MP3 music files on Amazon, making it the third (of four) major labels to sign up for DRM-free distribution of their music, Universal and EMI being the other two. Only Sony BMG have held out -- and that's the same label that gave us the infamous Sony Rootkit, a dangerous hacker-tool that Sony infected millions of PCs with in a failed bid to prevent copying of its music.
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cousinkix
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31. December 2007 @ 06:14 |
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F--K the RIAA! Their member record company member SONY, is one of the world's biggest sellers of blank CDs and CD burners. Most of us have no need for a machine that can burn 6 bootleg copies at once. SONY sells these on the internet too, and nobody must prove that they have a legitimate need to have one either.
SONY's hardware can be used to pirate the copyrighyted works of the three other RIAA labels; but they would rather harass the little people. My niece has a SONY DVD burner on her computer. There is nothing like using SONY's own equipment, to make illegal back up copies of their HOLLYWOOD movies.
The SONY big shots are no better than a crooked drug dealing cop. Let the RIAA clean up their own house. Any company that sells hardware (used by the thieves) should be expelled from their elite club of hypocrites...
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M1ckran
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31. December 2007 @ 06:34 |
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I have a Sony Minidic recorder (quite old but superb)and Sony's instructions show me how to copy my CD's onto minidisc, using both analogue and digital transfer techniques.
Would Sony's own documentation be a good legal defence?
If not, then Sony could also be sued for not only providing the means, but actively encouraging the defendant. Perhaps, also, there could be charges of fraudulently selling recording machines that cannot be used?
Odd ain't it?
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ali2007
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31. December 2007 @ 06:51 |
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this is absurd you know ,the more you play cd the more scratches you create and decrease it's life expentancy so what do you think people have to buy the same cd every year , i think RIAA wants to have consumer pay more , i think they work hand in hand with big companies
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Sazaziel
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31. December 2007 @ 07:20 |
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WTF is this world coming to. So I guess that now when people buy cd's we are just borrowing the songs. Pretty soon we will be agreeing to EULA's on music cd's! This is a pretty fucked up move because whatever I spend my hard earned dollar on I consider it mine to do whatever I want. If you ask me people finally need to set aside differences and cease movements like the RIAA. The recording industry along with others fail to realize that it is the people who created them and it is the people who can take them down. People need to quit acting like they actually need to listen to a cd or some music right away and straight boycott the purchasing of music cds for about a year and watch none of the artist make a dime. That is when the real impact can be felt. If the RIAA wants to play this game to dig into the pockets of the working class then I advise that we spread the word an do the same to them. If they want to pull these kind of bullshit antics then I'd rather listen to the radio. It's even worse for the government to get involved in these battles because people are becoming afraid to do anything about these issues in fear of being jailed and paying hefty fines. The people are supposed to run and control its own government. I really don't know if its possible for me to say this but since we aren't taking a stand to do anything about it then we are bringing unlawful and unconstitutional things like this amongst ourselves.
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31. December 2007 @ 08:06 |
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The next thing you know, they (RIAA) will want you to send in a payment each time you play the song. That will be their next move if allowed to continue the way they are going.
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31. December 2007 @ 08:17 |
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Originally posted by mspurloc:
This is their strategy.
Use the arbitrary nature of our corrupt and incompetent legal system to expand their power to Hitler-like proportions, while bankrupting honest people with junk lawsuits rubber-stamped by the crooked circuit judges and clueless Hollywood-sucking politicos that they've bought.
The RIAA is made up of lying, thieving, arrogant, elitist, subhuman filth.
I could not Agree With you more!
I have 350 CD's on my HD and thoes same 350 CD's are on my IPOD as well...The RIAA is Out of there BLANKING Minds if they think I am going to pay for a copy of the CD's for each dvice.
I paid for the CD's ..I am not uploading them they are for my use only and I will do with them what I please.
I Say we all meet at there head office and Tear it down Brick By Brick!
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31. December 2007 @ 08:45 |
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This is beyond pathetic. To say that ripping a legally purchased cd onto a computer with no thought or intetion on distributing that material is wrong and a violation of piracy laws? Huh. I don't think so.
I paid the inflated price for that album. That copy is mine. Ripping it to my pc so i can put it on my Zune, or mix some songs up and burning them to a cd, or just to have playing on the pc whilst i'm working, is perfectly legal.
There goes the RIAA overstepping their bounds once again.
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31. December 2007 @ 09:06 |
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Originally posted by little155:
The next thing you know, they (RIAA) will want you to send in a payment each time you play the song. That will be their next move if allowed to continue the way they are going.
we are gonna get monthly bills, cuz if u paid for a song u can't listen it for a thousand times?? if u exceed a 50 plays u must pay!!
Sony is a big money maker, cuz it's a big company and all their products are way over others, bravia?? genezi?? mu-te-ki? ps2? ps2? blur-ray?
It's bad that a company i used to respect and like supporting this.
all the countries in the world there are a few that actually pay, i live in usa and in peru and i've never known a person in peru who has payed for music, not a single cent , everything is just downloaded from rapid or ares or lime so these is what they should target not the poor american or european who already paid a lot for what they listen and are still being chargedd
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hughjars
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31. December 2007 @ 10:30 |
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The lunatics have taken over the asylum. That's all.
Sadly they are being aided and abetted by weak and/or greedy legislators and the whole 'lawyer industry' as they manipulate what were once sane and respected laws into this bastardised perversion.
Sooner or later as they hurt more and more regular law-abiding people in their never-ending greed there will come a reaction.
Ending this stupidity is easy.
It ends when we start to take control back and begin putting the advisors, lawyers and judiciary that have gone along with this insanity on trial and convict them for abusing the law and give them a few months in the hell-holes that are our prisons.
Sooner or later a 'correction' will come.
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31. December 2007 @ 11:05 |
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If this crap gets passed what are they going to do about all the current companies that make products that support burning what you own. I am certain they will have major problems with this because these other companies will lose some serious amounts of money because of this. Also I feel like this if they find some BS way to ban burning Cd's i will simply use my Ipod and other formats of digital distribution to play back my songs.
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cybnetic
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31. December 2007 @ 11:29 |
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screw these corporate bastards!!!! we can do what we want with our music! everyone needs to rebel!!!!!
of course the best thing to do would be to not buy any music if they insist on being a holes. all it is is greed.
I will never bow to the monopolies
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31. December 2007 @ 12:07 |
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Originally posted by spydah:
If this crap gets passed what are they going to do about all the current companies that make products that support burning what you own. I am certain they will have major problems with this because these other companies will lose some serious amounts of money because of this. Also I feel like this if they find some BS way to ban burning Cd's i will simply use my Ipod and other formats of digital distribution to play back my songs.
They are probably going to remove all references to backing up music from their recordable media and instead advertise how you can back up all of your word documents, excel spreadsheets and family pictures on their CD-R's and DVD-R's.
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31. December 2007 @ 14:26 |
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Fairly soon you wont be able to break wind to an RIAA copyrighted tune on the street without getting a call from their lawyers.
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klassic
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31. December 2007 @ 15:02 |
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Why aren't they suing Microsoft for including Windows Media Player with their OS? One feature of WMP is to rip music from a cd to your computer.
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31. December 2007 @ 15:14 |
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Quote:
Originally posted by mspurloc:
This is their strategy.
Use the arbitrary nature of our corrupt and incompetent legal system to expand their power to Hitler-like proportions, while bankrupting honest people with junk lawsuits rubber-stamped by the crooked circuit judges and clueless Hollywood-sucking politicos that they've bought.
The RIAA is made up of lying, thieving, arrogant, elitist, subhuman filth.
I could not Agree With you more!
I have 350 CD's on my HD and thoes same 350 CD's are on my IPOD as well...The RIAA is Out of there BLANKING Minds if they think I am going to pay for a copy of the CD's for each dvice.
I paid for the CD's ..I am not uploading them they are for my use only and I will do with them what I please.
I Say we all meet at there head office and Tear it down Brick By Brick!
That is defiantly true. For example, I should not have to pay for multiple copies of Vista so I can put it on my multiple computers. I am the only user. (I have not yet upgraded to Vista and are sticking to XP because of this)
Watch, Next the RIAA will say "Music on Radio Illegal because people can record it!"
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chinpark9
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31. December 2007 @ 15:29 |
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Taking the moral high ground is very commendable, Get you nowhere though.
"Action this day", one of our great men said, once, and taking his words seriously, people went about the business of getting rid of those that would have taken from us the little we had.
Really means voting with your feet, out of the shops. Because while we keep up the bitching, they are winning. Winning, I tell you.
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Sazaziel
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31. December 2007 @ 15:33 |
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Watch, Next the RIAA will say "Music on Radio Illegal because people can record it!"
Ummm..... the RIAA is already stating that music on the radio is illegal because people can record it. They have a lawsuit against XM Satellite radio as we speak. They are also trying to bring lawsuits against internet radio stations as well.
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Mez
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31. December 2007 @ 15:36 |
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I am waiting for the new law that says every citizen of the US, excluding the politicians of course, must give a major body part and 20 Grand to RIAA to worship their greatness!
If ripping is stealing and stealing is illegal why do they need a law?
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